VN Ren'Py Abandoned Family Resort [Demo] [Sylvie Dreams]

[DisabledAccount1110202308]

I've said more than enough on this matter, but let me just finish by saying, that if you check any of the new games that are uploaded everyday, you'll see they only have Tags that represent what is currently available in the playable version. Future/planned content is mentioned under "Planned" either in "Developer Notes" or "Genre". With the "Genre" tab specifying in detail the genres included currently and genres that are "Planned" to be added later.

JC07, TheDevian, Sylvie Dreams.

 

[TheDevian]

I've said more than enough on this matter, but let me just finish by saying, that if you check any of the new games that are uploaded everyday, you'll see they only have Tags that represent what is currently available in the playable version. Future/planned content is mentioned under "Planned" either in "Developer Notes" or "Genre". With the "Genre" tab specifying in detail the genres included currently and genres that are "Planned" to be added later.

JC07, TheDevian, Sylvie Dreams.

Correct, that is what I just said, the tags are for what is there now, and the genre is for current AND planned. Which is what we see here.

 

[DisabledAccount1110202308]

Correct, that is what I just said, the tags are for what is there now, and the genre is for current AND planned. Which is what we see here.

Whether the Tags here appropriately represent the current version or not, is debatable.
But the current version doesn't even have half the things that the "Genre" tab says it does. Does 1 BJ and accidental nudity actually entail all of these: 3DCG, Male protagonist, Incest, Big tits, Exhibitionism, Mobile game, Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Groping, Animated, Teasing, MILF, Virgin, Harem, Hand job, Humiliation, Stripping. Half of these belong under "Planned", which they aren't.

 

[TheDevian]

Whether the Tags here appropriately represent the current version or not, is debatable.
But the current version doesn't even have half the things that the "Genre" tab says it does. Does 1 BJ and accidental nudity actually entail all of these: 3DCG, Male protagonist, Incest, Big tits, Exhibitionism, Mobile game, Oral sex, Vaginal sex, Groping, Animated, Teasing, MILF, Virgin, Harem, Hand job, Humiliation, Stripping. Half of these belong under "Planned", which they aren't.

What did you and I JUST say? Genre is for current AND planned.

 

[DisabledAccount1110202308]

What did you and I JUST say? Genre is for current AND planned.

You have to specify what is "Planned" and what is currently available.

 

[TheDevian]

You have to specify what is "Planned" and what is currently available.

No, no you don't, that is why we have the tags, they are for what is there now. The Genre is for planned and current.

 

[DisabledAccount1110202308]

No, no you don't, that is why we have the tags, they are for what is there now. The Genre is for planned and current.

https://f95zone.to/threads/coming-home-is-never-easy-demo-caveboomer-productions.81338/
Check this game out, which just released today. Tags say what is currently there, Genre describes it in detail, and Developer Notes has Planned content. The linked game has incest & harem, but not currently in the game, so it goes under Planned. Family Resort, doesn't follow suit.

https://f95zone.to/threads/sexbot-v0-1-llamamann-games.76954/
Another one which accurately represents Tags and Genre.

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-big-beyond-v0-01-tjop.81217/
And another demo where the Tags and Genre are matching, and the Dev says there isn't much adult content, with more to come.

https://f95zone.to/threads/smartass-v0-02-zee95.43168/
Tags and Genre are same, which represent current content, Planned not even mentioned.

https://f95zone.to/threads/frozen-past-v0-02-leonave.76296/
Another great example of matching Genre and Tags, with Developer Notes saying what will come.

https://f95zone.to/threads/boarding-school-v0-09-c-innovation.79598/
Accurate Tags, and Genre in detail, with Developer Notes saying what content is available.

All of these are relatively new releases/demos, I can give many more examples of accurate representation of Genre, with Current and Planned content specified. In most cases Genre is used for things currently in the game which there are no Tags for, and planned/future content being specifically mentioned as/under "Planned".

 

[TheDevian]

https://f95zone.to/threads/coming-home-is-never-easy-demo-caveboomer-productions.81338/
Check this game out, which just released today. Tags say what is currently there, Genre describes it in detail, and Developer Notes has Planned content. The linked game has incest & harem, but not currently in the game, so it goes under Planned. Family Resort, doesn't follow suit.

https://f95zone.to/threads/sexbot-v0-1-llamamann-games.76954/
Another one which accurately represents Tags and Genre.

