Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]

[LjQujd]

Interesting topic of conversation here about UE5 games. Not sure why Wild Life is being so harshly critisized though, especially compared to Fallen Doll of all games. Would like to hear some specific thoughs on that.

Also, when it comes to judging attractivness of female models it's always going to be subjective.
I would say each game has it's distinct visual style, none of which is ugly. Subjectively speaking though, Fallen Doll's 2 main girls have faces of 13 and 15 year olds so that puts me off quite a bit. The mature looking model is super hot though!

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[Termigatron]

Interesting topic of conversation here about UE5 games. Not sure why Wild Life is being so harshly critisized though, especially compared to Fallen Doll of all games. Would like to hear some specific thoughs on that.

Also, when it comes to judging attractivness of female models it's always going to be subjective.
I would say each game has it's distinct visual style, none of which is ugly. Subjectively speaking though, Fallen Doll's 2 main girls have faces of 13 and 15 year olds so that puts me off quite a bit. The mature looking model is super hot though!

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hate to say but i prefer FD design than WL design... but helius make FD become the Worst H-game ever..

 

[BobKilan]

Interesting topic of conversation here about UE5 games. Not sure why Wild Life is being so harshly critisized though, especially compared to Fallen Doll of all games. Would like to hear some specific thoughs on that.

Also, when it comes to judging attractivness of female models it's always going to be subjective.
I would say each game has it's distinct visual style, none of which is ugly. Subjectively speaking though, Fallen Doll's 2 main girls have faces of 13 and 15 year olds so that puts me off quite a bit. The mature looking model is super hot though!

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I get some people like doll like characters such as Mercy or Wild Life's characters, but they look quite plastic and uncanny. Overall, I'm pretty sure its a very niche taste. Not saying its wrong, but I'm quite confident most people don't like plastic looking characters. Due to the aesthetic applied they end up looking like two console generations old, visually, even if its clear the engine can much produce better results. It is particularly jarring mashed up against great lighting, shadows, and the environments. Its good seeing the photos side by side. Clearly WL is ahead with lighting and shading.
If curious just look at this search in the Wild Life thread for the term 'plastic' as people regularly complain about how they look like dolls, plastic, and other terms about how ugly they are. https://f95zone.to/search/261384145/?q=plastic&t=post&c[thread]=3810&o=relevance

Fallen Doll's characters look like 13-15? You must not be from the U.S. This doesn't look that young, especially somewhere like some parts of California where people tend to be more athletic, look younger, get out more, and have lower obesity rates. The first two girls look like they're in their early to mid 20s, though the third looks like she could pass for her 30s. There are a reasonable number who look this young even in their 30s though depending on how they care for their health and fitness.

You are right. Overall, attractiveness is subjective.

 

[SortaLewd]

Interesting topic of conversation here about UE5 games. Not sure why Wild Life is being so harshly critisized though, especially compared to Fallen Doll of all games. Would like to hear some specific thoughs on that.

Also, when it comes to judging attractivness of female models it's always going to be subjective.
I would say each game has it's distinct visual style, none of which is ugly. Subjectively speaking though, Fallen Doll's 2 main girls have faces of 13 and 15 year olds so that puts me off quite a bit. The mature looking model is super hot though!

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It's probably the artstyle people find less attractive. Wild Life is more stylized while Fallen Doll aims for a "realistic" look. If Fallen Doll characters were swapped to the stylized appearances of Wild Life and vice versa people would probably change their opinions. I like that they're trying a stylized look instead of the staple "realism" approach. Not everything needs to be realistic, especially when it comes to porn games with hentai-like tropes like ahegao and whatnot. It doesn't always translate so well and leads to cursed looking facial expressions like Alet sometimes when she does her ahegao faces.

I also kind of like Subverse for the same reason, they went with stylized visuals and because of that all the wacky stuff that happens in that game fits better imo.

