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So, is this game is actually going to be what the original premise was, or is it just a glorified scene viewever? There were promises or rogue-like and stuff, but I haven’t found any gameplay.
I'd rather have them not waste the time to develop any gameplay. I have never seen any porn game that actually plays good, and if it indeed plays good the creator will soon turn it into all age for wider audience (such as fate stay night) so why bother.So, is this game is actually going to be what the original premise was, or is it just a glorified scene viewever? There were promises or rogue-like and stuff, but I haven’t found any gameplay.
Same. I've never understood this. Almost all major porn games are just porn, not gameplay. This is what Illusion is famous for, too. If you wanted actual gameplay you would play a typical video game, instead.I'd rather have them not waste the time to develop any gameplay. I have never seen any porn game that actually plays good, and if it indeed plays good the creator will soon turn it into all age for wider audience (such as fate stay night) so why bother.
That's exactly why almost all major porn games are shitty games. If you just want to watch actual porn exists, so go watch those videos. I'll never understand mindset of people who come into "Adult Games" forum and defend "games" that aren't more than a sex animation viewer.Same. I've never understood this. Almost all major porn games are just porn, not gameplay. This is what Illusion is famous for, too. If you wanted actual gameplay you would play a typical video game, instead.
No, that's a good argument. People are sick and tired of good looking 3d games turning into yet another cash grab animation viewer. People want good looking AND actually enjoyable porn games. Ever wondered why people are modding skyrim and sims, turning them into porn games? It is because there is not a single decent looking 3d porn game worth playing.I've always assumed the "scene viewer" complaint was just by those who wanted to vent and not a real intended argument, because it it was intended as such... oh boy where do we even start.
"if they had more budget and manpower", you basically answered your own question. Have you thought about the reason why the developers who actually focus on gameplay are mostly tight on budget and porn viewer makers can swim in cash? The reason is simple: the majority of paying customers don't give a shit about how good the gameplay is in a porn game, it's the quality of porn that make them pay. It all boils down to the principle of economics: the financial return of making gameplay is negative, no matter how important you claim it to be.There are one man made or small studio made porn games and some of them have solid gameplay. I can only imagine what developers of those games would've made if they had more budget and manpower. Solas City Heroes, Eris Dysnomia, Holy Knight Ricca, Karryn's Prison, Lona RPG, Station Master, Monster Girl Dreams, Goblin Burrow, Last Evil... I've played all of them, not only they are porn but they are also games and good ones at that so if you are going for "it is impossible to create a good porn game" argument don't bother.
You can't prove any of those claims though. For example:"if they had more budget and manpower", you basically answered your own question. Have you thought about the reason why the developers who actually focus on gameplay are tight on budget and porn viewer makers can swim in cash? The reason is simple: the majority of paying customers don't give a shit about how good the gameplay is in a porn game, it's the quality of porn that make them pay. It all boils down to the principle of economics: the financial return of making gameplay is negative.
But does slay the spire have porn? If I am looking for a porn game why would I play slay the spire when last evil exists?Not to mention that gameplay wise those examples you gave are all shitty compared with sfw games of similar theme, genre, budget and price (Lona RPG - elona, Last Evil - Slay the Spire, etc), it's only rational that most people would just download saves to unlock all the porn and forget about the rest.
Basically all games have people who ask for 100% save files. That's not exclusive to porn games. What is your point?Basically all porn games have a gallery for a reason: we all know that time is better spent elsewhere.
lmao you are dense. The logic is so simple: if focusing on gameplay brings in revenue efficiently (your hypothetical "thousands of people might've decided to not support said games precisely because they lack gameplay" really buy or are willing to support the porn games with elaborated gameplay), those cash grabbers and patron milkers you hate fiercely would be updating their project's gameplay monthly instead of cramming more porn into their "glorified sex animation viewer", and the majority of successful porn games would be featuring good gameplay instead of visual novel and animation player now. Alas, this is apparently not the case in reality, there's not even a trance of trend pointing to that direction.You can't prove any of those claims though. For example:
"majority of paying customers don't give a shit about how good the gameplay is in a porn game"
How can you know that? You can't. And for all you know thousands of people might've decided to not support said games precisely because they lack gameplay. Your point is moot.
Why the hell play a low quality STS copycat in order to earn tidbits of low quality porn at all? It sounds outright pathetic. To each their own, I guess.But does slay the spire have porn? If I am looking for a porn game why would I play slay the spire when last evil exists?
