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pipetkins

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It's not what you said.

"Let the game developer invest his own personal money and create the game."
Meaning if you're not a millionaire you don't get to make games, right? Lol.
I am absolutely not sure that there are at least a few games on this site (maybe, with rare exceptions, games from illusion), the labor costs for which could be a million, or even half a million.

Where do you think the capital comes from before a game is out? No one is publishing porn games.
DLSite. You can also sell such games in steam
Studio Illusion generally specializes only in such games and feels fine.
 

Nihil5320

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It's not what you said.

"Let the game developer invest his own personal money and create the game."
Meaning if you're not a millionaire you don't get to make games, right? Lol.

Where do you think the capital comes from before a game is out? No one is publishing porn games.
Usually if you want to make games you'd start with smaller projects, if they're successful you can use the returns to attempt larger projects. You can also apply for investment from external parties who will expect a financial return on their investment, which may even include some forms of crowdfunding.

The issue comes when the "investors" are actually your customers and the return is simply the product that they are funding production of. It's not bad in principal but there is a significant disparity in bargaining power and access to information. Retail customers/investors are rarely provided the information they would require to conduct due diligence and in the event of a dispute there are no defined paths for arbitration and forcing an audit would likely necessitate an uphill legal battle. Probably an impossible battle in cases like this where the developer is based in China.

With tighter regulation I don't think it would be inherently bad, but it isn't tightly regulated. What it is is a veritable shit show. Things would be significantly improved if the likes of Patreon were required to conduct due diligence when establishing a business relationship with creators and conduct auditing of projects where appropriate.
 
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krogen94

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SKYRIM . Skyrim with adult mods.... :ROFLMAO:
U can try with my modpack . It's old version that I created in 2020 .
It is old version that I created in 2020
Can't download it can you make google link or mega link instead?
 

Jagged

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Nov 28, 2017
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SKYRIM . Skyrim with adult mods.... :ROFLMAO:
U can try with my modpack . It's old version that I created in 2020 .
It is old version that I created in 2020
Thanks! But I can't download it. I've even tried to sign up for premium, and can't even do that! Seems like it doesn't work well outside Vietnam.
 

Mogul Khan

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Aug 5, 2020
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SKYRIM . Skyrim with adult mods.... :ROFLMAO:
U can try with my modpack . It's old version that I created in 2020 .
It is old version that I created in 2020
Can't download it. I tried signing and still can't download it.
 

Gcats

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Sep 8, 2020
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I am absolutely not sure that there are at least a few games on this site (maybe, with rare exceptions, games from illusion), the labor costs for which could be a million, or even half a million.


DLSite. You can also sell such games in steam
Studio Illusion generally specializes only in such games and feels fine.
Alright, business 101

You need money to make a game to sell
you don't make money on a game before selling
that's why publishers make the decisions way too often
that's why many games end up ruined by business decisions made before sale

you're welcome
 

DMNDCE

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Man, I just love getting those "Progress Report" pings. Still renders, concept art and grayscale beta animation clips. When was the last time they actually showed off any real progress? Its almost like they're stalling for time or something.
 

Jhon6969

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Aug 23, 2022
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SKYRIM . Skyrim with adult mods.... :ROFLMAO:
U can try with my modpack . It's old version that I created in 2020 .
It is old version that I created in 2020
Can you upload un google drive? Or do you know where can i download similar version of Skyrim modded? Thx you so much!
 

Larry2000

Dev/Head Writer of Unexpected Opportunity
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One of my main personal problems with Subverse is that SFOW threw out too many promises at the beginning and then kept breaking them one after another, not mentioning that initially they said it'll be a full game on the release day. So I think they totally deserve the hate.
Aside from that it's a good project, yeah. But come on...
I thought it was the cringy edgy humor that is one step below EVEN SNL level was the main problem. Well, at least for me. The context-less sex scenes with no dialogue and the wishy washy tone: Serious now! Wait, HUMOR, wait SERIOUSNESS, humor. Deadpool would cringe at the level of cringe in that game. Anyway, the art in this game looks nice... even though it's a simple step up on just regular Honey Select.
 

Darkguinea76

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Man, I just love getting those "Progress Report" pings. Still renders, concept art and grayscale beta animation clips. When was the last time they actually showed off any real progress? Its almost like they're stalling for time or something.
This project is now a scam for sure, but people are stupid enought to keep supporting Helious, one day they will say "Oh, we are sorry, we can't finish the project, so we will keep the money to found our next project", Helious did the same thing with other projects
 

aquariada

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Jan 30, 2022
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SKYRIM . Skyrim with adult mods.... :ROFLMAO:
U can try with my modpack . It's old version that I created in 2020 .
It is old version that I created in 2020
As many here have said, could you please upload this to google drive? I'm sure a bunch of people in this thread including myself will be very grateful.
 
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Termigatron

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This project is now a scam for sure, but people are stupid enought to keep supporting Helious, one day they will say "Oh, we are sorry, we can't finish the project, so we will keep the money to found our next project", Helious did the same thing with other projects
i hope they can finish this mesh....
 
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jazon1

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With the recent cancellation news not being taken well we are once again at anything not praising the game is locked, deleted or banned.
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Also, funnily enough you were spot on about this.

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A week long "Business Trip" after the effort of recycling some old animations from Origins and cancelling half the game.
Yup that top locked one was my post they banned me for a month from their forums for asking that...must have someone from twitter working their forums for them..
 

taboge9459

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Yup that top locked one was my post they banned me for a month from their forums for asking that...must have someone from twitter working their forums for them..
Yeah you can get some serious ban timing for asking for basic info they don't want to give. Steam did step in at some point to stop Karb and Pasix from just deleting most posts luckily, but sadly he still gets his ban sprees. You can porbably escalate a ticket and cause another fuss for him if you have the time to spare, but meh. Time better spent on another project.
 
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navingard

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Mar 26, 2022
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Where can I find modlists for wabbajack? I see it mentioned everywhere but I've never seen an adult modlist for skyrim to use with wabbajack. I've tried using vortex but so far I've managed to only install sexlab framework and its requirements.
mostly out of wabbajack, forgotten glory has one on their discord
 
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