 

[coolgy]

with the new UE5 tools for mocap, building environments and how damn good it looks, it wont take long for someone to build something that looks way better than this game.

I think most people agree that the current path of development isn't consumer friendly, even for their supporters.

We just dont have any decent alternatives to this project, so Helius has a monopoly. I still hope this project moves past its current hurdles and we get a decent consumer product, but its hard to remain optimistic when you see the current implementation.

 

[HardcoreCuddler]

hate to say but i prefer FD design than WL design... but helius make FD become the Worst H-game ever..

same. The GFX just have something different in them in FD and in a good way. Idc about the faces either, they're all sexy to me.

I get some people like doll like characters such as Mercy or Wild Life's characters, but they look quite plastic and uncanny. Overall, I'm pretty sure its a very niche taste. Not saying its wrong, but I'm quite confident most people don't like plastic looking characters. Due to the aesthetic applied they end up looking like two console generations old, visually, even if its clear the engine can much produce better results. It is particularly jarring mashed up against great lighting, shadows, and the environments. Its good seeing the photos side by side. Clearly WL is ahead with lighting and shading.
If curious just look at this search in the Wild Life thread for the term 'plastic' as people regularly complain about how they look like dolls, plastic, and other terms about how ugly they are. https://f95zone.to/search/261384145/?q=plastic&t=post&c[thread]=3810&o=relevance

Fallen Doll's characters look like 13-15? You must not be from the U.S. This doesn't look that young, especially somewhere like some parts of California where people tend to be more athletic, look younger, get out more, and have lower obesity rates. The first two girls look like they're in their early to mid 20s, though the third looks like she could pass for her 30s. There are a reasonable number who look this young even in their 30s though depending on how they care for their health and fitness.

You are right. Overall, attractiveness is subjective.

If I learned anything in my life so far it's that I shouldn't judge someone's age from appearance, because I know someone that looks 14 but they're actually 21. One other person I know looks like she...like 9 and she's also 21.

 

[Nihil5320]

with the new UE5 tools for mocap, building environments and how damn good it looks, it wont take long for someone to build something that looks way better than this game.

I think most people agree that the current path of development isn't consumer friendly, even for their supporters.

We just dont have any decent alternatives to this project, so Helius has a monopoly. I still hope this project moves past its current hurdles and we get a decent consumer product, but its hard to remain optimistic when you see the current implementation.

I don't know about us not having any alternatives, maybe that was once true but there are a few now and in line with the above discussions most of the differences are a matter of preference or art style.

Just taking a look at threads on F95 we've now got Fallen Doll, Wild Life, Carnal Instinct, Our Apartment, Home Together, Afterparty, Hero's Journey (Under the Witch), Under the Horizon and there's even slightly jankier stuff like Inheritance: Ladeina's path and She Will Punish Them.

All targeting relatively high end systems with varying art styles and in various stages of development. Some of them arguably aren't very good, and will likely never be any good, but then neither is Fallen Doll anymore... I'd say more than a few of them have already surpassed FD in terms of quality and content.

 

[Terix3]

Attractiveness is subjective but I believe characters stylized like FD have much further reach.
If you think of most simped female characters they are mostly coming from the Asian development side
(No huge thanks to western games going for "realistic" aka half ugly approach) Tifa, 2B, SF/DOA/KOF/ characters, Lara - FD has similar style.
On the other hand WL would be associated with cartoon stylized graphics like Overwatch, WoW, Fortnite and sure those have their share of r34 content but i don't think anyone naturally thinks of those characters as "sexy", its more like acquired taste.

 

[LjQujd]

I see what you guys mean. It takes a certain eye to catch the visual style difference. Guess for me I don't really have a preference and most styles can give me a boner because the context of a sex scene takes the precedence. Would say that for a lot of folks it's the same, hence the popularity of Koikatsu, Honey Select and the like.

Guess I agree that Wild Life is slightly more stylized. However, I think I can offer some context about the plastic look.

