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Nihil5320

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I finally redeemed my steam key from the Patreon when i supported it 2 years ago, why is there a battlepass? Are they really expecting people to sit there and grind out porn? I'm liking the animations and stuff, but not a huge amount seems to have changed since 0.49. New girl is great, tanned tomboy is always a good fit, as are her outfits and animations. I'm just incredibly confused about why the game is doing what it is.
Basically they were half arsing development to milk Patreon but you can't keep that up indefinitely and this game had been on Patreon since Patreon launched (2016). Time was running out and in order to keep that steady revenue coming in, whilst minimizing the actual work required, they decided changing to a live service model was the best solution.

The plan seems to have been to launch a F2P then every 3 months or so add a character model and animation set and boom, you've got a game you can milk for an extra few years getting $x every quarter. If you've got a good framework for your game, development of which was kindly funded by Patreon no less, this is a pretty profitable solution.

Issue is they massively misjudged both the demand for a multiplayer porn game and their ability to execute it. What we have as a result is a game that once upon a time had ~1.5k players logging in when it dropped on Steam now struggling to hit 200 players weeks after the first update in 14 months:
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The funny thing is that in this time they could probably have wrapped up development of Fallen Doll (under the build they now call Origins), sold it on Steam to a wider market for tens of thousands of sales at ~$20 and then gone back to Patreon to develop Paralogue.

Instead they've done another few "rebuilds" and all they have to show for it is a game that has precisely zero hope of ever maintaining the kind of player count or conversion rates you need for a F2P to be profitable. It is one of the most spectacularly mismanaged projects I have ever seen. Really funny to watch though.
 

Richarddick

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Just because everytime I visit this site and see all the same stuff; the life selector (N64) game, growing numbers of trannies, girls with dicks and anthropomorphic dogs, cats and foxes, sub-amateur 3D/2D games, the boring vainilla visual novels, the supposed to be funny "hittler does X thing" games, the occasional girls that apparently love to be raped by whatever is raping them (artists now put hearts on their eyes for some reason), the usual dev circlejerk and the people that comes to a porn forum asking for actual gaming experiences to feel some kind of reward when they get to see (after they lose the game mostly) boobs/dicks, I always have to stop by and end at this thread to remind you all:


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https://f95zone.to/threads/fallen-d...4-9-cracked-project-helius.33403/post-7749782
https://f95zone.to/threads/fallen-d...4-9-cracked-project-helius.33403/post-4551991

Thread has been cleaned, I remember how I was being attacked by everyone because I've said devs were scamming everyone, they were using marketing and simple hype to attract simps that later bought their patron stuff.

Daddy was right.
 
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Nihil5320

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People like this are how Helius gets away with this shit.

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This is like 3000+ Dollars from one person alone. Imagine bragging about wasting thousands on a literal broken demo that took a decade to make.
I'm pretty much convinced at this point that ~70% of Patreon's revenue is reliant on users forgetting (or just not realising in the first place) that their subs renew monthly.
 

fireclaws10

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Basically they were half arsing development to milk Patreon but you can't keep that up indefinitely and this game had been on Patreon since Patreon launched (2016). Time was running out and in order to keep that steady revenue coming in, whilst minimizing the actual work required, they decided changing to a live service model was the best solution.

The plan seems to have been to launch a F2P then every 3 months or so add a character model and animation set and boom, you've got a game you can milk for an extra few years getting $x every quarter. If you've got a good framework for your game, development of which was kindly funded by Patreon no less, this is a pretty profitable solution.

Issue is they massively misjudged both the demand for a multiplayer porn game and their ability to execute it. What we have as a result is a game that once upon a time had ~1.5k players logging in when it dropped on Steam now struggling to hit 200 players weeks after the first update in 14 months:
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The funny thing is that in this time they could probably have wrapped up development of Fallen Doll (under the build they now call Origins), sold it on Steam to a wider market for tens of thousands of sales at ~$20 and then gone back to Patreon to develop Paralogue.

Instead they've done another few "rebuilds" and all they have to show for it is a game that has precisely zero hope of ever maintaining the kind of player count or conversion rates you need for a F2P to be profitable. It is one of the most spectacularly mismanaged projects I have ever seen. Really funny to watch though.
yeah NGL it's a bit weird being in the same room as a bunch of people you know are beating off, they REALLY need a private mode or something, where you can't see anyone else's stuff. Then i guess you can like other people's stuff to get battlepass points (FFS why is that there).

I tried to grind a bit today, but sitting on the pole to grind likes is just not fun. Plus i don't really like Alet or Erika's dance that much. Erica's is way too short, and Alet is just bobbing her head around the pole.
 

Terix3

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yeah NGL it's a bit weird being in the same room as a bunch of people you know are beating off, they REALLY need a private mode or something, where you can't see anyone else's stuff. Then i guess you can like other people's stuff to get battlepass points (FFS why is that there).

I tried to grind a bit today, but sitting on the pole to grind likes is just not fun. Plus i don't really like Alet or Erika's dance that much. Erica's is way too short, and Alet is just bobbing her head around the pole.
Does it bother people when they watch life cams and other stuff that involves chat?
You could hide others in old version and there is no interactivity between others so it didn't really bother me.

Anyway does the game actually work now or is it still mostly broken?
 

taboge9459

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What alien is trying to replace Pasix?

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I mean, he still tries to pass most of it off onto Discord TOS and the whole "sorry you think that" schtick, but this is the closest we've ever seen the man to admitting to a mistake. I kinda doubt that after several years of this though he's gonna stop banning people for disliking the game or doing anything to alleviate that need to lurk for old timers. Also guarantee most names off here would get the ban hammer the second they reach out to him.
 

xana94

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All this drama for a game with only 4 fucking girls, not even realistics :KEK: Scamlius team needs help :KEK:
They added a fourth girl? I know jack shit past the current cracked version. I heard there was a younger looking woman but they had content restriction issues with her
 
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- but this is the closest we've ever seen the man to admitting to a mistake-
Not at all. This is crystal clear a politically correct announcement that they're issuing because it's no longer a secret that they rule their forums with an iron fist, so to save some face they come out "in peace" but just like you point out, no real changes.
 
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Owlearyn

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Man, considering how long this game is in production, how much money the creators have earned and still how this project is not even worth to be called a "game" is disappointing to say the least. Yeah, they often showcase new costumes, concepts and lots of other stuff on patreon, but the game doesn't have even a 1/10 of it. I'm terrified of how this project managed not to kick the bucket after all these years..
 
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