VN Ren'Py Abandoned Fallen Roads [v0.2] [Boketto Games]

[clowns234]

I do not know if you are an alt account of the dev, or some friend of the dev trying to make people like how the story is presented (I say that because that account was created the day the update came out and the only comments it has are in this game, trying to make 2 potential LIs look good ...), but you don't need to try so hard to get people to see potential LIs in a good way, nor do we have to feel sorry for them as a person , not because the game may have now a rape scene will change how Ava was seen in the previous update, although the situation of what (apparently) happened is bad, it is not as if she did not know the environment she was going to or who were there and Annie's attitude (?) is quite doubtful omitting that she decides to believe the story of a stranger and recriminate Mc

I don't think this game is about LIs. And I think that is the problem most people have because they assume it is. And why wouldn't they? Almost every other game out there is geared towards fucking as many women as you can.

"If she was raped, I should feel sorry for her - but I don't want to feel sorry for her because she made all those bad choices. Now I feel bad either way? Fuck this shit! I should just walk away. But yet I'm still here because now it bugs me."
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[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I do not know if you are an alt account of the dev, or some friend of the dev trying to make people like how the story is presented (I say that because that account was created the day the update came out and the only comments it has are in this game, trying to make 2 potential LIs look good ...), but you don't need to try so hard to get people to see potential LIs in a good way, nor do we have to feel sorry for them as a person , not because the game may have now a rape scene will change how Ava was seen in the previous update, although the situation of what (apparently) happened is bad, it is not as if she did not know the environment she was going to or who were there and Annie's attitude (?) is quite doubtful omitting that she decides to believe the story of a stranger and recriminate Mc

let's all just take it easy I have problems with the game two big problems but there's no reason for us to start fighting with each other let's keep the discussion about the game

 

[TheYoungBuck]

I don't think this game is about LIs. And I think that is the problem most people have because they assume it is. And why wouldn't they? Almost every other game out there is geared towards fucking as many women as you can.

"If she was raped, I should feel sorry for her - but I don't want to feel sorry for her because she made all those bad choices. Now I feel bad either way? Fuck this shit! I should just walk away. But yet I'm still here because now it bugs me."
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That's a good point. This VN has barely had lewd scenes but it is heavy on the story. I just think most people here aren't used to it. There's also the whole rising and falling system, so I'm assuming there's a lot to be explored with MC's depression

 

[Qoo-Rilla]

Here are two LI. So if I get hope, then I hope they are a shop milf as well as a priest sister. They haven’t been introduced properly yet and I hope for them in the main bitch role. At the same time, I can say goodbye to those two Ellie and Ava.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

I think you got to squint really hard, or turn your head away to not see what has been laid plainly before us as far as the LI's go.

But we are at the point of beating a dead horse here. It looks like its about 9 to 1 in favor of... "Holy Shit, we went from interesting game/concept in Ep1 to - What the fuck is the DEV trying to pull on us with these cheating/un-trustworthy LI's? Pretty quickly.

I mean, seriously, the best option now is to just say, "Ava, Annie, you guys go on ahead without me, I'm gonna chill here with the Priest's sister... "

wait wait are you talking about the girl in the shower I thought that was the preacher's wife so I ignore her because I don't fuck married women but if that is the preacher sister then I think I just found best girl

 

[PJWhoopie]

Not sure how to respond to "Its not about LI's", I think I know what you mean, but

"is about a depressed young male who goes on a road trip with his childhood best friend and encounters situations and people that force him to re-evaluate his perception on life itself.
This story is mainly centered around these characters, finding out who they are, how they ended up here, and what the future has in store for them. You will become emotionally attached to them and hopefully empathize with them. You will feel both their joy, and their pain.
If it is not already obvious, this game will have mental health undertones, but will still be sprinkled with humors moments. The goal is to remain fairly grounded in reality and to avoid the clichés many Adult Visual Novels contain. "

Maybe its a semantics issue, in the sense I think that most folks are using LI to refer to Annie and Ava collectively.

So far, the "You will become emotionally attached to them" is the part that is not working out - for most of us. What we are saying, is that the way things were presented, it is making it difficult to make that attachment, thus empathizing with them.

Also, there seems to be concern about how well it is grounded in reality.