Wild Life is currently not well optimized and this can make the characters appear that way because many players have to play on the lowest visual settings. Secondly, if the game hits your GPUs VRAM limit then the textures are even more downscaled to avoid performance issues (happened to me a lot with GTX 1080). That is what many players complain about, especially with the newest builds that run on UE5 where this was introduced. Lastly, the game's default charcater presets do steer into the plasticky doll like visual. Below I included a comparison with one female model that signifies this the best. Her default look gives off the doll vibes, but when you tweak the skin texture and hair she will come to life imo.

Spoiler: Left side - LOW settings / Right side - HIGH settings / Up is default Aoi / Down is customised Aoi

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Going back to Fallen Doll, the thing about Alet's and Erika's models that strikers me odd is the baby face effect (round cheeks, narrow lips, big eyes) that makes them look like teenagers to me. In some scenes it really pops, like the one below. Don't think anyone can argue that Erika does not look like a little girl there. Her head size, body and outfit may be mature, but the face..
Overall though the feel ingame really is more realistic, I agree with that.

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[VNLXV]

I will never comprehend why the devs decided to turn this into a player-interaction-driven game. Not many people look at their porn and think man, I wish the boys were with me. People might meme and joke about it, but the majority don't actually want that.

 

[Grimlock-7567]

This game is already dead on arrival, look how Scamelius made everything based on battle pass. I'm glad I cancelled my Patreon while ago. Now I don't wish this game to be successful anymore. I wish it to be done so it's worth pirating, bypass those scummy microtransaction and battle pass on a full paid game.

What I love most is how he's gotten so greedy with it, he's forgotten it's a porn game? not a *Game*. Like... if you put so much shit in the way of the player being able to easily enjoy themselves, why the hell would they play it? "Yeah I put tens of hours in this game all week dealing with its crappy mechanics so I can finally jerk off Saturday night" Like who would actually *play* this for anything other than the porn? They're not world-renowned devs who can make combat gameplay the likes of which a AAA games just could never? it's all gonna feel like over-reaching trash. I really hope people can pirate the shit out of this purely because it'll *finally* end up as a decent porn game.. *maybe*.

 

[kusax88]

So the space station has same performance as it did in 0.49. So much for rebuild eh?
All the "rebuild" is they added erotes and denuvo. A year+ for next to nothing.
The erotes nightclub runs smoother but servers be jank.
can lose packs when opening them
I never got in yet to try newest build but I can only assume expressions are still weird.
might be just me but I also think the sex animations seem stiff

 

[coolgy]

So the space station has same performance as it did in 0.49. So much for rebuild eh?
All the "rebuild" is they added erotes and denuvo. A year+ for next to nothing.
The erotes nightclub runs smoother but servers be jank.
can lose packs when opening them
I never got in yet to try newest build but I can only assume expressions are still weird.
might be just me but I also think the sex animations seem stiff

Flat out lie. I run 45 fps on a private lobby using the cracked build from this forum.

On the same hardware im running at 70 FPS on the live build on the space station.

165 FPS in Erotes with small lobby.

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[Smaild]

For me, the big problem with porn games, especially high-budget ones like Fallen Doll or Wild Life, is that they don't go anywhere. Let me explain, they restart the story every moment, change the gameplay or start again claiming that it is for the improvement of the game. Nonsense, unfortunately the current porn games are only a nest to attract money, and yes, I understand, it is a business and money must be earned, but man, they should at least finish them (it will take about three years) and then start another project, but it's always the same project for years and years and in the end you don't get anywhere. At least that's my thought.

For this reason I respect Japanese developers, when they finish a project they publish it directly on Dlsite. Well, they have also started opening Patrons pages but they keep posting the full games, I just hope they don't get as cheeky as the western ones.

