Ren'Py Completed Fantasy Trainer [v1.1] [Kyle Mercury]

[fulcrum]

NTR is if its against the will of the partner (rape) or the character followed. if you pimp her, youre pimping her. thats not NTR in the strictest sense. sure some people get off on making a person fuck someone else, but NTR usualy focuses on the betrayal, disapointment and disgust one feels when seeing someone else bumps uglies with your partner or love interest.

 

[kratoscar2008]

NTR is if its against the will of the partner (rape) or the character followed. if you pimp her, youre pimping her. thats not NTR in the strictest sense. sure some people get off on making a person fuck someone else, but NTR usualy focuses on the betrayal, disapointment and disgust one feels when seeing someone else bumps uglies with your partner or love interest.

Netorase is all about others fucking your live interest, the one urging the other to do it might do it for many reasons but the one urging it has to willingly do it.
This is NTR but its the one that doesnt involve feelings as strong as netorare or netori.
The MC pimping a potential love interest is NTR.

Welp. It seems I may have to think up some alternatives.

I mean. The MC is very powerful so i dont see why you cant use that on your advantage, i understand the need to degrade Elizabeth but rather than whoring it should be something that shows that she is no longer a princess but just your slave.
Please dont Rowan up your protag, you have so far managed to do what SoC hasnt been able to do since its inception: play a powerful character who is meant to dominate all.

 

[Riion]

There are other games with NTR why force it in even when the developer don't want it in there game? Is NTR gonna be force in on every single game on this website because of a vocal minority that want all games to cater to them?

 

[kratoscar2008]

There are other games with NTR why force it in even when the developer don't want it in there game? Is NTR gonna be force in on every single game on this website because of a vocal minority that want all games to cater to them?

Is just so bizarre.
You have this game meant for an specific audience but then you add a fetish that you know (i least i hope devs arent as clueless) is quite controversial, doesnt really adds to the main premise and that more often than not stunts your growth.
Just compare Seeds of Chaos to basically most of the games that came around the same time. Despite SoC top notch work ethics it had the slowest growth out of the games that are already popular. Thats because people expected a game with a certain focus but by making it a jack of all trades, it mastered none.
Pretty sure if that game was all about Rowan being on a power trip, slaying monsters and pussy that game would be much better received.
Want to make NTR game? By all means but this need to include it in games that arent about that is very annoying.

 

[TomberryDude]

Some misinformation is going on here. NTR is cheating porn. NTR is not willingly sharing your partner. The whole point of NTR is getting your girl stole. Or stealing someone's girl. Now, sharing in a game can make you feel the same as NTR, but that doesn't make it NTR.

With that being said, I don't like sharing either. It's been a long time since I played but I thought you could be pretty nice and have a "loving" relationships with the girls in this. Including the princess. Which definitely doesn't mesh with making her a prostitute in my mind.

I can't tell the dev what to do. And it's not like an optional story including things I don't like will ruin the whole game forever.

 

[kratoscar2008]

Some misinformation is going on here. NTR is cheating porn. NTR is not willingly sharing your partner. The whole point of NTR is getting your girl stole. Or stealing someone's girl. Now, sharing in a game can make you feel the same as NTR, but that doesn't make it NTR.

With that being said, I don't like sharing either. It's been a long time since I played but I thought you could be pretty nice and have a "loving" relationships with the girls in this. Including the princess. Which definitely doesn't mesh with making her a prostitute in my mind.

I can't tell the dev what to do. And it's not like an optional story including things I don't like will ruin the whole game forever.

NTR is basically a catch all term that includes Netorare, Netorase and Netori.
Netorase is indeed the willing part of NTR and the closest term that goes by cuckold.
Atelier Sakura for instance works with the 3 forms of NTR but Netorase is their bread and butter.

 

[TomberryDude]

NTR is basically a catch all term that includes Netorare, Netorase and Netori.
Netorase is indeed the willing part of NTR and the closest term that goes by cuckold.
Atelier Sakura for instance works with the 3 forms of NTR but Netorase is their bread and butter.

Oh I didn't realize that's a "s" at the end and not an "r". That changes some things. I never heard that version before.

 

[kratoscar2008]

Oh I didn't realize that's a "s" at the end and not an "r". That changes some things. I never heard that version before.

As an example see this:

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At first it looks like NTR but in the end its revealed that the husband was the one who send the rapist so he could film his wife being ravaged by another dude.
Thats is netorase.

 

[thefetussundae]

At the end of the day, I think there just needs to be additional options to earn money so whoring Elizabeth isn't necessary in the early game.

