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So if you think you want to either add or replace a scene with something else, which can be even just a vague "can you find X character doing Y", feel free to ask, because I can't program for shit but to cut a piece from a video and put it in a webm is something I can do. Is unfortunate that the original developer wasted so much time on that boyfriend/voyeur route that goes nowhere when all those scenes could have put to use for the main route.
 

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Hey there, the only thing i need to do to install a patch is copie the rpa file into the game folder and reload the game? How do I see if the installation is been done properly?
Thanks.
To install the event packs, copy the .rpa files into the game folder. You shouldn't see any blue squares in the thread board.

To install the bug-fix patch (to upgrade to v0.1.3) you need to extract the contents of the FamilyLife0.1.3.patch.zip file to the main folder of the game (the folder that contains FamilyLife.exe, above the 'game' folder). This should replace all the .rpy files in the game folder. If the installation of the patch worked, you should see an L, T, and Q in the upper-right corner beside the hamburger menu.
 
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anyone can help me every time 21h when i go to adams i need to gift nikki but everytime i get a threesome scene and i cant complete the quest
It sounds like you're doing the right thing, but I can't see an obvious reason for this problem. Can you please send me your save file so I can investigate more?
 

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do we need to start a new game when using patch 1.3? i already finished most of the threads available, and i guess errors appear for saves with progress already too far in the game when using patch 1.3
You should be able continue using old saves after you've applied the patch. I haven't run into any problems, and I haven't heard of any issues (except, see below). In this case, because of some poor design choices when I designed the game, Ren'Py could not take care of loading old saves, and so I had to write a bunch of extra stuff to upgrade the saves. I think I did everything right, but things don't always go as planned.

Anyway, if you do have problems, you can always send me your save file and I can fix things up. The reason why I was concerned about the old saves is that usually Ren'Py just takes care of everything and old saves just work, without any effort from the dev.

Exception: If you've already completed all of the events in nannyOfficeCam, ginaOfficeCam, foxyOfficeCam, or beachModel, the game will think you haven't seen any of events for that thread when you load from an old save. In this case you'll have to watch all the events for that thread again (I know, it's tough to watch all that porn). Or, you can just abort the thread if you've already seen everything. Note that this isn't a problem if you've only seen part of the thread (you can pick up where you left off), just if you've seen everything. And this only applies to these four threads - all other threads should be fine.
 
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You should be able continue using old saves after you've applied the patch. I haven't run into any problems, and I haven't heard of any issues (except, see below). In this case, because of some poor design choices when I designed the game, Ren'Py could not take care of loading old saves, and so I had to write a bunch of extra stuff to upgrade the saves. I think I did everything right, but things don't always go as planned.

Anyway, if you do have problems, you can always send me your save file and I can fix things up. The reason why I was concerned about the old saves is that usually Ren'Py just takes care of everything and old saves just work, without any effort from the dev.

Exception: If you've already completed all of the events in nannyOfficeCam, ginaOfficeCam, foxyOfficeCam, or beachModel, the game will think you haven't seen any of events for that thread when you load from an old save. In this case you'll have to watch all the events for that thread again (I know, it's tough to watch all that porn). Or, you can just abort the thread if you've already seen everything. Note that this isn't a problem if you've only seen part of the thread (you can pick up where you left off), just if you've seen everything. And this only applies to these four threads - all other threads should be fine.
I really haven't touched the added threads yet so I can't say if there are or there will be problems on it on my side, but the one where the error occurred for me was when I tried to do the flirt action on Foxy at 7AM bathroom. I got Foxy at 3000 relationship points and I finished all of Foxy events except for the events with her and the other guys (foxyPhoto, Anton, Adams, etc.). Also, when I go to the city map only Madison, Adams and Home locations are there and nothing else
 

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Probably, since the story reset doesn't actually roll anything else back, right? I must have missed the gym membership time limit.
Yeah, that reset is very minor, and it's unlikely to reset the gym membership (unless there's some very bad memory overflow issue in the game, in which case I'd expect a lot more problems). The reset at the end of the Blackmail thread (with Angelica and Laura) that occurs early in the game is more involved, but even for that one I can't see who the gym membership would be affected.

