MadMonk

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This game is like a real modern AAA Titel, in development for years, changing course every now and then with reworks, yet still stuck in development hell...
 
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Enyo_

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thank you for trying to help, i really like how involved you are with the community.
I have used v3.5 saves, nothing before v3.0. is ordering cofee at noon supposed to trigger the event automatically or it should be performed several times to start it ?
any way to advance the story in my situation ? or my only solution is to restart game ?
I think you don't need to restart. Probably, you just didn't advanced the story enough.
Basically, all you need to do is just go to cafe and order coffee. A lot of times. And then Twins' house will open. Which scenes did you already get in the cafe?
 

Weltmeister

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Thank you for your feedback.
I have a release plan for myself, but I don't share it since I'm not really good with deadlines. But I will do my best to release consistently.

Also, what kind of things you considered stereotyped in my game? If it wasn't my initial idea to make it like that(making it stereotypical) and I just didn't notice that I make that stereotypical, I would like to improve that.
Keep up the good work, I don't mind if it takes longer, good things take time!

It was obvious in the last update: One twin is nerdy, kinda shy, almost desperetaly trying to be cute and all, but at the same time sticks her butt in her sisters face. The other twin is even more shy, not so lively, introverted and all. To me that is kind of like stereotypical within an adult game. But I don't really mind that at all, a game doesn't need to have realistic characters to be fun and entertaining, most often they need to be stereotypical or behave unrealistic.

Oh, there is one even smaller flaw I noticed, that kinda bugs me: Why does Sebastian always, even if he's chilling with others, wear his suit? I mean doesn't he have something more cozy to wear? :D
 

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anyone has problem progress if u use 0.3 mod to the 0.37 version??
anyone was an updated walkthrough cant get the scene of the twins in there bed room
don't use mod, it was made for older version and a lot have changed since. which scene aka what part of game (last thing done)? there are quite a many scenes with those 2 in bedroom.

Oh, there is one even smaller flaw I noticed, that kinda bugs me: Why does Sebastian always, even if he's chilling with others, wear his suit? I mean doesn't he have something more cozy to wear? :D
well he comes straight from work to spend time with twins so ..........
 

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don't use mod, it was made for older version and a lot have changed since. which scene aka what part of game (last thing done)? there are quite a many scenes with those 2 in bedroom.



well he comes straight from work to spend time with twins so ..........
so i need to restart??
 

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Ok, I understand what Enyo was trying to express, but the dialogues with Kate don't look like teasing. MC just reminds Patrick, constantly asking what she means and pretending to be stupid. It all looks cringy, protracted and completely kills the mood. Dialogues like this have to balance delicately on the edge, but the MC almost immediately crosses the line and just does some bullshit. Throughout this story, what I wanted most was for Kate to just tell that idiot to fuck off and kick him out of the apartment. It really would be more satisfying than any sex scene.

And a lot of nice and cute nuances are just described by text, like "I kiss Kate's neck and cheek." Well, show it! All it takes is one render to improve the atmosphere and storytelling. It's still a visual novel.

And also, I think I will express the opinion of the majority here. You can throw out the rest of the characters or make them a side and make a game about MCs and twins and focus on that plot. Maybe then you can stop your creative convulsions.
 
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I think you don't need to restart. Probably, you just didn't advanced the story enough.
Basically, all you need to do is just go to cafe and order coffee. A lot of times. And then Twins' house will open. Which scenes did you already get in the cafe?
i didn't get any scenes in cafe this update yet. when i order coffee at noon all i get is "i had coffee and sat down with the twins for some time", how many times should i repeat to advance ?
 

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i didn't get any scenes in cafe this update yet. when i order coffee at noon all i get is "i had coffee and sat down with the twins for some time", how many times should i repeat to advance ?
There is no new scene in cafe in this update. It's all happening at the Twins' home.
 
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Keep up the good work, I don't mind if it takes longer, good things take time!

It was obvious in the last update: One twin is nerdy, kinda shy, almost desperetaly trying to be cute and all, but at the same time sticks her butt in her sisters face. The other twin is even more shy, not so lively, introverted and all. To me that is kind of like stereotypical within an adult game. But I don't really mind that at all, a game doesn't need to have realistic characters to be fun and entertaining, most often they need to be stereotypical or behave unrealistic.

Oh, there is one even smaller flaw I noticed, that kinda bugs me: Why does Sebastian always, even if he's chilling with others, wear his suit? I mean doesn't he have something more cozy to wear? :D
Thank you for your feedback about stereotypical stuff in my game. Now I see what you mean. I agree that it's okay and this is how I planned the characters to be. :giggle:

About Sebastien's suit. I want to change it for a long time, actually. It also creeps me out a bit. But I have a question. Should I do it "choosable" or if Sebastien change location then his clothes should change automatically. If automatically, which is much much easier to do wouldn't it look weird that he change his clothes all of the sudden?
 

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Ok, I understand what Enyo was trying to express, but the dialogues with Kate don't look like teasing. MC just reminds Patrick, constantly asking what she means and pretending to be stupid. It all looks cringy, protracted and completely kills the mood. Dialogues like this have to balance delicately on the edge, but the MC almost immediately crosses the line and just does some bullshit. Throughout this story, what I wanted most was for Kate to just tell that idiot to fuck off and kick him out of the apartment. It really would be more satisfying than any sex scene.

And a lot of nice and cute nuances are just described by text, like "I kiss Kate's neck and cheek." Well, show it! All it takes is one render to improve the atmosphere and storytelling. It's still a visual novel.

And also, I think I will express the opinion of the majority here. You can throw out the rest of the characters or make them a side and make a game about MCs and twins and focus on that plot. Maybe then you can stop your creative convulsions.
Thank you for your feedback.

"And also, I think I will express the opinion of the majority here. You can throw out the rest of the characters or make them a side and make a game about MCs and twins and focus on that plot. Maybe then you can stop your creative convulsions."
Actually, I got the messages like this all the time. :LOL: "You can leave all characters and leave only Lucy." "Drop all other characters and leave only Tiffany with Melanie." etc. But it's okay, I understand. Tastes differ.
 

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Actually, I got the messages like this all the time. :LOL: "You can leave all characters and leave only Lucy." "Drop all other characters and leave only Tiffany with Melanie." etc. But it's okay, I understand. Tastes differ.
Make a poll. I bet my ass that the twins will win by a wide margin. It's not really about who you focus on. You are clearly not coping with the amount of content that you decided to implement in the game. You have failed with your ambitions in every possible way. And it won't get better, I guarantee it.
 

Weltmeister

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About Sebastien's suit. I want to change it for a long time, actually. It also creeps me out a bit. But I have a question. Should I do it "choosable" or if Sebastien change location then his clothes should change automatically. If automatically, which is much much easier to do wouldn't it look weird that he change his clothes all of the sudden?
Good question. I would make an introduction that he leaves some cozy clothes at the other places. He spents so many evenings at the twins house for example, it wouldn't be weird if he has a hoody and some sweatpants at their place to quickly change when he visits them. The same goes for the rest of the places. Or you tell that he always rushes home after work to change clothes.
And after you explained it once, it wouldn't be weird anymore. At least not as weird as always wearing a suit :whistle:
 
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