 

[TheYoungBuck]

I don't know if they'll be main LIs, since they're not on the menu screen. But it would be interesting

wait wait are you talking about the girl in the shower I thought that was the preacher's wife so I ignore her because I don't fuck married women but if that is the preacher sister then I think I just found best girl

Yeah if you tell her you're there, you get a gallery image. I don't know if she'll be a main though. Seems like a side thing as far as I can see

 

[wdf]

I know Bryce was told Ava wasn't interested in him, and he slipped a molly in her drink, planned to rape her, and went in the room she was sleeping without her consent, was stopped by Ava and told she has a bf, BUT YOU KNO WHAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS? Ava went to a party where there are guys who are attracted to her. She should have KNOWN she gon get raped. I mean she's a girl in her early 20's trying to have fun and meet new people. Unforgiveable, what a slut, shame. Should have never went outside.

People are fucking weird here.

I enjoyed the game and like the renders and animations. The tone of the story and atmosphere is different so I'm not rushing for scenes like Manila Shaw but I like it. Lots of different but hot girls. Looking forward to future updates.

 

[Avaron1974]

I'm not trying to force people anything, I'm just talking. What's the point of a forum if we can't discuss how we feel?

All well and good in and of itself ..... except...

If all this were true, and you would still shit on Ava, then I don't know what to say about you as a person.

This VN has barely had lewd scenes but it is heavy on the story. I just think most people here aren't used to it.

Seems we can only discuss something if we agree with your opinion. You're obviously the only one here that cares about story, the rest of us just aren't used to it. I mean, it's not like we haven't got pages of people discussing that very story but people seem to have a very different opinion to you and just what does that say about them?

 

[Norman Knight]

I know Bryce was told Ava wasn't interested in him, and he slipped a molly in her drink, planned to rape her, and went in the room she was sleeping without her consent, was stopped by Ava and told she has a bf, BUT YOU KNO WHAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS? Ava went to a party where there are guys who are attracted to her. She should have KNOWN she gon get raped. I mean she's a girl in her early 20's trying to have fun and meet new people. Unforgiveable, what a slut, shame. Should have never went outside.

People are fucking weird here.

I enjoyed the game and like the renders and animations. The tone of the story and atmosphere is different so I'm not rushing for scenes like Manila Shaw but I like it. Lots of different but hot girls. Looking forward to future updates.

Someone wasn't paying attention to the plot.

If that's all you got from playing the game then, what can I say, you missed the mark my dude.

 

[eddie987]

A recovering drug addict decided to go to a party hosted by her former dealer. There she decided it's ok to drink and smoke whatever they were smoking. Who would have thought that something might go wrong...

It really baffles me there are people acting like she did everything right and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 

[Havenless_]

Not sure how to respond to "Its not about LI's", I think I know what you mean, but

"... This story is mainly centered around these characters, finding out who they are, how they ended up here, and what the future has in store for them. You will become emotionally attached to them and hopefully empathize with them. You will feel both their joy, and their pain.

So far, the "You will become emotionally attached to them" is the part that is not working out - for most of us. What we are saying, is that the way things were presented, it is making it difficult to make that attachment, thus empathizing with them.

You got it fucking right, boss.

I mean, what is the main purpose that we play adult visual novels for? To see some porn and sex for sure.
Now what is the reason we play "realistic" VN, with drama and romance? Besides sex, we play for the plot and for the characters. Love Interests, mainly. To try to empathize with them and in my case, put myself in the MC's shoes. Knowing clearly differences between a game and reality. So, yeah. What's the point of playing romantic adult visual novels if you don't give a damn about the characters?

If I want a drama-only story, I'll start playing Life is Strange. (One of my favorite games, btw. lol)

That's the thing. The overview specifies that the story focuses on the characters, that we will see ourselves attached to them and, hopefully, empathize with them. Currently, as we have seen the characters, it is very difficult to feel empathy for them. If not impossible.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

Someone wasn't paying attention to the plot.

If that's all you got from playing the game then, what can I say, you missed the mark my dude.

Dayumn......shots fired. Love it

 

[UncleFredo]

A recovering drug addict decided to go to a party hosted by her former dealer. There she decided it's ok to drink and smoke whatever they were smoking. Who would have thought that something might go wrong...

It really baffles me there are people acting like she did everything right and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Her lack of judgement, assuming we agree that occurred, doesn't mitigate in the least the criminal behavior of anyone who took advantage of her reduced situational awareness. Especially since he acted to keep her within range, assuming of course that what is implied so far actually occurred.

Devs you've pushed this VN into a very ugly space. I recommend a great deal of caution as to how you proceed, especially since it's far too late for us, through the MC, to mitigate things.

 

[eddie987]

Her lack of judgement, assuming we agree that occurred, doesn't mitigate in the least the criminal behavior of anyone who took advantage of her reduced situational awareness. Especially since he acted to keep her within range, assuming of course that what is implied so far actually occurred.