Yeah, they would do it because cash grabbers are known for their efforts for actually finishing their gamesthose cash grabbers and patron milkers you hate fiercely would be updating their project's gameplay
>willingly comes into "Adult Games" forumWhy the hell play a low quality STS copycat in order to earn tidbits of low quality porn at all? It sounds outright pathetic. To each their own, I guess.
Why the hell play a low quality STS copycat in order to earn tidbits of low quality porn at all? It sounds outright pathetic.>willingly comes into "Adult Games" forum
>why would anyone want to play a porn game it sounds outright pathetic
Why would anyone want to watch a porn game, it sounds outright pathetic. To each their own, I guess.
Thanks, here's the fixed version of previous post:Why the hell play a low quality STS copycat in order to earn tidbits of low quality porn at all? It sounds outright pathetic.
I added highlights in this sentence for you in case you still have difficulties understanding. You are welcome.
This logic doesn't seem that simple and can also be inverted relatively easily: if pure animation viewer approaches were more profitable then wouldn't the majority of adult games adopt this model?lmao you are dense. The logic is so simple: if focusing on gameplay brings in revenue efficiently (your hypothetical "thousands of people might've decided to not support said games precisely because they lack gameplay" really buy or are willing to support the porn games with elaborated gameplay), those cash grabbers and patron milkers you hate fiercely would be updating their project's gameplay monthly instead of cramming more porn into their "glorified sex animation viewer"
This logic doesn't seem that simple and can also be inverted relatively easily: if pure animation viewer approaches were more profitable then wouldn't the majority of adult games adopt this model?
Are you living in a parallel universe? The majority of adult games are indeed like I said visual novels and animation players, which hardly have any gameplay (if clicking through dialogues is some sort of gameplay).the majority of successful porn games would be featuring good gameplay instead of visual novel and animation player now. Alas, this is apparently not the case in reality, there's not even a trance of trend pointing to that direction.
Majority isn't visual novels and animation players.Are you living in a parallel universe? The majority of adult games are indeed like I said visual novels and animation players, which hardly have any gameplay (if clicking through dialogues is some sort of gameplay).
bruh is F95 your entire world? I almost feel pity.Majority isn't visual novels and animation players.
This site allows you see how many visual novels novels it has compared to other games, look at the results:
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And "animation players" are also few but since they don't have a tag there is no way to know their exact numbers. But if you go to latest updates page and filter tag:"3d game" then sort them by views or likes the first page results should only have these "animation viewers" out of 30 results:
Out of 30 results for "3d game" just 5 of them are animation viewers. If that's any indication even the combination of "animation viewers" and virtual novels don't make up the majority of games on this site.
- Wild Life
- Fallen Doll
- Honey Select 2
- Virt A Mate
- Home Together
This game is a touch older than 3 years, the Patreon launched in 2016 and it existed before that. Daisy in Summer (the first prototype) was 2015. Development probably started in 2014 when Epic changed their licensing for UE but it was solely on ZOD Forum at that point.Okay, I got quite a good answer: The consumers who paid for the patreon promises are now seething that "it's just a scene viewer bro, we don't need more." Years after years of work for a scene viewer? You guys are really high on copium.
EDIT: and before anyone rushes over to the reply button, crying "b-but the other scene viewers!", a bunch of them listed above have gameplay attached. This game is what... 3 years old now? Since the first release, and I don't even know when was the first development message... so you're basically saying that you waited 3+ years for a handful of characters, some clothing options and a rotating camera around the scenes? Bruh.
This site also has untranslated games and a genre that basically only exists in japan literally doesn't change anything. My point still stands, either present your own stats like I did or continue coping...bruh is F95 your entire world? I almost feel pity.
Do you know a genre called galgame exists? Most of porn games in visual novel form have not been translated into English due to the sheer volume of texts and are not in this forum.
Is this the trial version? Many animations are missing compared to the Prologue versionNo, v0.4.9 is the latest cracked.
If you took a few seconds to check any of the last few pages you would find out why.
Denuvo DRM
Server Auth
Coomers ripping out the literal excel spreadsheet to prove that years of paying for a scene viewer actually worth itThis site also has untranslated games and a genre that basically only exists in japan literally doesn't change anything. My point still stands, either present your own stats like I did or continue coping...