Ostego

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The fact that Victoria believed that she could become a model with blackmail and bribes without having the talent or appearance for it, shows that she is not as smart as she thinks.

That aside, am I the only one who remembers Victoria getting spanked? Which makes me think she's just someone else's pawn, who is probably the mastermind behind Monica's misfortune, which makes me wonder if it would be possible to side with Monica's victory to overthrow this sinister figure.
This sinister figure is Philip. And the question who’s the target of Victorias game. With Monica he plays on his own rules. Only one person who left - Stephanie. Cuz if u see gallery next scene after whipping just about Stephanie.
 

Ulysseplus2

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You probably haven't fully completed all the positions in Monica's striptease dance. There are arrows that let you know which positions have not yet been performed ;)
You probably haven't fully completed all the positions in Monica's striptease dance. There are arrows that let you know which positions have not yet been performed ;)
I've done the dance 100 times, even with the black girl, nothing has changed since always the stool on molly's head...
 

WellAllGood

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This error:
Code:
File "game/00_Functions/01_init_python.rpy", line 748, in extraFunction
    exec (OO00O00O00000O0O0 ,globals (),O00000O00O000OO0O )
ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''
I think is a problem relative to the key activation. Does anybody has this problem o has already solved this?
I've tried with a clean installation and with a new save but the error persist, i don't know what to do
 

vimmers

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I used the activation file that was in the compressed version

EDIT: I tried the file posted by ground_zer0 but its the same file
I've tried with a clean installation and with a new save but the error persist, i don't know what to do
don't you think you shall try the full version
instead of a compressed
i constantly see people there use compressed versions
come here and ask for help
ask the compressor or use the full version

also i suggest
you use a torrent if it's cos of speed you use compressed file
 

raziul

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I strongly disagree with this assessment of Victoria's character. I don't think that Victoria is especially smart. In fact, I'd say that she has about average intelligence. I don't think that Victoria is a brilliant strategist, or that she has outsmarted or outmaneuvered Monica, and certainly not Melanie. I do think that Victoria has a certain amount of animal cunning.

I would say that Monica and Victoria are probably fairly equal in terms of intelligence.

As for Melanie, I think that she's more intelligent than either Monica or Victoria. I think that she's also a better judge of character, and a better manipulator. She's probably just as opportunistic as Victoria, but she's not as ambitious or ruthless.
Well thanks for that long comment. I guess we can all agree that Victoria is a sucessfull Villain when it leads to such discussions. Or we are people who have too much time to waste.

First of all. What I mean when I say smart(or intelligent) or cruel is always within the boundary of the Game Reality of FB. Otherwise I would consider Immanuel Kant or someone like that as the benchmark for Smart and Intelligent. And of course all of this is ignoring the illogic behaviour and plotholes in that game.

In that regard I think Victoria is depicted as an above average smart Character in the world of FB. She plans multiple steps ahead (aka "4D chess") which is visible when she for example is able to outsmart Melanie and Monica as they try to denigrate Victoria at Dick with the compromising Video Melanie believed to have on her phone, while victoria exchanged it with a video of melanie acting like a prostitute which she recorded a long time before. Taking Dick`s birthday as the password to unlock her phone is also a small fracture of the plan to convince Dick that she has nothing to hide from him and let Monica and Melanie fall from his grace.
And yes of couse she had luck of having Marcus as a leverage against Monica and Melanie but she is playing her cards good, keeps her enemies under constant pressure and on top of it enjoys playing the game.
And while its true that without Marcus, Victoria could never have gotten a hold over Monica or Melanie, Marcus is just allmighty because he is. While with Victoria it is shown how she is pathing her way, which makes her more interesting to me.
During the whole time she lays out traps and constantly working on creating situations to gain more influence or obtain compromising material like letting Melanie record that video acting like a prostitute, observing and befriending the people closer to monica to use them against her. Like the workers in the office (here she shows that she has good perceptions on how to charm people) and especially that nerd guy from Monicas Office. This isnt just luck. She works for it and she most often has a long term plan why she is doing those things. As for example when she commands Melanie to get together with the Photographer guy, which she later uses to gain leverage on Melanie and win prestige at the girl-party with the high-society-girlfriends of monica and step up the ladder which seems to be her ultimate goal. Its strategy and not just tactics. Even small details like painting a dick on Melanies picture so the conversation between Alex and Melanie leads to steamy topics and paves the way for Melanie "confessing her lust for Alex". Although I dont know If this can be considered as exactly planned, but Its an example of how its her own intervention in the fortunes of the world and not just pure luck.
So she truly is a spider with a net in which she is pulling the strings which is a cool character design considering that this is a steamy porn game. Also I think her psycho mannerism with forcing people to pretend that they love her is hilarious and sad at the same time. She truly is the embodiment of that shallow world. So godspeed Vicky you pervy empress! Even if you are just a pawn, you are the most interesting pawn.

I have to mention I just have started Part 3. So my knowledge about characters and story is limited at that.

Also sorry for the bad english.
 

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By the beginning of episode 4, I stopped assigning any meaning to the characters. It can be seen that the Monkey has a problem with the continuation of the story and loses the drive. If a DJ did this at a party, so he would change it to dormitory.
 