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-big-beyond-v0-01-tjop.81217/
And another demo where the Tags and Genre are matching, and the Dev says there isn't much adult content, with more to come.

https://f95zone.to/threads/smartass-v0-02-zee95.43168/
Tags and Genre are same, which represent current content, Planned not even mentioned.

https://f95zone.to/threads/frozen-past-v0-02-leonave.76296/
Another great example of matching Genre and Tags, with Developer Notes saying what will come.

https://f95zone.to/threads/boarding-school-v0-09-c-innovation.79598/
Accurate Tags, and Genre in detail, with Developer Notes saying what content is available.

All of these are relatively new releases/demos, I can give many more examples of accurate representation of Genre, with Current and Planned content specified. In most cases Genre is used for things currently in the game which there are no Tags for, and planned/future content being specifically mentioned as/under "Planned".

Again, for the last time, TAGS are for current content, the genre spot can be ANYTHING the OP wants it to be! Just because other people do something some way, who cares? It is what it is. There are rules about tags, but the genre thing is not the same thing. It can use however the uploader makes it. Get over it.

 

[JC07]

I understand and respect your opinion. But if I were to complain in every game the tag mess that exists here, I would spend the rest of days here.

What I meant in my comment was that, I prefer Tag that is not in the game yet, than Tag that is in the game and the developer hides it. What happens a lot with TAG NTR, which looks like a new trend in game creation now, first scene H is a LI fucking another guy. And the DEV's hide it as the most delicious thing in the world that everyone likes. so this forum is full of anti-pro NTR warfare.

So I prefer TAG that is not yet in the game, than hidden TAG. At least I can prepare for what is coming.

But I understand that these TAGs should be in the OP as a future TAG. I myself am one that before testing any game I ask about what is planned, some TAGs are unacceptable to me.

So as I’ve been saying, TAG’s more vanilla like vaginal sex, I don’t even notice much, because I know who usually in first releases is a bit rare to have, and always when there’s other people doing it, so I’m more concerned with “heavy” TAG and when I mentioned the criticisms it is because I think it is unnecessary to criticize something or chase a game because it has a false TAG or the TAG is missing. In my case, as I don't like NTR, I always follow the comments before downloading, and in cases of first release that I don't see anyone talking about, I ask the DEV itself, if it's second to me I'll test it, otherwise I just follow with my life. Now if it’s a game that attracts me and I’ve tested it, I can criticize DEV for things that can add to his project, like, I haven’t played this one yet, but one thing that irritates me constantly is the MC profile , I don't know who put it in the minds of developers recently that MC's have to be useless with a horse stick, where all the blood goes to the dick. So when I'm going to criticize a game it's more in relation to that, for them to improve the MC or make an LI less bitchy, malicious criticism only when the DEV lies or hides shit to attract an audience and then does shit.

When I told DEV to ignore this, it wasn't ignoring or disrespecting him, it was for him to understand that criticism just for criticism should not shake his project, if someone doesn't like it, there are people who like it, that is, that he focuses on the story that he you want to count, do the best you can to give us a good game and don't take it too seriously. After all, it's his game, it's his job and many are playing for free.

 

[JC07]

And again, I am not saying that you are wrong here. I'm telling DEV not to get too hot with this and focus on his story.

I'm sorry if I looked disrespectful. I don't speak english and I use the google translator to communicate and this sometimes causes a lot of confusion.

 

[majdaddin]

Since END is out now, is this game abandoned? This was a demo for that, right?, since the intro is pretty much the same.

 

[Lola Adjani]

This demo was a quick and dirty test to see if there would be any interest in a mystery/adventure type of porn game. It got retooled quite a bit, and exists now as "Evil Never Dies". The story premise is very similar.
So, yes: "Family Resort" will not be developed in this original form.

 

[Miss Kobayashi's]

and what the hell were you doing then, the game took so much and abandoned the game, people probably who subscribed to the fact that the game was already abandoned, and the money subscribed to mining is just a nightmare, you will still refuse the second game and your occupation can be changed to drogye affairs

 

[Lola Adjani]

and what the hell were you doing then, the game took so much and abandoned the game, people probably who subscribed to the fact that the game was already abandoned, and the money subscribed to mining is just a nightmare, you will still refuse the second game and your occupation can be changed to drogye affairs

I don't really understand your comment, or if it's even directed at me.