Something I meant to suggest earlier: have the hint Eye icon change color or something to signify if it's active or not. I've been stuck a few times where I wasn't sure if it was on or off, and there were no active events at the time for me to check against.
Good idea. There are five states that the system can be in, and here's what I'm thinking of doing (bearing in mind that it's fairly easy to change the color of the eye, but harder to change its shape):
  1. Highlighting is disabled - the eye will be invisible;
  2. Highlighting is permanently enabled and there are no active events - the eye will be orange (its current color);
  3. Highlighting is permanently enabled and there are some active events - the eye will be green;
  4. Temporary highlighting is enabled (active events are highlighted only if you hover over the eye) and there are no active events - the eye will be grey; and
  5. Temporary highlighting is enabled and there are some active events - the eye will be green.
If you have some other ideas about how the eye should be implemented, please let me know.

Edit: Testing the patch now, and two things: 1) Somehow, I jumped to ginaLounge3 without completing 1 and 2 (but having completed 0 prior to patching). In the Threads screen, 2 is showing as available tomorrow, but 1 and 4 are greyed out.

Pseudo-edit: just occurred to me: it probably actually triggered 1, but the wrong node on the Threads page was colored in.
It's probably working exactly as it's supposed to. In the QSP game, some threads (such as ginaLounge) contain events that can be carried out in random order (these are mostly the spectre1viper threads), and I spent way too much time trying to figure out how to get that working in my thread systems. I eventually got it working, and was then able to play those parts of the game (I never finished playing the QSP version, which is why I had to write the Ren'Py version). And then I decided it really wasn't necessary that these events came in a random order, but had spent so much time getting random events working that I couldn't bring myself to throw away all that work.

Anyway, with the random threads the events will be marked in green in the order in which you see them. If you replay the game later you'll see the events in a different order. But, once you've seen all the events, the thread will be marked as complete, regardless of the order.

Edit: There is a bug in the thread board - the event that shows up in white will not necessarily be the one that will trigger tomorrow. Something for me to fix in the next patch.

Also, in the last section of the event, the amount of text exceeded the textbox size, and I couldn't read it (Same thing on ginaPool 0).
You'll find this happening more and more as you get farther into the game. If you hover over the text you can use your mouse wheel to scroll through the text. This isn't ideal, but I'm not sure what the best way to fix this is. One way is to break the text into many smaller paragraphs, and the player can click through them all while the video continues to play. But some players aren't that interested in the text and will complain that there's too much clicking. Another way is to add scroll bars, but I tried this and couldn't get this working nicely (the scroll bars showed up even if they weren't needed, which is most of the time). A lot of the text also needs to be reformatted as it contains lots of random line breaks, resulting from the automatic extraction of the text from the QSP game. This is definitely something I need to think about how to resolve, and I'm open to suggestions about what you think would be best, and then I'll try to implement it.
 
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I really haven't touched the added threads yet so I can't say if there are or there will be problems on it on my side, but the one where the error occurred for me was when I tried to do the flirt action on Foxy at 7AM bathroom. I got Foxy at 3000 relationship points and I finished all of Foxy events except for the events with her and the other guys (foxyPhoto, Anton, Adams, etc.). Also, when I go to the city map only Madison, Adams and Home locations are there and nothing else
I'm looking into the missing locations right now - please send me your save file. If you save the game under slot one of save screen 6, it'll be in the 'saves' folder under the 'game' folder, as file 6-1-LT1.save. This will save me a lot of time trying to find the bugs.
 
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I'm looking into the missing locations right now - please send me your save file. If you save the game under slot one of save screen 6, it'll be in the 'saves' folder under the 'game' folder, as file 6-1-LT1.save. This will save me a lot of time trying to find the bugs.
I'm guessing the map locations changes depending on the time, so since it's 7AM only those 3 locations I mentioned would be available to visit. I also got an error when I tried viewing the camera at 10AM, do I need to have the thread for those camera viewing checked? It is currently unchecked on my side, I think it's the default setting for it
 

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I'm guessing the map locations changes depending on the time, so since it's 7AM only those 3 locations I mentioned would be available to visit. I also got an error when I tried viewing the camera at 10AM, do I need to have the thread for those camera viewing checked? It is currently unchecked on my side, I think it's the default setting for it
Sorry, please download the latest patch again (updated it a minute ago). That should fix the problem with the locations. I'll look into the other problems now, but some may have been fixed with this new patch.
 
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I'm guessing the map locations changes depending on the time, so since it's 7AM only those 3 locations I mentioned would be available to visit. I also got an error when I tried viewing the camera at 10AM, do I need to have the thread for those camera viewing checked? It is currently unchecked on my side, I think it's the default setting for it
To fix the other problems, you can edit the file 'threads.rpy' in the 'game' folder, and change line 1629 from
RThreadData(1, 'event', 'BeachModel', None, (28,
to
RThreadData(1, 'event', 'BeachModel', None, (38,
(that is, change 28 to 38).