 

[markon711]

What I love most is how he's gotten so greedy with it, he's forgotten it's a porn game? not a *Game*. Like... if you put so much shit in the way of the player being able to easily enjoy themselves, why the hell would they play it? "Yeah I put tens of hours in this game all week dealing with its crappy mechanics so I can finally jerk off Saturday night" Like who would actually *play* this for anything other than the porn? They're not world-renowned devs who can make combat gameplay the likes of which a AAA games just could never? it's all gonna feel like over-reaching trash. I really hope people can pirate the shit out of this purely because it'll *finally* end up as a decent porn game.. *maybe*.

Yea, why would we have to grinding for experiment to jerk off next time lol. Why don't they just create a story gameplay like they have planned with attractive character to make us horny then masturbate them in gallery or smh.

 

[benisfug]

For me, the big problem with porn games, especially high-budget ones like Fallen Doll or Wild Life, is that they don't go anywhere. Let me explain, they restart the story every moment, change the gameplay or start again claiming that it is for the improvement of the game. Nonsense, unfortunately the current porn games are only a nest to attract money, and yes, I understand, it is a business and money must be earned, but man, they should at least finish them (it will take about three years) and then start another project, but it's always the same project for years and years and in the end you don't get anywhere. At least that's my thought.

For this reason I respect Japanese developers, when they finish a project they publish it directly on Dlsite. Well, they have also started opening Patrons pages but they keep posting the full games, I just hope they don't get as cheeky as the western ones.



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Big budget 3D games are kind of screwed no matter where you go, Illusion just rehashes their old games with less content and more DLC.

Also Grimhelm was too good for this earth RIP big man.

 

[SortaLewd]

Flat out lie. I run 45 fps on a private lobby using the cracked build from this forum.

On the same hardware im running at 70 FPS on the live build on the space station.

165 FPS in Erotes with small lobby.

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Is this with or without DLSS? When I tried the update earlier in March I didn't see any option for FSR, so maybe they're on AMD cards and can't benefit from any performance boosts from DLSS. Though even if they aren't, there were people in the Discord server saying they didn't notice any performance improvements either. For me it ran the exact same as 0.49, but every time I tried there were other people in the lobby so maybe performance was being hogged down by that, but then again that's what was supposed to have been addressed in the rebuild...

If only I could test without running into issues lol.

 

[Redboi8]

Also Grimhelm was too good for this earth RIP big man.

What happened to him btw? Did he just stopped making games due to losing an interest or other reasons? Or he really died?..

 

[Whotfisthis]

What happened to him btw? Did he just stopped making games due to losing an interest or other reasons? Or he really died?..

Whenever he finishes a game he just go absolutely silent. Could be making a game, could have quit, could have done anything else other than not appearing dead online. I lean towards him making another game since he did post a concept sketch which could be found somewhere in the Alien Quest Eve thread

 

[coolgy]

Is this with or without DLSS? When I tried the update earlier in March I didn't see any option for FSR, so maybe they're on AMD cards and can't benefit from any performance boosts from DLSS. Though even if they aren't, there were people in the Discord server saying they didn't notice any performance improvements either. For me it ran the exact same as 0.49, but every time I tried there were other people in the lobby so maybe performance was being hogged down by that, but then again that's what was supposed to have been addressed in the rebuild...

If only I could test without running into issues lol.

This was on Nvidia graphics and AMD CPU.

I heard none of the settings are currently doing fuck all except resolution and something else i cant remember.

I dont think people remember how shit the performance really was in 0.49. My result of 70 fps on live was in a full lobby even though i didnt post the full lobby screen (GL getting a private lobby on live). Vs me being the only player on the cracked build still only getting 38 FPS.

But you may be right, AMD graphics usually require better game specific driver fixes to improve things, which i dont think FD will get lol.

Also to the Alien Quest EVE point, i also agree its unfair to use it as an example because literally every other dev is put to shame by Grimhelm. Dude only ever asks for help when he needs it. No bullshit. What a legend.