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flavorexplosion

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Dec 31, 2022
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As a newcomer to this game the demo version would have made me go support on Patreon, but thank goodness for this community for warning + saving me and I hope others from this disappointment. Horrible dev history everywhere you look.

That being said, are there really good similar 3D games for 2023?

I supported Home Together on Patreon (which is bleh, glorified dressup sim but graphics are great)
 
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As a newcomer to this game the demo version would have made me go support on Patreon, but thank goodness for this community for warning + saving me and I hope others from this disappointment. Horrible dev history everywhere you look.

That being said, are there really good similar 3D games for 2023?

I supported Home Together on Patreon (which is bleh, glorified dressup sim but graphics are great)
If you want to see an ambitious 3D game done right, look no further than Wildlife. Not only is the current sandbox gameplay promising, but they did an engine swap from UE4 to 5 very recently that was seamless too and the game still looks gorgeous.

Oh I forgot to mention the most important thing. They're very transparent about the development of the game and I don't think they've missed a deadline yet. Can't remember any controversy surrounding them either.
 

leafund

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Apr 26, 2017
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Do not forget they are Chinese devs and some are actually from Mihayo(Genshin). You guys have no ideal about the overall gaming environment in China and the evils being sealed.

Instead of making any improvement on game content, they will not stop putting effort on anti piracy or hiding offline attributes from Cheat Engine. I will not be surprised if somday they ask for your cellphone number to login. And of course, how could they forget the paid gacha button (see the harem mode and "pre-released" dlcs). Ironically, I remember they have declaimed so many times that they are not making this game for money.

The game was impressive at the beginning and I paid ~$40 for it. It probably worth $20 on steam for gallery itself but I suppose it will never be finished or finally released in unfinished form.

Be aware of chinese games. No racism. I am Chinese.
 

Erest

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Sep 9, 2018
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Do not forget they are Chinese devs and some are actually from Mihayo(Genshin). You guys have no ideal about the overall gaming environment in China and the evils being sealed.
Im sorry, but is there any actual evidences that they have Mihoyo employees or any AAA employees in the team? As you guys well aware the words Helius said cant be trusted, so is there any proof that theres actually said folks in the team? And even if theres one, are you sure it also not outsources staff aka not official staff? Heck I can just work as cleaner at there and claims Im Mihoyo or Tencent or whatever employee since that technically true.
 
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Im sorry, but is there any actual evidences that they have Mihoyo employees or any AAA employees in the team? -
As far as I recall in this thread, after all the name dropping, some of the guys did a background check and the only solid facts they got is that PH originated as a group of chinese modders/translators for Illusion games.
 

Nihil5320

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so a guy got poached from steam, now a mihoyo involve ? any actual proof of evidence ?
Oh it gets worse than that. IIRC they had an animator that worked on Far Cry 6, someone that worked on Assassins Creed, Helius used to work at Google *and* Bethesda, xHamster (lol) were going to fund the game... and so on.

Helius just likes dropping big names because he thinks it sounds impressive and makes this project look more legitimate by association.
 

Terix3

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Aug 2, 2017
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Do not forget they are Chinese devs and some are actually from Mihayo(Genshin). You guys have no ideal about the overall gaming environment in China and the evils being sealed.

Instead of making any improvement on game content, they will not stop putting effort on anti piracy or hiding offline attributes from Cheat Engine. I will not be surprised if somday they ask for your cellphone number to login. And of course, how could they forget the paid gacha button (see the harem mode and "pre-released" dlcs). Ironically, I remember they have declaimed so many times that they are not making this game for money.

The game was impressive at the beginning and I paid ~$40 for it. It probably worth $20 on steam for gallery itself but I suppose it will never be finished or finally released in unfinished form.

Be aware of chinese games. No racism. I am Chinese.
Hmm gacha originates from Japan, Korean games are P2W as fuck and then Chinese adds in the "silence all criticism". Not sure who is really the source of this evil but no worries western devs are learning fast and audience gets used to it as well.

Five years ago people would be like "Gacha ? Would never play that shit" than Genshin happened and now "Gacha ain't that bad". P2W? In past - "No P2W in my game period." Now? "Well as long it is not x it is fine." "It is not P2W because Y is real P2W"

Also remember that as game enters gacha territory it becomes all about whales. A whale can be worth 1000 players and whales will not care about grind and content locked behind paywalls because they can just swipe their way through. So unfortunately our little contributions aren't worth more than the premium currency/stuff you get for it.

