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[Episode 1.16] Resolving the cliffhanger

Hey guys! This week I started building the new episode in the game engine. It’s really exciting to see it starting to come to life!
The opening scene resolves the cliffhanger ending from the last episode, and is an important plot development.
I find this kind of scene challenging to write, because it’s all about emotion and dialogue (and, as everybody knows, I’m more comfortable writing about food and transport).
That said, I’m excited about how it’s going and I'm excited about the rest of this episode. It feels hot and fresh and interesting.
Storyboard feedback from team and the community members has been positive, and they suggested some really excellent improvements already. I think 1.16 is going to be a good one.

This week elmagio slid into my DMs and asked:
I remember that back in the day, the plan was that once the Agent got to Bangkok, the game would open up and become almost an open world sandbox with a variety of locations and events/activities to partake in at those locations as the player sees fit. I'm curious to know if that's still the plan?

The issue is that this will get horribly complex if there isn’t a stable “base state” for the heroine to return to after each mini-quest.
It’s kind of like Mass Effect: Shepard gets access to the galaxy map once s/he’s a Spectre with a mission and command of the SSV Normandy. The player can hit the galaxy missions in any order; they’re returned to this base state (Spectre, mission, Normandy) after each one.
In Female Agent, the base state will be achieved when the heroine is working as a bargirl. Then we’ll be able to add a variety of sex, spy and NPC quests.
Like Mass Effect, these will be a mix of quickie side quests, and big set-piece missions that advance the story. Some of the quests I’ve got outlines for include:
  • Club quests: hired for sex by various club patrons; entertaining groups in the VIP; doing solo or girl/girl stage shows; general dramas and emergencies at work
  • Kriangsak quests: working for Kriangsak’s escort agency; dates with Kriangsak and his contacts
  • Gang quests: investigating the organised crime gang that’s enmeshed with the club
  • Mission quests: carrying out spy taskings for the Joint Task Force
  • Location quests: training at a muay thai fight camp; visiting beaches & islands; getting involved in the illegal street racing scene; various cool places with quest chains like a charter airport and a gambling barge ; exploring the city and the country
  • NPC quests: spending time with friends, foes and frenemies
Some people have raised concerns that there’s nothing interesting left to do once the heroine starts working undercover as a hooker. I totally disagree, I can’t wait to get to that point, there's so much we can do with it.
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But first, we need to get the heroine there. I’m going to get back to work on the present episode, and I’ll report on progress next week. Have an awesome weekend, guys, I love you all!
 
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belallo

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In Female Agent, the base state will be achieved when the heroine is working as a bargirl. Then we’ll be able to add a variety of sex, spy and NPC quests.
I don't really understand why these quests can't be done while the agent is a bartender? 90% of them are irrelevant to whether you're a hooker or not. But the quests that are about using sex to get info might be interesting to play if you had to make choices about how much the MC is willing to sacrifice to do her job - especially if there was some kind of stat balance you had to manage in order to stay effective as an agent.
 
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I don't really understand why these quests can't be done while the agent is a bartender? 90% of them are irrelevant to whether you're a hooker or not. But the quests that are about using sex to get info might be interesting to play if you had to make choices about how much the MC is willing to sacrifice to do her job - especially if there was some kind of stat balance you had to manage in order to stay effective as an agent.
They can be done before, and the original version (especially the wet tshirt contest) is proof of it. But he doesn't want to. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that, it's just the vision he has for the story (even if I personally would prefer it to be otherwise)
 

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I started new game and found bugs...maybe already known?

wrong version shows up in the browser tab (and save name):
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no headphones here (but they are in the back version of avatar)
...and maybe it's better to change the year to 2022, Dev?
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I started new game and found bugs...maybe already known?

wrong version shows up in the browser tab:
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no headphones here (but they are in the back version of avatar)
...and maybe it's better to change the year to 2022, Dev?
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I feel like the whole game should take place between 2018 and 2019. So nothing COVID-19 related needs to be considered. Who would want to bartend at the Hard Cock Cafe in heels, a thong, and a mask?
 
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So nothing COVID-19 related needs to be considered. Who would want to bartend at the Hard Cock Cafe in heels, a thong, and a mask?
It doesn't matter. Because if you look at films and games developed during pandemic time, there is to 99% no Covid included.
 