Devs you've pushed this VN into a very ugly space. I recommend a great deal of caution as to how you proceed, especially since it's far too late for us, through the MC, to mitigate things.

The dude is a scumbag even if he didn't actually rape her, I think that's something we all agree on, but like I said that doesn't make her an innocent bystander who just happened to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time. A lot of people already listed all the ways she fucked up before the *alleged rape, so there's no reason for me to repeat them.
My point is, if you get hurt while you're being a fucking moron, I'll still feel bad you, but that won't magically make you a likeable or a good person and it definitely won't make all the mistakes that led you there just go away.

*I said alleged, because there are still a couple different theories about that, mostly based on her reaction the next morning and/or how wasted Bryce was. She's agitated, carries pepper spray and all that, but that could easily be the aftermath of something that happened after that day, especially if that was a trigger for her to get back in her old habits.

 

[FAP369ZONE]

Glad to see this EGame is alive. I had to restart from the beginning since tbh i forgot the story a bit. Not sure if Yusuf69 has the story all figured out yet from start to the end or is just making it up as he goes but this update feels a little... hmm what is the right word here...

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Also this one has some pretty good theories

Now moving on to the good part (i hope lol), Annie!

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Overall interesting story for now. Looking forward to future updates...

 

[ZagorTeNay]

MC never told her not to go, but to just be careful.

Both her and MC are in their late teens, because they're both in their first year of college. When you're that young, growing up around drugs, and constantly trying to fit in, it's way too hard to just back out.

When Ava was at the party, she was peer pressured into doing weed, alcohol, and eventually molly without consent.

We see Bryce literally planning this shit out. He watches her, dick suggests they fuck, but both bryce and Ava have stated that Ava doesn't like him anymore. After dropping the molly in her drink, he later stares at her, seeing how fucked up she is on the dance floor, and he takes his chances. Ava agrees, but can we really say she truly wanted it while being that intoxicated? I'd say having all three of those drugs (including alcohol), the level of awareness is greatly inhibited. She did say Bryce's name, but that doesn't mean she truly wanted to fuck. When you're that fucked up, you can't think straight. If she didn't let peer pressure get to her, and she didn't do the drugs, then yeah, she would not have went up with bryce at all. But the point is, how much do you truly need in order to forgive a young adult in her circumstances? I feel like too many people aren't looking at this whole situation correctly. A lot of responses I've seen don't seem to take so many factors into account. If all this were true, and you would still shit on Ava, then I don't know what to say about you as a person.

Same here. And it's "interesting", considering you don't hear a lot of complaints with behavior of typical MC in similar VNs: regularly cheating on other LI's, stalking, molestation, sexual abuse, etc.
Most of them range from simply being dishonest and disloyal to outright psychopaths.
And in Ava's case, her long history with the group, pressure from them, family background ( more subsceptible to pressure from her "friends"), previous drug addiction, being under influence alcohol/pot and drugs, and some former attraction to Bryce: all made her more vulnerable to be taken advantage of.

 

[Havenless_]

Same here. And it's "interesting", considering you don't hear a lot of complaints with behavior of typical MC in similar VNs: regularly cheating on other LI's, stalking, molestation, sexual abuse, etc.

Similar VN's? I think you're being unfair with the comparisons. This is not a story where the MC is a rapey as fuck creep who keeps perverting girls and corrupting them to make them his sex slaves. In 90% of similar VNs, the MC is not an abuser, a rapist, or a jerk.

If you are going to compare this visual novel with other truly similar ones, do it with Chasing Sunsets, Leap of Faith, Acting Lessons or even Being a Dik. Romantic/Slice of life style visual novels. Not with VN's based on corruption and all that stuff.

 

[Regis NEX]

Oh god, not the raped story... Oh no. Well I won't say so until it's proven 100% as far as I'm aware, Ava went to the party knowing what might happen as almost any party has that event. But oh man, now the story is so confusing. What to do, Annie is still best girl though.​

 

[Look-see]

damn son after reading comments to scared to dowload now. the rape tag was one thing as in most cases was hoping it was avoidable. but 17 freaking pages of people explaining the situation and MC not being able to avoid her...damn. when i saw this got updated and saw it had damn near 50 pages of comments that usually means the game is well liked.

but noooo it's like one of those rare times a dev messed up sooooo bad people cant stop expressing their dissatifaction with the story or game as a whole.

i have to admit im impressed by that.