Helius just likes dropping big names because he thinks it sounds impressive and makes this project look more legitimate by association.
100% this, It's perfect lie as none can disprove it and it works as people keep fueling the rumor
 

taboge9459

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100% this, It's perfect lie as none can disprove it and it works as people keep fueling the rumor
Helius does make some disprovable claims, it just doesn't matter too much since there's only really a few people willing to disprove it, and they can't really post that anywhere except this site.

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Seems hard enough to disprove. Except most of Cyberpunk 2077's vehicles were designed by a single dude.

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You can even And notably he doesn't do too many commissions, especially not for some sketchy random porn game that won't even use the vehicles made.

Would Helius have known this when bull shitting? Naw, he just saw an opportunity to jump in. Will most people dig in to find this out? Also naw. But you can prove his stuff false with enough time, effort, and stubbornness.
 

Terix3

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Helius does make some disprovable claims, it just doesn't matter too much since there's only really a few people willing to disprove it, and they can't really post that anywhere except this site.

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Seems hard enough to disprove. Except most of Cyberpunk 2077's vehicles were designed by a single dude.

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You can even And notably he doesn't do too many commissions, especially not for some sketchy random porn game that won't even use the vehicles made.

Would Helius have known this when bull shitting? Naw, he just saw an opportunity to jump in. Will most people dig in to find this out? Also naw. But you can prove his stuff false with enough time, effort, and stubbornness.
Well Helius said the designer is from 2077 team, rather that it is one of people that designed 2077 cars.
Also the usual stuff, most people won't admit that they are fans of some monster sex porn game.
 

grunt_pepper

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Oh it gets worse than that. IIRC they had an animator that worked on Far Cry 6, someone that worked on Assassins Creed, Helius used to work at Google *and* Bethesda, xHamster (lol) were going to fund the game... and so on.
Don't forget his claim that someone was investing millions of USD into the game, or that they had to include the multiplayer bullshit because it was a requirement from the CEO of a big Japanese corporation that was lending them his mocap studio.

It's all bullshit. Helius will say or do anything to keep the Patreon money going. Even this update was likely a Hail Mary to shore up support because he had begun to realize the paypigs were getting too restless, so he cobbled together the few bits and pieces of old content he had laying around from who knows when and called it an update.
 

ozzy750

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The date when he post this screen about 2077 designer was a time when Cyberpunk 2077 was in news again and lot of ppls play it again, so looks like he play and decide lie subs about lol
 

bigpenniser

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Don't forget his claim that someone was investing millions of USD into the game, or that they had to include the multiplayer bullshit because it was a requirement from the CEO of a big Japanese corporation that was lending them his mocap studio.

It's all bullshit. Helius will say or do anything to keep the Patreon money going. Even this update was likely a Hail Mary to shore up support because he had begun to realize the paypigs were getting too restless, so he cobbled together the few bits and pieces of old content he had laying around from who knows when and called it an update.
The DRM was because "THE BIG INVESTORS" demanded it (back when they were actually legit, it was rumored to be DLSite, turns out it was fucking no one), the online mode was because "THE BIG INVESTORS" demanded it
But the big investors dont even exist
 
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ThatHero

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May 28, 2021
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Used to be - " A roguelike strategy game featuring squad tactics and deck building... " . Turned out to be " HD hentai gif-loops group masturbation lobby ".
This line right here actually struck a cord with me. After all this time, I actually forgot that it originally was supposed to be a strategy game. That was the entire reason I backed it a couple of years ago, on top of the animation quality (at the time).

One of my consistent complaints with most H-games tends to be how they aren't really fun as "games" at the end of the day, so I was really looking forward to another one with interesting gameplay. It makes me sad to check back every few months and see the project seemingly getting worse, but it is what it is :(
 
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benisfug

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This line right here actually struck a cord with me. After all this time, I actually forgot that it originally was supposed to be a strategy game. That was the entire reason I backed it a couple of years ago, on top of the animation quality (at the time).

One of my consistent complaints with most H-games tends to be how they aren't really fun as "games" at the end of the day, so I was really looking forward to another one with interesting gameplay. It makes me sad to check back every few months and see the project seemingly getting worse, but it is what it is :(
It was supposed to be an android pimping simulator before the strategy game. Then there was another game before original Fallen Doll I know nothing about. That's three or four reboots and not a single project actually finished, but they're totally 100% for real this time so remember to keep paying.
 

Lolkakok

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Considering what day and age we live in...Maybe we can somehow boycote PH so they stop beeing fucking greedy pigs? Or nuh?
 
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