That said, the MC is a super powerful dude but he's a warlord who is now faced with administration of a realm. You can't just superpower away an entire population or intimidate a struggling economy. My suggestion would be to tie Elizabeth's feelings for the protag to a taxation mechanic since the whole point of breaking her is to get the populace to support the new regime. As the people see their beloved princess come to support the new king they're more willing to pay the tax person.

Throw in some extra income from selling different plants or partnering with the store and even if you leave it in, whoring Elizabeth is no longer necessary for the player to get anywhere.

 

[CursedFlame91]

I wonder, why was a brothel the first thing to mind, why not something more like a stripclub?
We get the princess to degrade herself to a bigger audience raising her corruption while at the same her reputation with the townsfolk goes down.

And to be honest, the kind of main character you wrote here wouldn't fit in any netowhateverthefuckitis scenario.

Like, you'd honestly try to sell me the idea that the powerful {insert character name here}, conqueror of Allitia, the man who can bring down entire armies and cut small mountains with a butter knife, the man who was also raised by Blood Rain Melony, Archdemon of the purple flame, Right hand to the Demon lord Beelza'boob, Queen of all Succubuses, even she states the folllowing: "You could probably kill the Demon Lord if you wanted to, you're the most powerful man I know."

In what world a man like this would share his harem.

 

[Deleted member 1706148]

The perfect place to learn porn terminologies
Also, optional ntr would be nice cause i have mood swing tendencies.

 

[kratoscar2008]

The perfect place to learn porn terminologies
Also, optional ntr would be nice cause i have mood swing tendencies.

Thats the advantage of being a weeb.
And also nope, if you want NTR go play an NTR game.

 

[Riion]

The perfect place to learn porn terminologies
Also, optional ntr would be nice cause i have mood swing tendencies.

Adding it would kill the power fantasy for everyone who enjoys this game besides me, if you want the main charater to share / give up his haremm to someone so bad why not make a mod for a bad ending toward the player for failing the game, and let everone else enjoy the game how it was ment to be?

Thats the advantage of being a weeb.
And also nope, if you want NTR go play an NTR game.

You can go into detail all you want,but it seems they don't care. They just want there fetish forces in the game even if the developer doesn't want to cater to them. They will beg first, insult people who disagree with them, then get angry. After awil they'll move on to another game that's popular game to try to kill it.

NTR can work for some games but not all porn games on this planet.

 

[Deleted member 1706148]

Adding it would kill the power fantasy for everyone who enjoys this game besides me, if you want the main charater to share / give up his haremm to someone so bad why not make a mod for a bad ending toward the player for failing the game, and let everone else enjoy the game how it was ment to be?

nah... i don't mind mc sharing his girls or heck even giving em away. i'm mentally trained enough to handle those stuffs. it's just that sometimes its nice having options. i'm cool with it being straight up NTR if thats the game intended to be.

 

[kratoscar2008]

nah... i don't mind mc sharing his girls or heck even giving em away. i'm mentally trained enough to handle those stuffs. it's just that sometimes its nice having options. i'm cool with it being straight up NTR if thats the game intended to be.

Options should contribute to a game's theme.
If the theme is harem then the options should revolve around complementing the harem theme.
NTR doesn't so it shouldn't be there at all.
If you want to add NTR make sure that the game at least should be build around it from the ground up.

 

[Lookkachappi]

Cheat?

 

[dragon608]

why wont this show up in latest updates

 

[CronosusCZ]

found anyone way to show scenes in this "View scenes"?
example throught editing save?
i have there only Sarah scene, but i'm sure there was more previously

ad. you can rename "Sarah Sex Scene" example to Clea/Liana/Melony/Pacifica on line "scene_list"
(it give error at the end of scene with "u'daughtersname" for Clea)
but i dint figured how to add more scenes at once

 

[Yamemai]

found anyone way to show scenes in this "View scenes"?
example throught editing save?
i have there only Sarah scene, but i'm sure there was more previously

ad. you can rename "Sarah Sex Scene" example to Clea/Liana/Melony/Pacifica on line "scene_list"
(it give error at the end of scene with "u'daughtersname" for Clea)
but i dint figured how to add more scenes at once

Those are for one-time scenes, aka scenes for when you don't 'recruit' the girls. I believe I had uploaded a save with all of them, as of around 2 versions ago, if you want them without restarting. -- Though, I didn't know how to get Clea, while not getting Sarah, so I had another save solely for her.

 

[CronosusCZ]

i know what are those scenes, just dont know how to unlock them to be in this list.
I repeately tried to play those scenes and then rewind back to recruit girl, but only Sarah remained, for others it didn't worked.
Thats why i asked if someone know a "cheat" method to get those scenes to this list