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It doesn't matter. Because if you look at films and games developed during pandemic time, there is to 99% no Covid included.
Also by the time we get to that point in teh game we'll all have been killed by Monkey Pox, so it really doesn't matter.
 
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most playtime at this point is probably still 1.6.3. but 1.15.1 is catching up fast. So in a version or two the answer will be different.
 

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I don't really understand why these quests can't be done while the agent is a bartender? 90% of them are irrelevant to whether you're a hooker or not. But the quests that are about using sex to get info might be interesting to play if you had to make choices about how much the MC is willing to sacrifice to do her job - especially if there was some kind of stat balance you had to manage in order to stay effective as an agent.
I am not even sure if being agent should prevent you from doing these quests. If I was an agent and being sent there to investigate, why would I even have time to participate in street racing or why would I want to be a whore? Surely that has nothing to do with the big baddie.

It feels more and more like the actual being an agent part is a restriction at this point. Instead of being recruited before even going to Thailand, it would make more sense if you would just start out as a college girl going on vacation, being stranded there, doing some more or less risky stuff to make money and get approached by an agency on ocasion rather than being an agent first and foremost. It would even make it easier to incorporate the previous life choice chain.
 

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[...] If I was an agent and being sent there to investigate, why would I even have time to participate in street racing? [...]
Allow me to introduce to you one of the greatest movies of all times: Too Fast, Too Furious.
 

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It feels more and more like the actual being an agent part is a restriction at this point. Instead of being recruited before even going to Thailand, it would make more sense if you would just start out as a college girl going on vacation, being stranded there, doing some more or less risky stuff to make money and get approached by an agency on ocasion rather than being an agent first and foremost.
This actually feels like a really good solution. Say you were a regular girl who is trying to get enough money together to buy a ticket to go to your boyfriend who abandoned you to travel around Japan or something. You wind up working in a shady bar, they take your passport, you're being pressured to do increasingly risky things to get it back, and you're developing relationships with the club owners who are trying to tempt you into the criminal underworld while you're trying to leverage those relationships to escape. Then here comes some government agency saying if you feed them the info they want, they'll help you leave, but you're starting to suspect your coworker who vanished didn't just go home like they told you she did...

Instead of having tons of government resources, backup and no logical pressure to do anything corrupt or illegal, now the MC is being leaned on from all sides. It would make more sense why she's being distracted from the main mission by a ton of illegal activities, and why she's more at risk of being lost in Bangkok.
 
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The problem isn't that the protagonist is a spy, the problem is that the way it's written and how it's focused, she's a bargirl playing spy games on her free time.
The potential for an actual spy that *just so happens* to use sex at times to help in her mission exists, but it's not how it's being handled.

If, instead of bargirl, it was for example a "You're sent as an investor/representative for some private investor", it gives much more leeway in what kind of environments and situations you can get in. It *still* gives the opportunity for escort/hooker type of jobs, even in the context of the mission, but it can also give the freedom of your character focusing on meeting people and sneaking into some places.

But of course, that would require much more effort and time so we know it wouldn't happen.
 
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As a deep-cover Donnie Brasco-type story, only with a female agent willing to use sex, I think the latest episode makes absolute sense, really, so not sure I really understand the criticism. Another example is Keri Fox's character from The Americans. We're not talking female James Bond here.

Anyway, I found the departure from the yet-another-college-story incredibly refreshing and the latest episode very well done. Though from what I gather, I guess I shouldn't keep my hopes up for the continuation any time soon, if ever :sneaky:

Though some ways to avoid sex without instant game over, by playing smart or otherwise maybe only partial mission success, would be nice. For me it's way hotter if the PC is capable but willing to cross that boundary, than a brainless bimbo in over her head. But I think the episode went from 1 to 10 a bit fast. Pretty sure the "grooming" period for a bar girl gig, over to full prostitute would be far more gradual, and not start by the boss fucking/raping the prospective girl at the initial interview. But I digress. Obviously, nobody really wants to do a no-sex playthrough in general, but simply having the option makes for a more satisfying gameplay experience. Everyone knows Renegade is the best way to play Mass Effect. You still save the galaxy but have more fun along the way ;) Getting railroaded onto PC always being molested by sleazebag criminals is a bit annoying when it's not something you - the player - aim for.
 
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