If it is directed at me, and you ask what I was doing, the answer is simple: I wrote a story premise, created character descriptions, wrote a partial outline, and developed a short 'test script'. That test was to illustrate one possible method of allowing the player to choose relationships between various characters. I didn't expect it to be published. Sylvie Dreams thought it was cute, and turned it into the demo she uploaded, here. That's where my involvement ended. I continued working on the "Arizona Unbridled" script.

You also mention money and "mining". I'm entirely a volunteer. I've never asked for compensation for my submissions, although Silvie has repeatedly offered to pay me. I've always insisted that she take care of her own family's needs first.

I've been writing for more than 40 years, just for the sake of my own enjoyment. The work I've done for Sylvie Dreams is the first anyone besides myself has ever read. I try to help Silvie because I like the person that she is, but in general, I've spent most of my adult life trying to help others.

Initially, creating a VN was purely "for fun", for both of us. Sylvie Dreams never expected it to be profitable. The pandemic changed everything. It hit most everyone, in one way or another, but Silvie was hit by multiple hardships. Patreon became her sole source of income. "Family Resort"/"Evil Never Dies" was an attempt to stave off poverty. But, as is the nature of adult content, there are many consumers, but relatively few are willing to compensate the creators. It almost seems that more people are willing to compensate those who facilitate and condone piracy. That, to me, is a sad commentary on humanity.

As for me, this will likely be my last post for the foreseeable future. I've been living on savings for the past nine years, and those funds are now exhausted. My hope was that my writing efforts would generate enough revenue to sustain both Silvie and me. That hasn't been the case. Apparently, I'm not a talented enough writer. In any event, my focus now is on finding a suitable residence. Perhaps I will one day be able to again afford to pay for phone and internet. Time will tell.

I wish everyone well.

 

[Avaron1974]

Initially, creating a VN was purely "for fun", for both of us. Sylvie Dreams never expected it to be profitable. The pandemic changed everything. It hit most everyone, in one way or another, but Silvie was hit by multiple hardships. Patreon became her sole source of income. "Family Resort"/"Evil Never Dies" was an attempt to stave off poverty. But, as is the nature of adult content, there are many consumers, but relatively few are willing to compensate the creators. It almost seems that more people are willing to compensate those who facilitate and condone piracy. That, to me, is a sad commentary on humanity.

Not quite accurate.

There are hundreds, if not as few thousand, adult game developers. The market is over saturated with developers new and old trying to make money.

Like you said yourself, the pandemic hit us all one way or another and we all have devs we're already backing.

There just simply isn't enough money to go around for every developer.

Only a handful of devs will ever earn enough to call this a career. Most of the big well known developers still have full time jobs because they know how fickle this industry is.

People seem to think it's a quick or easy way to make money and one time that may have been true but now so many people are trying to cash in on it that the vast majority of devs will only ever make between absolutely nothing to a few hundred a month.

The average is about 1k.

Anything over that and you have either built up a dedicated fanbase over a few years or got incredibly lucky.

Sadly most devs are not willing or able to put in the work to build a fanbase and seem to expect instant money. It has taken most of the big earners years and a few competed games to build up the player base they have.

You want to earn money for your work you need to put in the time and the effort. It could take one or two completed projects before people jump on your band wagon but blaming piracy when you don't have a solid body of work behind you to justify people supporting you is wrong on so many levels.

It's like those devs that start one game expecting instant success, don't get it, abandon their project then start another expecting that to bring them success. The exact opposite there is true. The more games abandoned the less likely anyone will back you because the trust is gone.

Simply put, if any dev wants our money they need to earn it. This isn't a job, we're not employing you so you aren't entitled to our money. You get that by showing us it's worth our time to support you. It's not our job to keep you working it's your job to keep us invested.

There are just too many games and too many devs for us to hand money over to everyone.

Want our money, earn it.

 

[Lara Snow]

Imagine expecting money for shitty content that catters only to the most hateful and oppresive part of the comunity. Easy niche is still a niche.