Not at all. This is crystal clear a politically correct announcement that they're issuing because it's no longer a secret that they rule their forums with an iron fist, so to save some face they come out "in peace" but just like you point out, no real changes.
Man, considering how long this game is in production, how much money the creators have earned and still how this project is not even worth to be called a "game" is disappointing to say the least. Yeah, they often showcase new costumes, concepts and lots of other stuff on patreon, but the game doesn't have even a 1/10 of it. I'm terrified of how this project managed not to kick the bucket after all these years..
I mean, he still tries to pass most of it off onto Discord TOS and the whole "sorry you think that" schtick, but this is the closest we've ever seen the man to admitting to a mistake. I kinda doubt that after several years of this though he's gonna stop banning people for disliking the game or doing anything to alleviate that need to lurk for old timers. Also guarantee most names off here would get the ban hammer the second they reach out to him.
Well they were planning a quarterly battlepass so logically you'd expect a 3 month max between content updates... but knowing Helius that might all be thrown out of the window waaaay before the 3 month limit is up.
This is especially likely considering that Patreon subs
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and have now completely flatlined since 1 April, the drop on 1 May is going to be a heffa and that's usually when Helius goes batshit crazy and completely changes the projects scope/roadmap.
I'm also personally indifferent to them just adding new models and/or animations. Especially given how limited and janky a lot of their animations are, with clipping issues being a regular thing and usually the entire scenes are just very short loops with really minor variation and imperceptible climaxes.
I'll never not be surprised how delusional the discord server is. I was going back through to see if the teams commitment to being less crap had any truth, and stumbled upon a nice gem where someone was complaining about the lack of being able to access origins.
The response? Clearly this guy shoulda read the years worth of posts (many locked behind subbing) before he subbed to the patreon. Also when pointed out it's still advertised on both Patreon and the projecthelius website?
Like my brother in christ, if your own website and patreon page isn't your problem for being inaccurate and out of date then whose is it? Are they under the impression Patreon itself is supposed to monitor and update this?
Like my brother in christ, if your own website and patreon page isn't your problem for being inaccurate and out of date then whose is it? Are they under the impression Patreon itself is supposed to monitor and update this?
Obviously this project (and the unpaid discord mods) are a joke but this is 100% a problem of Patreon's design. They intentionally designed their system to punt responsibility to devs, knowing it essentially equates to a no-refund policy, whilst making sure that there's no review system and no policing of what information (if any) is provided to buyers prepruchase.
I mean hell just look at the "clearly stated" descriptions on their Patreon and combine it with the Steam blurb shown on their homepage:
That post they link for more details? Locked behind a Patreon sub.
There is literally no way for a prospective buyer to know that the game is multiplayer only until it's too late. Any reasonable reading, even an exceptionally thorough one, would conclude that this is a single player roguelike/strategy/squad something or other porn game with an additional multiplayer mode. There's no mention of it going F2P, dropping the roguelike crap, the video has nothing to do with the game and they even advertise VR support that they currently don't have.
Obviously it's pretty scummy but it's Patreon that enable it and it is entirely by design. If Patreon implemented creator reviews, took responsibility for refunds or even went crazy and actually moderated their own platform things would be waaaay less of a shitshow.
Obviously this project (and the unpaid discord mods) are a joke but this is 100% a problem of Patreon's design. They intentionally designed their system to punt responsibility to devs, knowing it essentially equates to a no-refund policy, whilst making sure that there's no review system and no policing of what information (if any) is provided to buyers prepruchase.
I mean hell just look at the "clearly stated" descriptions on their Patreon and combine it with the Steam blurb shown on their homepage:
That post they link for more details? Locked behind a Patreon sub.
There is literally no way for a prospective buyer to know that the game is multiplayer only until it's too late. Any reasonable reading, even an exceptionally thorough one, would conclude that this is a single player roguelike/strategy/squad something or other porn game with an additional multiplayer mode. There's no mention of it going F2P, dropping the roguelike crap, the video has nothing to do with the game and they even advertise VR support that they currently don't have.
Obviously it's pretty scummy but it's Patreon that enable it and it is entirely by design. If Patreon implemented creator reviews, took responsibility for refunds or even went crazy and actually moderated their own platform things would be waaaay less of a shitshow.
You can't lay all the blame on Patreon when Steam is also doing nothing about them. I think the worst they ever did was give one of the moderators a slap on the wrist for mashing his delete button too hard. OL is pretty flagrantly violating a ton of Steam's publishing rules.
You can't lay all the blame on Patreon when Steam is also doing nothing about them. I think the worst they ever did was give one of the moderators a slap on the wrist for mashing his delete button too hard. OL is pretty flagrantly violating a ton of Steam's publishing rules.
Which rules, given that they haven't actually sold anything via Steam yet?
I know they would be breaking the rules for EA games, as they require that devs provide an accurate description of the current state of the game which even extends to third party sites, but so far as I'm aware that only applies to games that are actually in EA.
I do agree Steam are a joke for letting devs use their platform to legitimise projects like this, not to mention giving them a free distribution platform for keys being sold elsewhere, but I don't think it's really Steam's problem to solve until they start selling on Steam.
I mean, he still tries to pass most of it off onto Discord TOS and the whole "sorry you think that" schtick, but this is the closest we've ever seen the man to admitting to a mistake. I kinda doubt that after several years of this though he's gonna stop banning people for disliking the game or doing anything to alleviate that need to lurk for old timers. Also guarantee most names off here would get the ban hammer the second they reach out to him.
Does it bother people when they watch life cams and other stuff that involves chat?
You could hide others in old version and there is no interactivity between others so it didn't really bother me.
Anyway does the game actually work now or is it still mostly broken?
the game works just fine, no issues apart from some mild clipping with clothes and the occasional jiggle glitch out.
There's a difference being on a chat of a camgirl, that's just text you can ignore. In Fallen Doll, people are placing sex scenes everywhere, poledancing, changing clothes etc. It's more like being in a room at a virtual orgy.
