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There's the legend of No man's Sky, with Sean Murray leading Hello games, coming out with a huge redemption arc (internet historian). Then, you have whatever this shit show is, with some scamming Chinese dev no one can hold accountable, butt fucking the community and the staff. At least as a member of the pirates, I can laugh at the side line with my trousers, wallet, dignity and butthole intact.
 

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Oh yeah I'm aware of the one 4 days ago, I even made a post here about it, however at one point yesterday there were claims that a new build was being uploaded and then that they were waiting on Steam to process and approve it.

Unfortunately that discussion was on their Steam Forums and all I have now is:
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I presume their Discord has been similarly cleansed unless anybody here screen grabbed anything. If they were waiting on people who missed deadlines etc. a 4 day old depot would also be completely irrelevant.

You can't hide depots in Steam, only set a password. Even for you can see all their test depots and guess when they're likely prepping a patch etc. You can just , but for testing purposes you'd probably want to actually deliver it via Steam. (I stand corrected on this, it still uploads the metadata about the build to Steam).
Yeah, you gotta screen cap things pretty quick and save em, even if you don't think you'll post it at the time or the team will just delete it real quick. A live example from back in time.

BRO LOOK AT THIS,no clown $ Poop emoji :LUL: :LUL: :LUL: :LUL: :LUL:
I'm surprised to see Pasix throw the first tantrum (and even before the launch this time!) considering it was Karb last time by far, though he seems to have realized the advantage of taking space from something. I guess I'm betting 10 funbucks on the next tantrum coming from Miya this time.
 

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okay "so here we go" , this is just minutes ago but this was so funny I had to post it. it's like " haha dumbass you all still waiting?? how about some more :LUL:"
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I didn't need to read it to know what is there. Controlling the crowd by sympathizing with them, expressing that they are on the same side, telling people that they are harmful by continuing what they are doing and that order must be kept for good of all.

Well there is one thing to take away from it - release won't be happening soon so there is no reason to be on alert.
 

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lmao, community literally moderated by snowflakes that go on banning sprees for a reaction emoji. I guess that's what you get when you mix a volunteer staff team with a scamming developer.
I'm not even shocked or anything. This type of fear strategy is used by shitty Early Access indie developers as well. Ban everyone who asks logical questions. Then sorround yourself with people who are happy with everything or too stupid to live.

But I dont think I ever saw anyone intimidating people with bans for using stupid sarcastic emojis. This is so freaking pathetic it deserves wide spreading. " Do not use poo emoji, it hurts my feelings... ". Holy shit, North Korea on discord.
 

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I set poo emoji and was muted for 7 days in discord. lol . and they delite all posts about wave of bans on steam forum.
If there's one thing I'm surprised they didn't learn from the November release it's that community good will going into a divisive release is important, and ban waves don't help that. This backlash is even before a lot of new supporters from the last year are going to get a good look at the micro-transaction fest this has become
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Also, if you are banned on the steam for discussing this, you can open a support ticket with steam itself. Helius mods got Steam disciplined for it before, just make sure to report them for stifling discussion on things they don't want the community to talk about and steam will probably step in again.
 

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lmao, community literally moderated by snowflakes that go on banning sprees for a reaction emoji. I guess that's what you get when you mix a volunteer staff team with a scamming developer.
Are their mods really volunteers? I really don't get volunteering to do work for a for-profit business, I remember doing a double take when somebody on Steam said they were a volunteer translator too... is that really a thing? It seems ridiculous.
 
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Are their mods really volunteers? I really don't get volunteering to do work for a for-profit business, I remember doing a double take when somebody on Steam said they were a volunteer translator too... is that really a thing? It seems ridiculous.
Why not ? Often enough people are fans enough they will do work for free like moderating or translating. When there is product they will often agree to work for perks like free access, free dlc/ in game currency etc.
I remember there was a case of scam game (forgot name, it wasn't porn game) where the guy would "hire" teenager moderators (12-15) for his discord by promising them future jobs in the industry. (
 

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Are their mods really volunteers? I really don't get volunteering to do work for a for-profit business, I remember doing a double take when somebody on Steam said they were a volunteer translator too... is that really a thing? It seems ridiculous.
Sometimes people see something they really want to succeed, and want to be part of it in any way they can.
 

