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Thelokoman

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Almost no ntr
but... is it optional or is there no way around it?

(From your answer I understand that the game has almost no NTR... but I just want to know if I can "dodge it", no matter how little it is)

Thanks for responding so fast.
 

Enyo_

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I decided to take a look at this by total chance seeing it on the front page, and er.. What's up with the multiple protagonist tag? If it's not exclusively a male MC, that much should be fine but as per usual, search brings up little to no, but also extremely varied results. The overview also just adds to the confusion. I'm also trying not to be spoiled in the case this game really does interest me into playing it.
It's just a mistake. :)
 
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It's a little soon in the process for me to write a review, so I'll drop a couple of thoughts here.

First, I commend you for creating a game that differs significantly from most in the genre. I don't have a lot of patience for games centered around high school or even college (most college-themed games on here are nothing more than a fifth year of HS). The themes in this game are more mature and nuanced and that's a good thing.

Second, it seems to me you have multiple writers working on this project. As I progressed through the twins' story line, the writing was more fractured and obtuse and contained elements that detracted from, rather than complimented, the plot. Melanie's story line, on the other hand, was more coherent, and had less grammatical and composition errors. I would be very careful to not allow the script to run off the rails as it does in so many of these games.

Thirdly, I encourage you to start including top-shelf animations in the game. You may have this already planned and if so, disregard my advice. Good animation can really add a lot of polish to a game. Simple things such as eye-blinks really make a difference.

Fourth, you need audio. As a professional video editor (which includes audio engineering), it is frustrating for me to see how little effort is placed in audio fx for these games. There are many free and/or low-cost options available for obtaining audio assets. I would encourage you to spend time making that happen.

Lastly, I will talk about one pet peeve of mind. I see this a lot in these games and I understand we're all wired differently, but the use of models that appear to be 12-year-old girls is jarring. The twins fall into that category and it would be nice if they actually looked age appropriate.
 

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It's a little soon in the process for me to write a review, so I'll drop a couple of thoughts here.

First, I commend you for creating a game that differs significantly from most in the genre. I don't have a lot of patience for games centered around high school or even college (most college-themed games on here are nothing more than a fifth year of HS). The themes in this game are more mature and nuanced and that's a good thing.

Second, it seems to me you have multiple writers working on this project. As I progressed through the twins' story line, the writing was more fractured and obtuse and contained elements that detracted from, rather than complimented, the plot. Melanie's story line, on the other hand, was more coherent, and had less grammatical and composition errors. I would be very careful to not allow the script to run off the rails as it does in so many of these games.

Thirdly, I encourage you to start including top-shelf animations in the game. You may have this already planned and if so, disregard my advice. Good animation can really add a lot of polish to a game. Simple things such as eye-blinks really make a difference.

Fourth, you need audio. As a professional video editor (which includes audio engineering), it is frustrating for me to see how little effort is placed in audio fx for these games. There are many free and/or low-cost options available for obtaining audio assets. I would encourage you to spend time making that happen.

Lastly, I will talk about one pet peeve of mind. I see this a lot in these games and I understand we're all wired differently, but the use of models that appear to be 12-year-old girls is jarring. The twins fall into that category and it would be nice if they actually looked age appropriate.
The twins don't look like 12, they look like 18 years old at least.
They can look slender compared to the usual porn bombshell we are accustomed to in porn games, but real life 18 yo people look like that. You can compare their models to the jailbaits from DMD or Melody and the twins look older than that.
On the other hand they can appear to be naive at first, but if you pay attention to the writing they aren't really that innocent either.
 
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Enyo_

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It's a little soon in the process for me to write a review, so I'll drop a couple of thoughts here.

First, I commend you for creating a game that differs significantly from most in the genre. I don't have a lot of patience for games centered around high school or even college (most college-themed games on here are nothing more than a fifth year of HS). The themes in this game are more mature and nuanced and that's a good thing.

Second, it seems to me you have multiple writers working on this project. As I progressed through the twins' story line, the writing was more fractured and obtuse and contained elements that detracted from, rather than complimented, the plot. Melanie's story line, on the other hand, was more coherent, and had less grammatical and composition errors. I would be very careful to not allow the script to run off the rails as it does in so many of these games.

