Unreal Engine Fallen Doll: Operation Lovecraft [v0.4.9 Cracked] [Project Helius]

[Echo82]

This game is gonna be like porn xcom yeah? Seems like a lot of work but 15 mil deal? Damn where is the dosh coming from, patreon?

 

[benisfug]

Why would project helius even announce this without mentioning a name? Why would the one leaving the project not announce this himself? Nobody knows who is working for him and nobody knows what they were or still are working on, specifically.
Just look at other patreon-financed games. Those will never leave their community in the dark.

I remember a game called Divine Arms having the artist quit and instead of putting the game on hold the guy who ran the project kept payments going to string people along promising he was going to use the money to train a new artist, before canceling it and moving on to a different game. Eromancer was also infamous for stringing people along with promised updates that never came. It's not unheard of.

 

[Nguyen Viet Thai]

Well, money turn them into what they are now. Eromancer back when they new was very promising and delivered content frequently but after we shoved them too much money they changed. Project Helius now follow. Well to be honest it is possibly our fault for completely trusting them and gave them huge amount of money in hope they make the game better, but actually make thing worse because the devs realized how naive we are thus doing thing we now all known. Did they learn from Star Citizen 0.0

 

[tropomien]

I know friend, the artis who work for project. According to him, i could tell that game was invested a lot,. However, like some people in here, It hard to say this game will be finish or going like Star Citizen, we not sure about it!!

 

[loler69]

Well, money turn them into what they are now. Eromancer back when they new was very promising and delivered content frequently but after we shoved them too much money they changed. Project Helius now follow. Well to be honest it is possibly our fault for completely trusting them and gave them huge amount of money in hope they make the game better, but actually make thing worse because the devs realized how naive we are thus doing thing we now all known. Did they learn from Star Citizen 0.0

"Honestly its possibly our fault", its never the responsibility of the consumer what the devs decide to do, if they got a massive amount of support, its their own responsibility to meet that expectation. If not, they could have easily stopped patreon.

The consumer shouldnt have to have trust issues with devs, its just the shitty devs that take advantage. If this project gets abandon and they run off with the money, itd be shitty for all the people who gave money to them, but in no way would it be their fault.

 

[Nguyen Viet Thai]

"Honestly its possibly our fault", its never the responsibility of the consumer what the devs decide to do, if they got a massive amount of support, its their own responsibility to meet that expectation. If not, they could have easily stopped patreon.

The consumer shouldnt have to have trust issues with devs, its just the shitty devs that take advantage. If this project gets abandon and they run off with the money, itd be shitty for all the people who gave money to them, but in no way would it be their fault.

No, i mean that, if we not give them so much money like that, they will be pressure to actually delivering the content. I saw it everytime. at first when the support was low, they actually release content; but after a sudden bloom in support and porpularity, they start their "scam".

 

[grunt_pepper]

"Honestly its possibly our fault", its never the responsibility of the consumer what the devs decide to do, if they got a massive amount of support, its their own responsibility to meet that expectation. If not, they could have easily stopped patreon.

While that is true to a degree, it's also true that the costumer is at fault if they reward bad practices with continued financial support.

You see the same pattern repeat on Pateron time and again:

1. someone makes a project
2. project gets popular and starts receiving money
3. the work ethic of the developer decreases proportionally to the amount of money people are pledging

Eventually you end up with a developer who does the bare minimum of work to keep up the pretence the project is still being worked on and the cash flowing in - usually accompanied with the exact same litany of excuses: personal and family issues, health issues, hardware problems etc.

As loler69 said, if supporters threatened to stop supporting the dev if a reasonable release schedule was not maintained you'd see the developers sing a very different tune.

But as they say, a sucker is born every minute, and suckers are the reason MTX, lootboxes, pay2win and other such exploitative business models exist and allow companies to rake in ridiculous amounts of cash.

 

[jazon1]

When the announced Harem mode, they stated that it would be linked to Patreon for user authentication. They didn't know who would be their distributor of the game and they do not plan to do that their selves. Data transmission cost money. Example: Data transmission, in an AWS region, is free. Once data leave the region, Amazon will charge for transmission out side of the AWS Region. So DLSite and XVideos have agreed to host the game for distribution. Steam finally agreed to do so and the game entered alpha testing with their devs only having access. There was a video released to show this off. But with people having left the team, ProjectH being wishy washy about the 15 mil deal, and no word on when exactly the CBT (closed beta test) will take place, who knows. I am one of the few people, on f95, that are very pro supporters of this project. I subbed for a good while and I active watch their Discord while at work. But I am bitter that I was charged this month and they have not been firm with the CBT date, let alone narrow time frame. There will be no charge, on my card, next month. I'm not going to be the durak walking the streets and smiling for no reason.

Yea im pretty much in the same boat,month after month of being told something should be out of steam then days after they said the game would be on steam they say someone offered 15 mil but they didnt take it..then still no game on steam,
like being offered the 15 mil somehow excused them not putting the game out when they said it would be out. then months of next to nothing but teasers,personally i have 0 interest in the harem mode but im not interested in jerking off to other men with female avatars but thats just me, at this point im assuming the last beta build will be the last one i play unless they actually start working on the single player mode again.

 

[jazon1]

While that is true to a degree, it's also true that the costumer is at fault if they reward bad practices with continued financial support.

You see the same pattern repeat on Pateron time and again:

1. someone makes a project
2. project gets popular and starts receiving money
3. the work ethic of the developer decreases proportionally to the amount of money people are pledging

Eventually you end up with a developer who does the bare minimum of work to keep up the pretence the project is still being worked on and the cash flowing in - usually accompanied with the exact same litany of excuses: personal and family issues, health issues, hardware problems etc.