Or you can wait a minute until I update the patch file again.
 

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I'm guessing the map locations changes depending on the time, so since it's 7AM only those 3 locations I mentioned would be available to visit. I also got an error when I tried viewing the camera at 10AM, do I need to have the thread for those camera viewing checked? It is currently unchecked on my side, I think it's the default setting for it
So, do you remember when I said the new patch wouldn't cause you any problems? I lied! :D
Anyway, I think I've managed to fix all the issues you raised, but please let me know if you find anything else. One question, though. Had you already seen a bunch of the Beach Model events, or did those accidentally get marked as completed?
 
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So, do you remember when I said the new patch wouldn't cause you any problems? I lied! :D
Anyway, I think I've managed to fix all the issues you raised, but please let me know if you find anything else. One question, though. Had you already seen a bunch of the Beach Model events, or did those accidentally get marked as completed?
I'm not sure actually since there's no tracker for it before, but I always visit the beach at around 11 or 12 each day and whenever the tan value goes below 70. I've just finished getting the new patch file, I'll try the new one now
 

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There are five states that the system can be in, and here's what I'm thinking of doing (bearing in mind that it's fairly easy to change the color of the eye, but harder to change its shape):
Honestly, I was thinking something much simpler: if highlighting is enabled (permanently from clicking, or temporarily from hovering), then the eye is green. If it's not enabled, but the option is checked to allow it, then it's orange. If the option isn't checked to allow it, invisible. The impetus here is mostly because it's currently hard to tell if it's permanently enabled or not--if there's an event available at the time you're at, you can hover and see the appropriate spot on the screen turn green, but if there's not, there's no visual indicator.

This is all brought to you by "when I first started using the hint system, I accidentally turned it off and then spent an hour or two not realizing it."
 

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I have another 2 thought from today.

1) As we discussed job is hard/rare and underpaid; makes cheat compulsory or facing extreme grind. Shall we think about alternative ways to add money like streaming security cameras into BB style pervert cam broadcasting. Convince college girls and/or family members to do bikini/underwear/artistic nude/nude/porn photo shots/videos and sell them secretly or with/without their permission. Or do Modell portfolio setups for money...or even doing gigs like wedding photos...

2) When I did follow the nanny I chose give her time 2 path immediately get blocked, I rolled back chose another path than warning me that's the wrong choice. I got confused. Later I enabled all locked scene and find out if I finish path at end it unlock them, so technically they not really locked shouldn't marked them as locked, or should have new color for "temporary locked". as its in current form its a bug if we look at very strictly.
 

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I tried searching but unless I'm blind I didn't see anyone else mentioning the wife bj scenes are just black screens, at least for me. Apologies if this has been mentioned!
 

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I tried searching but unless I'm blind I didn't see anyone else mentioning the wife bj scenes are just black screens, at least for me. Apologies if this has been mentioned!
You need to download event pack 1 (event1.rpa) and put it in the 'game' folder to get the BJ videos, but it seems like there's a bug in the game as well. It shouldn't be trying to show you the BJ videos if you don't have that event pack installed, but that isn't working properly.

You can check if the event pack is properly installed by looking at the thread board. If there are a lot of blue squares the event packs are in the wrong place.
 
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I'm not sure actually since there's no tracker for it before, but I always visit the beach at around 11 or 12 each day and whenever the tan value goes below 70. I've just finished getting the new patch file, I'll try the new one now
Given how far you are in the game, I'm assuming you have been seeing the beach model events (they're just long videos of models at the beach). If you haven't already seen any of those (you save file thinks you've seen about 25 so far), then I can tell you how to reset the thread to start again. But since they don't affect the story at all you can just watch the videos at your leisure by clicking on the boxes in the thread board.
 

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You need to download event pack 1 (event1.rpa) and put it in the 'game' folder to get the BJ videos, but it seems like there's a bug in the game as well. It shouldn't be trying to show you the BJ videos if you don't have that event pack installed, but that isn't working properly.

You can check if the event pack is properly installed by looking at the thread board. If there are a lot of blue squares the event packs are in the wrong place.
Aah I see. I didn't realise the event pack would be for the main characters for some reason I assumed they'd be side stuff, I'm dumb. Thanks for the info!
 
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