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Why not ? Often enough people are fans enough they will do work for free like moderating or translating. When there is product they will often agree to work for perks like free access, free dlc/ in game currency etc.
I remember there was a case of scam game (forgot name, it wasn't porn game) where the guy would "hire" teenager moderators (12-15) for his discord by promising them future jobs in the industry. (
maybe?

I think they used to have volunteer mods and it was a similar setup to FD albeit on a larger scale. Lots of focus on teasing in game footage/screenshots that turned out to be mockups, concept art and promising features that were completely beyond them then eventually a shambles of a release with a buggy and feature poor demo released after years of excuses and delays.

Not that I'm suggesting FD won't come out. Helius seems pretty confident on a subscription model so I'm sure they'll try and release something, although whether it's ever in a good state is a different question entirely. It's just uncanny the way a lot of these crowdfunded projects play out the same way.

Sometimes people see something they really want to succeed, and want to be part of it in any way they can.
Yeah I can definitely understand that on small passion projects. Not sure I see the merit on a title pulling in $100k or so a month though. That's not a lot for most businesses but it's enough that ongoing costs for moderators/translators should be negligible. It's basically a rounding error especially when the latter can just be done via services like Amazon Turk when needed.
 
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maybe?

I think they used to have volunteer mods and it was a similar setup to FD albeit on a larger scale. Lots of focus on teasing in game footage/screenshots that turned out to be mockups, concept art and promising features that were completely beyond them then eventually a shambles of a release with a buggy and feature poor demo released after years of excuses and delays.

Not that I'm suggesting FD won't come out. Helius seems pretty confident on a subscription model so I'm sure they'll try and release something, although whether it's ever in a good state is a different question entirely. It's just uncanny the way a lot of these crowdfunded projects play out the same way.


Yeah I can definitely understand that on small passion projects. Not sure I see the merit on a title pulling in $100k or so a month though. That's not a lot for most businesses but it's enough that ongoing costs for moderators/translators should be negligible. It's basically a rounding error especially when the latter can just be done via services like Amazon Turk when needed.
Found it, I recalled that dude also claimed to have some pro company backing (turned out through nepotism). The name of the game was DreamWorld MMO.

I think in case of this project people will gladly help for access to test builds and fully unlocked content. We actually had a playable version of the product what can't be said about the other scams.
 

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Found it, I recalled that dude also claimed to have some pro company backing (turned out through nepotism). The name of the game was DreamWorld MMO.

I think in case of this project people will gladly help for access to test builds and fully unlocked content. We actually had a playable version of the product what can't be said about the other scams.
Hah, oh shit, I just read about DreamWorld and am watching the video of their alpha... jesus Christ that actually makes FD look like a well run project. It looks like a mess-about project that somebody made after downloading all the free asset packs they could find on the Unreal marketplace.

I think we'll probably start seeing stuff like this more often in the future though, especially with impressive looking prototypes that go nowhere, as it becomes easier to chuck together impressive demo projects with UE5. It's pretty much just a matter of time before some more competent scammers realise how much money you can make with a (relatively) simple prototype and a Patreon account.
 
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I think we'll probably start seeing stuff like this more often in the future though, especially with impressive looking prototypes that go nowhere, as it becomes easier to chuck together impressive demo projects with UE5. It's pretty much just a matter of time before some more competent scammers realise how much money you can make with a (relatively) simple prototype and a Patreon account.
Not only on patreon or kickstarter. There is already plenty of early access Steam games where game design and trailer is like a triple A game in a making ( presentation for fools ). But all devs did was assembling together premade assets. Pretending like they are making quality game, and it's actualy " coming out " soon-ish ( TM ).

People seriously need to learn to look suspicious on every game that looks impressive on surface, but it's made by some no name developers that doesn't even have proper studio. There is good reason why even major studios - with billions of assets and hundreds / thousends of employees - require many years to release a single game.
 

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Contrary to popular opinion in this thread i think they are going to release new stuff, but as a one time aristocrat tier supporter I'm still going to be pissed off because it will be harem mode garbage instead of gallery mode. Wrong direction of development, this multiplayer mode is just plain bullshit. Let's face facts - almost everyone who paid for this "game" didn't care about gameplay, but about h. There is no gameplay at all anyway. This trash multiplayer mode is just ruined gallery mode.

Original gallery mode is still great and is best thing in it's niche, no other developer managed to create thing that even gets close to it in terms of quality. Harem mode can just go and fuck itself.
 
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