Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.01] [JohnAndRich]

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gilgamesh9

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i can understand for as long as this games been around the updates are sub par at best. Those who actually like this route finally get somewhere even though 2 in a row actually i think. Even though its not much. I personally have been waiting a long time for the my curly haired friend to get the mom but we still have gone nowhere in that aspect.
 

hanpengyi

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I think the dev seems to be forgetting that this is a porn game website after all. This is not a place where people go read an exciting thriller or a magnificent novel. There is nothing wrong with wanting to produce a realistic, intriguing, and fascinating novel, but that is just not what this site is for. Combining the good literature aspect with decent pornographic content would be exceptional. But without the latter, people will lose interest.
 

bubbabutter

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There is whining, then there is pointing out the lack of effective communication about this release. A thorough description of what this release entails would have done much to silence those (including me) who were in the dark and saved a d/l.

Know the difference.
you guys make it sound like you're losing money in the market to some type of fraudulent issue, its literally porn... chill out, if this was a multi million dollar production that you had a hand in i could understand but you dont... you just "point out" if its that bad go find another game or better yet make your own game LMAO
 

michelita

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you guys make it sound like you're losing money in the market to some type of fraudulent issue, its literally porn... chill out, if this was a multi million dollar production that you had a hand in i could understand but you dont... you just "point out" if its that bad go find another game or better yet make your own game LMAO
Mate, this is an internet forum, people are guaranteed to lose their shit if they don't get what they want, exactly how they want it and whenever they feel like like getting it, not to mention, free.
 

L.Lumpy

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There is whining, then there is pointing out the lack of effective communication about this release. A thorough description of what this release entails would have done much to silence those (including me) who were in the dark and saved a d/l.

Know the difference.
Since when does the dev owe "effective communication about this release" to a pirate site? The fact that he stops into this thread at all amazes me sometimes, what with all the negative comments that people post.

I think the dev seems to be forgetting that this is a porn game website after all.
And I think perhaps you need to consider the possibility that the dev is catering to the people that are actually supporting him on SubscribeStar and Patreon, and not to you.

Combining the good literature aspect with decent pornographic content would be exceptional. But without the latter, people will lose interest.
Everyone's definition of "decent pornographic content" differs. Personally, I thought the Parker/Emily scene was pretty hot. Anybody notice that Rich isn't using the same old worn-out animations, but is producing his own.

I personally have been waiting a long time for the my curly haired friend to get the mom but we still have gone nowhere in that aspect.
And, just because you happen to be waiting for this particular combination, Rich is obligated to include it?

Mate, this is an internet forum, people are guaranteed to lose their shit if they don't get what they want, exactly how they want it and whenever they feel like like getting it, not to mention, free.
Exactly.

Look, folks, everybody on this site is getting this because someone who's paying the dev is being kind enough to upload it here. (And, yes, I'm one of his supporters.) So, for all you non-payers, bitching and moaning about what the dev "owes you/this site" or what he chooses to put in his story or not put in his story is, in my opinion, complete and utter bullshit. If you want something included, sign up on SubscribeStar or Patreon and PM him to see what he thinks of the idea.

Otherwise, if you don't like the story, nobody is forcing you to download it and play it. Go find some other thread to complain about and let those of us who enjoyed the update alone.
 

John Doe Jr.

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Carl ripping into the mc was quite an interesting read. In a lot of cases games like this don't have an npc with that much agency, especially the best friend npc. From the many games I've played they never felt like actual people but instead just in the background and kind of like just an accessory.
 

WuzzyFuzzy

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Since when does the dev owe "effective communication about this release" to a pirate site? The fact that he stops into this thread at all amazes me sometimes, what with all the negative comments that people post.
You asserted that people were whining about the update. I asserted that given better communication (ie, an accurate description in the changelog) there would have been less "whine". It's a valid assertion. The rest of your argument is a straw man fallacy. I said nothing negative about the game itself. I said nothing at all about the quality of this release because, given the route I am playing, there was nothing to play.

you guys make it sound like you're losing money in the market to some type of fraudulent issue, its literally porn... chill out, if this was a multi million dollar production that you had a hand in i could understand but you dont... you just "point out" if its that bad go find another game or better yet make your own game LMAO
See above. You make the same mistake.
 

cleanfeel

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You asserted that people were whining about the update. I asserted that given better communication (ie, an accurate description in the changelog) there would have been less "whine". It's a valid assertion. The rest of your argument is a straw man fallacy. I said nothing negative about the game itself. I said nothing at all about the quality of this release because, given the route I am playing, there was nothing to play.
Beggars can't be choosers

 
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Rich

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"Family, Friends and Strangers".

Why don't you just call this game "Everybody", Rich?
LOL. Ya, that's been mentioned before in this thread. JohnCBB and I, "back when," were struggling for a game name. This is what we came up with. I don't claim it's the most brilliant game title in the world, but you have to admit that it didn't limit us...
 

SPARDA2408

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Buying the game or not are not difference when you said one bad point of the game the dogs of the forum like ll lumpy attack you thats the spirit of this forum for years now
 

Rich

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You asserted that people were whining about the update. I asserted that given better communication (ie, an accurate description in the changelog) there would have been less "whine". It's a valid assertion.
No offense, but I don't feel I "owe" this site a blow-by-blow (no pun intended) description of the content of each update. Particularly when the update was posted here before it was released to all of my subscribers.

Had you looked at the previous changelog descriptions (i.e. "added chapter x") you'd have realized that there's a pattern there. So, expecting anything other than that is, IMHO, completely and utterly stupid. And, based on my experience here, which go back rather farther than yours, very few dev's give you a plot summary in the changelog. It's mostly "updates to <pick a character> path, NNN new renders." So, there was nothing "inaccurate" about the changelog. The fact that you didn't see what you wanted there is not my fault.

Look, folks. I'm telling the story I want to tell. I've said this over and over in this thread - not that newbies ever bother to read old posts. If you're taking advantage of the pirate nature of this site in order to "play" the story without contributing towards its development, you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to bitch about how the story proceeds or doesn't proceed, or whine (yes, "whine") about the content you were looking for not showing up. And if you are contributing (thanks, L.Lumpy) and don't like where I'm taking it, you're completely free to stop supporting it.

Those of you who have never tried to develop a game (or a story, since I don't consider this a game) have absolutely zero idea how much of a time commitment it is, or how much the "I didn't get the content I wanted, so this game sucks" posts wear on a developer. There is a reason why so many games get to an 0.2 or 0.3 and then get abandoned. And a big piece if it is facing you in the mirror.

OK, I feel a little better now. But it's the same thing over and over and over and over again. I put out a release, and 90% of the comments here are negative. It sucks. I have vowed that I am going to finish this project, but (a) you folks - well, most of you - are making that VERY hard, and (b) I'm thinking that I'll be damned if I subject myself to this again with a subsequent game/project/whatever. It... just... isn't... worth... it!
 

Night Hacker

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Wow! EXCELLENT update! I absolutely loved the story in this one. Definitely unexpected, but I enjoyed it. Looking forward to future updates. :love:
 
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