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Ostego

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By the beginning of episode 4, I stopped assigning any meaning to the characters. It can be seen that the Monkey has a problem with the continuation of the story and loses the drive. If a DJ did this at a party, so he would change it to dormitory.
its only 2 updates (1.5 to be honest)...in ep.3 drops with drive happened too. but in the end we get 3 greatest updates.
 
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TheLecher

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I guess we can all agree that Victoria is a sucessfull Villain when it leads to such discussions. Or we are people who have too much time to waste.
It's possible that both of these are true at the same time.

Otherwise I would consider Immanuel Kant or someone like that as the benchmark for Smart and Intelligent.
Wait a minute. You want to make one of history's leading philosophers the benchmark for smart? I don't think that it's necessary for you to be a thought leader in an entire discipline for you to qualify as smart.

She plans multiple steps ahead (aka "4D chess") which is visible when...
Okay, without addressing your specific examples of Victoria's actions, I'd like to clarify the use of the term "4D chess."

Planning multiple steps ahead isn't 4D chess, or even 3D chess, it's just normal chess. Anyone who is consistently successful in playing normal chess against decent players is regularly planning multiple steps ahead. It's not a sign of special brilliance. Lots of people of average intelligence or slightly higher than average intelligence are able to do it successfully.

As you probably already know, 3D chess is when you superimpose multiple chess boards, so that you have to calculate for vertical movement, as well as horizontal movement. Obviously, this multiplies the difficulty factor considerably.

4D chess isn't an actual variation of chess. It's an expression we use to imply that someone is operating at such a high level that they are beyond the complexity of even 3D chess.

But planning multiple steps ahead isn't enough to qualify as 4D chess. It's not even enough to qualify as 3D chess. It's just normal chess. And that's how I rate Victoria. She's playing normal chess, and she's not bad at it, but she's not amazing, either. She's just an average player who's also the beneficiary of some amazing luck.

And yes of couse she had luck of having Marcus as a leverage against Monica and Melanie but she is playing her cards good, keeps her enemies under constant pressure and on top of it enjoys playing the game.
Keeping your enemies under constant pressure is usually a smart thing to do, but that doesn't mean that everyone who does that is doing it because it's smart, or because they're smart. Sometimes, it's just aggression. Victoria is ruthless, and ruthlessness is often paired with aggression.

As for enjoying playing the game, that's also not an indication of intelligence. Smart people, stupid people, and average people can all enjoy playing the game, and being smarter doesn't make you more likely to enjoy it, it just makes you more likely to be better at it.

I stand by my previous evaluation of her character. I think that you're overestimating her intelligence and acumen. But there's no reason why we should have to agree about it.

So godspeed Vicky you pervy empress! Even if you are just a pawn, you are the most interesting pawn.
She's not the most interesting to me, but she's certainly interesting. I enjoy her scenes and look forward to more in the future.
 
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qazxsw80

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Now after finishing the update I understand why there was so little excitement about it.

Decent Monkey kind of tried a new strategy with this update - instead of making one or two big events (like it was at the end of Ep.3), he decided to produce as many scenes as possible so he can show a lot of spoilers.
But unfortunately the result is that every single event is mediocre at best and cannot hold a candle to the best ones, such the yacht or doll events.

The update for sure failed to live up to the huge expectations of being "the best update ever". Not sure it is even among the top five or even top ten.

I hope the next one will be better, especially the photoshoot with Grace since it is clear now that photoshoots are the best part of the game. Well, since it is called "Fashion Business", that is kinda expected, I guess.:)
 

Alea iacta est

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Very harsh comments lately, considering that literally there is nothing in comparison to this game as baseline for your feedbacks.

The game stadly improved across all the episodes, from a grind fest to a top notch quality scenes and story. Episode 4 is just at the beginning, still another year to go.

Being the last episode it means all the pieces of the puzzle must go in the right place...
 

qazxsw80

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Very harsh comments lately, considering that literally there is nothing in comparison to this game as baseline for your feedbacks.
There is a baseline - other updates from other episodes.
The game stadly improved across all the episodes, from a grind fest to a top notch quality scenes and story. Episode 4 is just at the beginning, still another year to go.
It did improve for sure. The pinnacle of that improvement was Ep.3 V.14 and Ep.3 V.15.
 
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It did improve for sure. The pinnacle of that improvement was Ep.3 V.14 and Ep.3 V.15.
And Ep3 v16. For me, this was hardly the best update in the history of the game. Massive in scope and content, with some very tasty scenes. The best scenes in Philip's Basement quest are Ep3 v16, everything that came out afterward in this quest has yet to come close to the level of what we were shown in Monica's 0 and 1 Day of her ministry.

Awesome group sex scene with Steve, Monica and the two girls. Hard, uncompromising and insanely arousing.

An interesting scene of Monica's meeting with the investors, revealing some spoilers and showing the further development of the main "Office" storyline. The "Butterfly" photo shoot at the investor event was also traditionally good. Yes, I understand that many players have the current unspoken favorite - the "Angel photo shoot" on the yacht and what followed it, but if we talk in general about the level of this type of events, photo shoots are a part of the game that DM does very well.

Linda's Punishment at the VIP Escort. Gorgeously shot scene, pretty hardcore and arousing. A great event that finally showed us a strong Monica (rather than a perpetual victim of blackmail and its attendant circumstances). I'd like to see more of this kind of Monica within ep4. So for me personally there were 3 such great updates - Ep3v14, v15 & v16.
 
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