As loler69 said, if supporters threatened to stop supporting the dev if a reasonable release schedule was not maintained you'd see the developers sing a very different tune.

But as they say, a sucker is born every minute, and suckers are the reason MTX, lootboxes, pay2win and other such exploitative business models exist and allow companies to rake in ridiculous amounts of cash.

i agree with you 100% tho i do do a bit of 3d modeling and have been around some creators and understand as your game gets bigger so does the list of repairs/maintenance gets bigger so looks like your doing less each update,but that said while this game has some of the most impressive graphics i have seen i belive they have made a massive mistake going with this harem mode instead of what people were backing them for.

it would be like backing a batman game and then getting a game about starwars instead after a year or more of funding them. i also think that they have been dangling a carrot far to long with nothing offered to their supporters i mean how long has it been since that last beta build? and each month its just "we should have something on steam hopefully by the end of the month"

 

[StevieJobs]

Big yikes. Feels like they're just trying to pump up the drama at this point to try and draw attention away from the fact that the beta still hasn't been released.

What is this idiot talking about? Now artists "sell themselves" when they want to begin a career in the videogame industry? I just feel sad for all the people that have put money on this for all these years. This game will not be finished, just like Wild Life.

 

[Krosos]

It's sad but the Money is where all those addicted Mobile Kids are

 

[grunt_pepper]

i agree with you 100% tho i do do a bit of 3d modeling and have been around some creators and understand as your game gets bigger so does the list of repairs/maintenance gets bigger so looks like your doing less each update

I fully agree with this statement - I didn't mean to imply contnet creators can run their project like clockwork - content creation and software development are notoriously unpredictable in terms of what can be achieved and when - hence why I added "reasonable" next to "release schedule."

they have made a massive mistake going with this harem mode instead of what people were backing them for

In a bit of irony it's the same way Star Citizen eventually ended up becoming what it is today. The initial pitch, and what people actually paid Roberts for, was to make a single-player game, but as Roberts kept promising more and more, and as the money kept pouring it, the project eventually morphed into the monstrosity it is today.

And as it turns out, it's more profitable for Roberts to keep the project in perpetual development than to actually release a finished product.

I think the same logic applies to many porn projects on Patreon, especially ones raking in the most money, like Wild Life and Fallen Doll - the longer they can keep selling people the Dream, the longer they can keep making money with minimal effort.

I remember looking at the current state of Wild Life a month back after nearly a year of ignoring the project, and basically nothing had changed - there still was no gameplay loop, there still was no actual content - the project can barely be called a tech demo. What exactly have the developers been doing in those 12 months?

Same thing with Fallen Doll, but at least Fallen Doll has some amount of content users can enjoy - though it's nowhere near what the asking price may be.

 

[pinkscott]

So I read that this game has noncon... how does that work? From what I understand campaign is completely sfw and it doesn't contain combat sex

 

[andrejandrej9]

is there anything new about the game? any information? from their discord channel maybe?

 

[VengefulKron]

is there anything new about the game? any information? from their discord channel maybe?

Nope, the latest update on Discord is just the front cover image for the game. Somehow though we're 3 days away from October and ProjectH still can't commit to a release date. I feel bad for anyone that's still blindly pledging to them.

 

[Krosos]

I don't think it's a hoax at least not the simulation part (harem mode) the Gameplay part they really need to show something of the X-com Style Gameplay with Cards (jesus a drawing board game gameplay of course ready optimized perfectly for mobile play, touch interface) sooner than later.
It seems in no way connected to the Gameplay it's like 2 things on the same IP and you can't reuse that much as only the basics for one of it the other needs a complete different interface at first, see Subverse round based Strategy Integration into a VN ontop (typical Japanese VN Gameplay Design Methodology put something beneath the VN which feels more like Mini Gameplay).
It's doable but you really have to ask the question why you invest into 2 different paths if you could gather the resources more efficiently for one of them.
It would be no real problem at all i even said it would be a good idea if Wild Life dev would do this based on their IP but the thing is jesus show something of it more than just a Map Design but actual prototype Gameplay and do not announce it if it isn't ready at all to be shown
Instead they showed some nice Unreal Cutscene which showcases the partys but overall has nothing todo with the real Gameplay and most probably is far away of how it will be visualized to the point that it is very questionable if you will see such a Cutscene as part of the Gameplay ever at all

And now they seem to lose someone of the top talents the Guy who Designs part of the IP which seems QI WU has done all his 3D Models based on either QI WU or this Concept Artist who created this Sci-Fi Designs i bet Tencent payed really well for him he is practically one of the Key parts of the IP.
QI WU is maybe also the Concept Artist i dunno really but those Designs are just awesome but QI WU alone is so talented even making those concept Art become 3D Reality.

And i fully understand why Tencent want's the guy responsible for it at all costs he has a much higher value then this whole project coming up with such a awesome IP world Design.

 

[Levy88]

Nope, the latest update on Discord is just the front cover image for the game. Somehow though we're 3 days away from October and ProjectH still can't commit to a release date. I feel bad for anyone that's still blindly pledging to them.

Yeah, they won't drop that until the new month so everyone gets charged again.

 

[user0609]

Yeah, they won't drop that until the new month* so everyone gets charged again.

*next year

 

[user0609]

game is still in a mess, even for alpha, now they lose core team members, that's what we call karma, no one wanted this harem mode, now without concept art creator PH can no longer cheat people with "new_skimpy_outfit.png" Almost all outfits (and characters) are still in concept art state.

 

[HardcoreCuddler]

you guys think I should decide wether to buy it based on how the first release works or wait some more? I'm a bit torn on this...I don't want to decide on it now and regret it later but neither do I want to wait until they shut their servers down lmao