Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]

[taboge9459]

I'll never not be surprised how delusional the discord server is. I was going back through to see if the teams commitment to being less crap had any truth, and stumbled upon a nice gem where someone was complaining about the lack of being able to access origins.

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The response? Clearly this guy shoulda read the years worth of posts (many locked behind subbing) before he subbed to the patreon. Also when pointed out it's still advertised on both Patreon and the projecthelius website?

Spoiler: Still there

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Colress just says it's not their problem.

Spoiler: "Not their problem"

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Like my brother in christ, if your own website and patreon page isn't your problem for being inaccurate and out of date then whose is it? Are they under the impression Patreon itself is supposed to monitor and update this?

 

[Nihil5320]

Colress just says it's not their problem.

Spoiler: "Not their problem"

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Like my brother in christ, if your own website and patreon page isn't your problem for being inaccurate and out of date then whose is it? Are they under the impression Patreon itself is supposed to monitor and update this?

Obviously this project (and the unpaid discord mods) are a joke but this is 100% a problem of Patreon's design. They intentionally designed their system to punt responsibility to devs, knowing it essentially equates to a no-refund policy, whilst making sure that there's no review system and no policing of what information (if any) is provided to buyers prepruchase.

I mean hell just look at the "clearly stated" descriptions on their Patreon and combine it with the Steam blurb shown on their homepage:

Spoiler: Game Descriptions

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That post they link for more details? Locked behind a Patreon sub.

There is literally no way for a prospective buyer to know that the game is multiplayer only until it's too late. Any reasonable reading, even an exceptionally thorough one, would conclude that this is a single player roguelike/strategy/squad something or other porn game with an additional multiplayer mode. There's no mention of it going F2P, dropping the roguelike crap, the video has nothing to do with the game and they even advertise VR support that they currently don't have.

Obviously it's pretty scummy but it's Patreon that enable it and it is entirely by design. If Patreon implemented creator reviews, took responsibility for refunds or even went crazy and actually moderated their own platform things would be waaaay less of a shitshow.

 

[gangie die 19]

is there really not a single gameplay vid showcasing wats new.

 

[benisfug]

Obviously this project (and the unpaid discord mods) are a joke but this is 100% a problem of Patreon's design. They intentionally designed their system to punt responsibility to devs, knowing it essentially equates to a no-refund policy, whilst making sure that there's no review system and no policing of what information (if any) is provided to buyers prepruchase.

I mean hell just look at the "clearly stated" descriptions on their Patreon and combine it with the Steam blurb shown on their homepage:

Spoiler: Game Descriptions

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That post they link for more details? Locked behind a Patreon sub.

There is literally no way for a prospective buyer to know that the game is multiplayer only until it's too late. Any reasonable reading, even an exceptionally thorough one, would conclude that this is a single player roguelike/strategy/squad something or other porn game with an additional multiplayer mode. There's no mention of it going F2P, dropping the roguelike crap, the video has nothing to do with the game and they even advertise VR support that they currently don't have.

Obviously it's pretty scummy but it's Patreon that enable it and it is entirely by design. If Patreon implemented creator reviews, took responsibility for refunds or even went crazy and actually moderated their own platform things would be waaaay less of a shitshow.

You can't lay all the blame on Patreon when Steam is also doing nothing about them. I think the worst they ever did was give one of the moderators a slap on the wrist for mashing his delete button too hard. OL is pretty flagrantly violating a ton of Steam's publishing rules.

 

[Nihil5320]

You can't lay all the blame on Patreon when Steam is also doing nothing about them. I think the worst they ever did was give one of the moderators a slap on the wrist for mashing his delete button too hard. OL is pretty flagrantly violating a ton of Steam's publishing rules.

Which rules, given that they haven't actually sold anything via Steam yet?

I know they would be breaking the rules for EA games, as they require that devs provide an accurate description of the current state of the game which even extends to third party sites, but so far as I'm aware that only applies to games that are actually in EA.

I do agree Steam are a joke for letting devs use their platform to legitimise projects like this, not to mention giving them a free distribution platform for keys being sold elsewhere, but I don't think it's really Steam's problem to solve until they start selling on Steam.

 

[kusax88]

What alien is trying to replace Pasix?

Spoiler: No way its him

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I mean, he still tries to pass most of it off onto Discord TOS and the whole "sorry you think that" schtick, but this is the closest we've ever seen the man to admitting to a mistake. I kinda doubt that after several years of this though he's gonna stop banning people for disliking the game or doing anything to alleviate that need to lurk for old timers. Also guarantee most names off here would get the ban hammer the second they reach out to him.

This is just damage control. Some mods were playing favoritism and banning on baseless accusations.

 

[fireclaws10]

Does it bother people when they watch life cams and other stuff that involves chat?
You could hide others in old version and there is no interactivity between others so it didn't really bother me.

Anyway does the game actually work now or is it still mostly broken?

the game works just fine, no issues apart from some mild clipping with clothes and the occasional jiggle glitch out.

