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SortaLewd

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Pretty sure it is the poor people who are most upset, actually. Just sayin'.
Assuming people are disappointed with this game because they're poor and can't afford it rather than the game being a genuine shitshow is some high level deflection lol. It's definitely not as if Helius has a history of abandoning past games and suffering development hell, surely not. Definitely isn't because of all the issues and back and forth claims, lack of proper communication, development switch ups, and all the dumb drama that occurred due to this game's development hell. It has to be an issue with the people, not the game itself.
 

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Assuming people are disappointed with this game because they're poor and can't afford it rather than the game being a genuine shitshow is some high level deflection lol. It's definitely not as if Helius has a history of abandoning past games and suffering development hell, surely not. Definitely isn't because of all the issues and back and forth claims, lack of proper communication, development switch ups, and all the dumb drama that occurred due to this game's development hell. It has to be an issue with the people, not the game itself.
This game has been in development for quite some time, the developers Project Helius apparently don't give a shit to continue progressing this game, or they are too busy trying to perfect features for the game. i still have hope and anticipations for this game although the likelihood of this game ever officially releasing doesn't look like that will be anytime soon.
 

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Pretty sure it is the poor people who are most upset, actually. Just sayin'.
Mate, it's not because you do have the money to pay for underdeveloped, overpriced bullshit that you should pay for underdeveloped, overpriced bullshit. Does not matter if its 35 or 100 bucks.
To me it sounds like you were born rich or you're that pesky middle class guy that thinks he's rich so he buys overpiced bullshit to convince others they have the money to do so, yknow? The kind of guy that would pay +100 dollars to have his steak covered in gold and glitter.
Do I have the money to pay for this game? Yeah, I do, will I? Never, I am two googles and a few clicks away from free porn.
 
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Pretty sure it is the poor people who are most upset, actually. Just sayin'.
:ROFLMAO: Just let rich people waste their money who care, there are tons of way to spend your time and or money way better than this "game" which isn't even a game to be honest, like you just have a few animations, even honey select 2 have way more content.

You don't like the dude behind this game and you don't like the way some people spend their money, pretty much everyone would agree with that but at the end of the day who care.
Some people out there are spending money on DSP you know :ROFLMAO:
 

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Some people out there are spending money on DSP you know :ROFLMAO:
And some people spends thousands on spacships JPEGs in Star Citizen.


Point is, sure, it's their money, they do what they want with it and so on and so forth, BUT :

- We have the right to criticize it
- We absolutely have the right to make fun of them
- We also have the right to let people know that the dev is an absolute grifter and thus participating in funding his grift isn't the best thing to do, 'cause, idk, other wannabe grifters will take note of people stupidity and do the same, and the adult games ecosystem definitely doesn't need more of that shit?

But maybe that's just me :Kappa:
 

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Finding out Magicami died out really put shit like this into perspective. Right now, the adult games "ecosystem" is so tumorous that, in order to be a game that has higher production value than the average erogame to survive, you kind of need to be as predatory as possible. The fact Magicami, a game that's surprisingly F2P all things considered, is going to be outlived by atrociously predatory, pay-to-win trash like King of Kinks and Cum & Gun solidifies this fact.

That's why we're seeing more erogachas with VIP systems with waifus locked behind the higher tiers, basically making it that you have to whale in order to unlock all the h-content. That's why we're now seeing a crowdfunded game force in a Free To Play monetization scheme despite clearly being unfinished. If they didn't, it would probably face a surprise death like Magicami did.

When it comes down to it, I doubt this game somehow getting by with the people duped into giving the devs the money that could have went to making the most powerful desktop computer you could have at the moment is going to do too much more damage to the "ecosystem" that hasn't already been done.

Like yes, we do still get one or two decent enough H-Games every year, but even most of those lack allot of the polish + production value Magicami had or what this game was selling itself to have. Even Illusion, blatantly cutting corners and making the same game but with different styles of Visual Novel busywork to get in the way of the porn, is still a bar that's barely been crossed because at least Koikatsu and Honey Select has basically become a pretty nifty tool for porn animations. I think the closest thing with comparable production value that hasn't imploded into itself from a lack of financial success or hasn't gone to the dark side has been Subverse and even then I remember that game being fairly divisive with people on this site.
 
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Here is my honest opinion on this game. i do believe that this game has great potential, but the developer "Project Helius" is taking more time trying to perfect the game rather than actually progress development for their game.
 