Thirdly, I encourage you to start including top-shelf animations in the game. You may have this already planned and if so, disregard my advice. Good animation can really add a lot of polish to a game. Simple things such as eye-blinks really make a difference.

Fourth, you need audio. As a professional video editor (which includes audio engineering), it is frustrating for me to see how little effort is placed in audio fx for these games. There are many free and/or low-cost options available for obtaining audio assets. I would encourage you to spend time making that happen.

Lastly, I will talk about one pet peeve of mind. I see this a lot in these games and I understand we're all wired differently, but the use of models that appear to be 12-year-old girls is jarring. The twins fall into that category and it would be nice if they actually looked age appropriate.
Huge thanks for your feedback!
I'm not a native speaker, so sometimes my patrons or just other good people help me with proofreading my game. Twins were written by me a very long time ago but nobody proofread events(if I accidentally didn't forget to put it in code, of course -__- ) My English was very bad at that time.
Audio and animation are huge goals of mine right now. But for now, I don't have time for it. There are many serious problems that I need to fix. I'll do it as soon as I'd have more free time or when I'll be able to hire people who will help me.
ABOUT TWINS! They don't look 12, I just want them to look cute, kawaii, nya nya nya and all that stuff ^_^ that's why they look like that. I state very clearly throughout the game that they're 18-th, they just look kind of young. That's all. There are tons of people who look younger than their age.
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I'm not a fan of heavy sandbox/freeroam VNs. You spent the time in them clicking around searching for the next trigger. This is 24 times worse in the ones with a 24h clock.
>Skip 1 hour > Search in all locations > Skip 1 hour > Search > Rinse and repeat during hours to see some sparse scene.
How can you make that system even more tedious? Adding menial tasks to fill the void, like go to Gymn to gain strenght, go to the kitchen to eat, and so on.

Right now the game has 4 time frames per day and in some there is nothing to do already. What's the point in adding 20 more?
I think it would be better if you focus on creating real content for the game and left the game mechanics as it is.
A month or two ago, you thought you had the basics of the game complete and that now you were going to focus on creating content faster. Now you want to introduce more changes to the base game = more time without meat content.

I don't know, I understand that you want to create the best possible game and that new ideas arise at the same time that you are developing what you have but I think that at some point you should stop touching the base mechanic and start adding content, new and interesting scenes with the characters we love.

At the end of the day it's your game and you have to do what you think is better, just my 2 cents.
holy shit. this this this. all day long. i almost want to add a link to this post to my signature. wraps up almost all my feelings about sandbox/freeroam "games" in a single post, yet we see it so much. thankfully there's a walkthrough at least.

i like this game, but mainly because of the girls, i especially like tiffany, the twins and jane. make it MORE tedious tho, and i will skip to just ripping the CGs and call it a day.

now a legit game related issue. in my playthrough, i was just doing the melanie events and twins events and it jumped from visiting the twins at the store to (imma spoiler tag this, to not ruin the story for those that don't know)
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thank you so much for the name change mod, i so hate playing some random guy instead of myself, feels like ntr right there ^^

i think
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should just implement this into the game, it does wonders immersion -wise :)
 
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cuteelf

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ABOUT TWINS! They don't look 12, I just want them to look cute, kawaii, nya nya nya and all that stuff ^_^ that's why they look like that. I state very clearly throughout the game that they're 18-th, they just look kind of young. That's all. There are tons of people who look younger than their age.
yes, yes, and yes. Twins are super cute and should stay that way. More than enough MILF games out there for the MILF lovers. Also, a high school setting is mighty fine by me, just saying

also, i couldnt care less about audio (id rather listen to my own music anyway) or animations (not that im AGAINST animations, but the set up of the scene is WAY more important than some 120 fps back and forth humping animation, IMHO). Would be a waste to divert efforts/resources to things like music/animations instead of actual, meaningful content, just my opinion
 

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Been wondering since it was implemented but is there a way to disable the Options and Patreon buttons on the top left of the screen? They stand out quite a bit and feel a tad distracting especially since both the Options and Patreon choices can be easily called upon from a right click.
 
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