It doesn't matter who she is now. Why should the MC trust her as friend when she fucked him over as his girlfriend. Also the MC doesn't need her all he really needs is to forgive himself for being an idiot to ever trust her in the first place
Hey i'm okay with forgiving and moving on It's only animal nature to do things that fuck up other people along with yourself
We all make mistakes
But hey I don't want your friendship its done deal and I don't wanna see you again like the MC said in the morning
and it's normal to have phobia of certain something after that certain something happens but if it's frequent you get over it
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Well one of the reason i defend her a lot was actually because one of my friend has his ex as a best friend now and its working smoothly, but i guess you're just one of the person that doesn't believe in change.
No it isn't in fact what was unfair was Ava treating the MC as a friend when he literally told her to never speak to him again because of what she did. Then she adds insult to injury by getting pissy at him for not responding the way she wanted.
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Aaaand ur also one of the person who don't believe in change, i guess MC can go back to just having Annie as a friend on this dark times when he needs help huh?
Well different people have different principles A man is nothing without those and It doesn't work for me but if it works for someone else then good for him and did that ex cheated on him and ended things badly? and no i don't think people can change but they can adapt
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Woah, that was definitely wrong interpretation of her face, She CLEARLY have a look of guilt when she says " i-i should go" before stormming off, i don't know where u get that from.
Not at all but I need to see that someone has changed before they even get a hint of a second chance. That will probably change with Ava in future releases but until it does all you have is conjecture on what might be whilst everyone else is judging her on what we have seen so far.
I dont wanna forgive Ava at all but I 1000000000000% wanna redate her
Yeah after he gets upset because she asks is that it. Easy to feel guilty when you're called out on your bullshit.
Ah, okay... Why should we give a fuck if she has changed? Why should the MC? Who the fuck cares if the cheater has moved on with her life and is in a better place?
As I said she can be forgiven but that doesn't mean the MC should want to hang out with her. Forgiveness doesn't mean they have to be friends. And she won't care about him more than Annie. At least Annie has been around (if sporadically). Ava cheated, left, and would never have seen the MC ever again if not for this coincidental meeting.
Why are you so invested in Ava? There is NOTHING to base a good opinion of her on right now yet you continue to defend her... We know that the MC and Ava dated for 3 months prior to the party, she found it exciting to make out in public, she had some type of substance abuse issue, she had a poor relationship with her mom, she went to a party and drank and smoked after promising she wouldn't, she then cheated on the MC, once caught she attempted the tried and true "it's not what it looks like" excuse, and then the relationship ended.
Where do these "good vibes" of yours come from? Ava can be forgiven, I've no problem saying that, however saying that she will care for the MC more than Annie or that she would give the MC a kidney... There's nothing to indicate anything like that. In reality we have no idea what she was going to say to the MC on the rooftop, for all we know she was going to call him out for being a whiney bitch.
I 1000000000000% wanna redate her CUZ IMMA CHEAT ON HER ASS
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Even worse, i also have guilt on it because i was in the party but i didn't see her being seduced by other man, tommorow morning i was furious at her after knowing she cheated on my friend, so i called my friend to see his bitch girlfriend and i don't wanna get into detail but things got ugly, then they broke up, luckily my friend was a person that was loyal and loving to a girl but not really in the level of obsession, so he move on from her relatively quick. Until 3 years ago when the bitch have the courage to call him and ask for a coffee, my friend said she was crying for half an hour and it really make my friend embarassed. after seeing how sorry she was my friend forgave her and he invite her to my house, i was of course furious at first but after getting persuaded i say yes and i finally see the new side of her, it's one of my favorite lesson in life tbh and everyday i thank to god that that shit didn't happen to me, the bitch would've probably be dead. Also fun fact we tease her about crying for half an hour here and there and she definitely didn't like it lol.
Bruh like I said before it's easier to gulp down the expired milk at home than to get up go to the store and spend a dollar and get a fresh one
And it is even easier in real life than in some VN ahhaha seen it lotta times and it's only getting more frequent each day what a time we live in mate XD
Probably more mature than my initial reaction to being cheated on but no doubt less fun. Sure my wife is grateful though considering she's her sister.
Yeah, I guess you're right.
I'd rather work a bit harder to get something new and fresh. Which is why I would rather that the MC have a third option instead of "friend who hasn't been around much and never had a thing for him" or "woman who cheated on him but is now in a better place in her life".
Being friends with a former ex-girlfriend may be possible but it isn't likely or common IRL. I can forgive a betrayal but you never forget a betrayal. I just don't see any reason the MC would date Ava now. He can be glad that she's moved on and is no longer a cheater, that's a long way from wanting to give her the chance to betray him again.
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That's the thing, the dev only threw bad stuff from her on her past self but we didn't know anything about her in the present, if she changes to be a good friend than it is good for MC to have one more friend in this really hard time, Aren't the point of the game is to escape from depression and make MC a better person? then isn't trying to get help and confronting the past one of the step?
what are you saying dude your in law cheated on you? XD
You can "confront" the past without actually seeing the people from your past. I know that shit firsthand from my own battles.
And no, the MC doesn't need her as a friend. Friends don't get you through the darkness, that's a journey that you have to take alone. People can give you a reason to fight but in the end it is the MC's battle to win. Having Ava there can actually make it worse, he may have been fighting a completely different battle - his depression may be focused on Sam's death (or someone else's) and now being confronted by the memories of how Ava destroyed his trust could make him plunge deeper into depression. Reminding him of that failure, making him wonder if he will ever be happy, etc.
Ava's presence isn't needed for him to move on from those feelings, having her there can just make everything worse.
Forgiveness can be earned, that doesn't mean they should be friends.
Nah wife is my ex girlfriends sister. Caught her bed with some chode and got the it's not what it looks like bollocks. So I beat him up dropped her ass and spent a month fucking or trying to fuck every female friend she had. Moved on then 2 years later I bumped into her sister we hit it off and have now been married for almost 15 years.