There's a difference being on a chat of a camgirl, that's just text you can ignore. In Fallen Doll, people are placing sex scenes everywhere, poledancing, changing clothes etc. It's more like being in a room at a virtual orgy.

 

[Termigatron]

dayum got kicked from discord, i dont even chat for a while

 

[benisfug]

Which rules, given that they haven't actually sold anything via Steam yet?

I know they would be breaking the rules for EA games, as they require that devs provide an accurate description of the current state of the game which even extends to third party sites, but so far as I'm aware that only applies to games that are actually in EA.

I do agree Steam are a joke for letting devs use their platform to legitimise projects like this, not to mention giving them a free distribution platform for keys being sold elsewhere, but I don't think it's really Steam's problem to solve until they start selling on Steam.

I know that according to PH the current version isn't early access, it's a closed beta where you pay to access an early version of the game, totally different. It's such an obvious loophole that I can only assume Valve just doesn't care which again makes them at least partially responsible.

 

[Vagician]

Patreon was never intended to be Kickstarter. Patreon is to support/gain access to existing content. Artists with regular release schedules who use it as a subscription service (like doujin artists) would have clear metrics to see if they're delivering on their promised subscription updates.

The only way I see this working for game development would be simple things with clear time windows and release dates. IE you can say "These 5 new animations will be released on May 5th". But it would need to be specific to bitch about them not delivering.
If they're like "We have so many plans! Better gameplay! More noises! New chicks! New dicks! Jizz with bacon bits!" no specifics, no deadlines. Throw money at disorganized projects, see sub-optimal results. Not surprising.

 

[SortaLewd]

mf playing bad cop and good cop at the same fucking time

Best to just not interact with the moderators there. Since the discord is the only place to get "information" on the game, you basically risk losing any insight on the game by talking because if you say something a moderator dislikes you might get muted, kicked, or banned. This isn't anything new and likely won't stop anytime soon. Having been in that server for a while Pasix is just saving face.

 

[Nihil5320]

I know that according to PH the current version isn't early access, it's a closed beta where you pay to access an early version of the game, totally different. It's such an obvious loophole that I can only assume Valve just doesn't care which again makes them at least partially responsible.

That's true but at least in Steam's case it's not something that they are profiting from so it's more likely a case of them just being reticent to be seen as trying to control content on third-party platforms, at worst it's just indifference as you say which is a lot better than Patreon's approach of designing their platform to encourage such outcomes.

I also complained to Steam back when FD mods used to share a link to a word document "FAQ" (super professional) that instructed users to buy on Patreon, which was a clear attempt to get around not being able to do it out in the open, and all such links got scrubbed and the behaviour stopped shortly thereafter so I suspect they do set some ground rules at least.

 

[HardcoreCuddler]

Best to just not interact with the moderators there. Since the discord is the only place to get "information" on the game, you basically risk losing any insight on the game by talking because if you say something a moderator dislikes you might get muted, kicked, or banned. This isn't anything new and likely won't stop anything soon. Having been in that server for a while Pasix is just saving face.

so kinda like when you're on a safari

 

[DMNDCE]

Best to just not interact with the moderators there. Since the discord is the only place to get "information" on the game, you basically risk losing any insight on the game by talking because if you say something a moderator dislikes you might get muted, kicked, or banned. This isn't anything new and likely won't stop anything soon. Having been in that server for a while Pasix is just saving face.

so kinda like when you're on a safari

I've never said a single word on the server. I saw them silencing people on Steam and I want access to the comedy show. It's just fun to watch the same few people jerk each other off in chat every day while everyone else who says anything remotely negative suddenly disappears.

Just watch the wild animals from a distance and give yourself a good laugh.

 

[xana94]

I've never said a single word on the server. I saw them silencing people on Steam and I want access to the comedy show. It's just fun to watch the same few people jerk each other off in chat every day while everyone else who says anything remotely negative suddenly disappears.

Just watch the wild animals from a distance and give yourself a good laugh.

You paid them?

 

[DMNDCE]

You paid them?

Yes, like many others here, we threw them some support back when there was an actual product to show. Years ago. Things have obviously changed since then and no one here supports them anymore.

 

[Futahar]

Yes, like many others here, we threw them some support back when there was an actual product to show. Years ago. Things have obviously changed since then and no one here supports them anymore.

Hey, at least we have all that in game currency for backing the game

 

[HardcoreCuddler]

Hey, at least we have all that in game currency for backing the game

may as well have alien money. those would probably pay us a visit earlier than they put out a proper release and you could trade with them.

 

[nierguyof]

never in my life have i played a game that blue screens and force restarts my laptop for merely changing the res... im in for a janky treat

 

[nierguyof]

VowVie, 5 secs in and it hard restarts my laptop again. 10/10 best optimized game of all tyme, gameplay so amazing that it refused to start and has me fear for my laptops safety