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Finding out Magicami died out really put shit like this into perspective. Right now, the adult games "ecosystem" is so tumorous that, in order to be a game that has higher production value than the average erogame to survive, you kind of need to be as predatory as possible. The fact Magicami, a game that's surprisingly F2P all things considered, is going to be outlived by atrociously predatory, pay-to-win trash like King of Kinks and Cum & Gun solidifies this fact.

That's why we're seeing more erogachas with VIP systems with waifus locked behind the higher tiers, basically making it that you have to whale in order to unlock all the h-content. That's why we're now seeing a crowdfunded game force in a Free To Play monetization scheme despite clearly being unfinished. If they didn't, it would probably face a surprise death like Magicami did.

When it comes down to it, I doubt this game somehow getting by with the people duped into giving the devs the money that could have went to making the most powerful desktop computer you could have at the moment is going to do too much more damage to the "ecosystem" that hasn't already been done.

Like yes, we do still get one or two decent enough H-Games every year, but even most of those lack allot of the polish + production value Magicami had or what this game was selling itself to have. Even Illusion, blatantly cutting corners and making the same game but with different styles of Visual Novel busywork to get in the way of the porn, is still a bar that's barely been crossed because at least Koikatsu and Honey Select has basically become a pretty nifty tool for porn animations. I think the closest thing with comparable production value that hasn't imploded into itself from a lack of financial success or hasn't gone to the dark side has been Subverse and even then I remember that game being fairly divisive with people on this site.


are u belong to mgcm discord ?
 

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I do agree with what you say, mind you.
I'm just being sarcastic and joking about it, it's all
thank you for agreeing with me. so back to the topic, when do you think this game is going to officially release? i have been waiting for about 2 years for this game and the game's development hasn't really went anywhere.
 

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when i first started the launch.bat cracked version, it wanted me to put in a profile name, i just used "test" to continue and see what happens. it also asked about changing controls somewhere too. anyway, i cant seem to get back there, just stuck on this profile, but id like to change the controls and maybe see what other options i might have skipped past. is there a way to log out? also, can you adjust outfits and hair color in harem mode?
 

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Realistically their previous game was this game, it's been one long (seriously: nearing a decade now) development slog with not much to show for it.

Renaming the game and changing direction halfway through doesn't really constitute a completely different game imo especially given that the theme is exactly the same and they recycled a lot of code and assets.
It seemed like the previous Fallen Doll had a fairly clear idea of what it was going to be and was developed a decent amount where it was left off. Meanwhile, this version of Fallen Doll is just now starting to catch up in terms of content. Helius himself kept going back and forth on the direction this game was going to take going by some of his posts in the Discord server. So idk, I'd consider this version of Fallen Doll a separate game and the previous version abandoned. The way the two versions of Fallen Doll played is also completely different, one being completely single-player and already having an established gameplay loop, while this version has Helius going back and forth on whether he's sticking to multiplayer only or adding a single-player mode(and considering how progression is dependent on other players in Operation Lovecraft, he'll have to come up with some way to make progress while playing alone). And then there's still the Combat Drills game mode that hasn't been demonstrated at all...
 

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It seemed like the previous Fallen Doll had a fairly clear idea of what it was going to be and was developed a decent amount where it was left off. Meanwhile, this version of Fallen Doll is just now starting to catch up in terms of content. Helius himself kept going back and forth on the direction this game was going to take going by some of his posts in the Discord server. So idk, I'd consider this version of Fallen Doll a separate game and the previous version abandoned. The way the two versions of Fallen Doll played is also completely different, one being completely single-player and already having an established gameplay loop, while this version has Helius going back and forth on whether he's sticking to multiplayer only or adding a single-player mode(and considering how progression is dependent on other players in Operation Lovecraft, he'll have to come up with some way to make progress while playing alone). And then there's still the Combat Drills game mode that hasn't been demonstrated at all...
I agree the direction has completely changed and I'd certainly consider them different games if they'd finished the first one, but I think the key is that it happened mid-development. Even ownership carried over with anyone who subbed whilst it was FD still getting their subs counted toward paralogue/OL.

To me it seems more akin to something like Halo which was, at different points in development, an RTT then a third person shooter and finally a first person shooter. I wouldn't consider them to have been making three different games over them making a single game that went through considerable changes. The only difference here is that the builds are public, the developer is less competent in their execution and the changes in question are not really good ones.

I guess either way you want to look at it Helius has been working on making a game for ~9 years and all he has to show for it are two partially implemented prototypes.
 
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