the_jaron

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Wow...I just figured this out, but if you accept the mission with Max in Malaysia and have your photo taken and then refuse Connor at his apartment and walk out...you're asked back to Malaysia and get blackmailed with those photos.

Like a short storyline, and it's supposed to be playable in the future with more content.
 
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dasflute2

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I like the ideas mentioned above, that the new girl at the bar will take your job and push you into bargirl, and that that will lead to the bar owners making you move into the apartment of another bargirl which disrupts your ability to communicate with your handlers. I doubt that that will happen (at least soon, though) given the game is building some sort of relationship with Noodle. Unless the result of that relationship is whether you give him a pity BJ when you move out or something like that.

I decided to play the new chapter and it's not bad, but definitely feels very short. But if the cost of relatively quick turnarounds is shorter chapters, maybe that's a better solution. We'll see if he can keep this pace up in the next year.
 

Lasdehnen

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I want to express a couple of thoughts about update 1.17.

It didn't seem short to me. All the action takes place literally in one day, but this is a very busy time. There are a lot of links to dynamic pictures of characters in the text, but for about the fifth time I get tired of clicking on the name and seeing the character's avatar changed. It is possible that the author spent a lot of time on these pictures, but it seems to me that this is redundant work.

I liked the style of the text and the dramaturgy of the game: it became tougher and to some extent more dramatic. I was impressed by several moments: this is the story of a bargirl Ping who came from Isan, a poor region of Thailand, and an episode where the main character asks the bargirl Mem: Your English is great, couldn't you work as a translator? Because no one offers such a job. Another impressive scene in the finale, where the bargirls lead the police on the rich young people with whom they had fun the previous night - because perhaps that would be fairer. Frankly, I'm pleasantly surprised that a game for adults raises such serious social issues. I almost never saw this in other projects. In my opinion, this is a big plus of the game.

Somewhere in previous comments it was suggested that someone was helping Crush with this episode. It seems that this is quite possible. Although it is also possible that during the entire development of the game, the author has significantly improved his skills in dramaturgy and work with text. Given that the game has been literally years in the making, it's possible that the next update will be written at the King Lear level.
 
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Blockout

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It was an okay update.
But we really need to get past the railroading.
What happened with the birthday should be a free time event while you do your regular bar stuff at work.


I also genuinely miss the old sex system.
 

XJ347

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I also genuinely miss the old sex system.
I 100% disagree with you.

The old sex scenes were generic. Literally they were generic, they were copy paste segments of texts that were the same regardless of who you were had sex with. They became repetitive almost instantly. They needed to die in a fire.

The new sex scenes written are overall really good. Only problem with the sex scenes is that there aren't enough of them.
 
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I decided to play the new chapter and it's not bad, but definitely feels very short. But if the cost of relatively quick turnarounds is shorter chapters, maybe that's a better solution. We'll see if he can keep this pace up in the next year.
Relatively quick turnarounds? This chapter was scheduled to be released on 30 September. There were two more scheduled to be released this year: Big Mac & White Russian.
 

cheesepie

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Thanks Crush for the timely update! It totally explains what he's been busy with even with writer's block, such as fixing all the elements like foreign language translations and placeholder images in the White Russian update. Just check out the latest reviews about new mechanics of eating spy pills!

Please don't share this pre-release, still a WIP -
 

thhunter

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Aug 12, 2019
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That scene has explicit developer commentary at the end, that it will receive a path where you can avoid blowing the dealer.
In all the years this novel has been in development, how many alternate paths have been completed from previous updates?
 

ffive

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In all the years this novel has been in development, how many alternate paths have been completed from previous updates?
Were there enough previous releases with missing alternate path and notification these would be added, to draw conclusions either way?
 

leg28

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for change, we can talk about game instead dairy farms, release's deadlines, broken words...
and what we have there: disappointment

first, it is very important to say that i didn't expect masterpiece like john le carre meets digital playground but initial stage excitment about storyline lead us to believe we are going to have decent text based porn game.
we were anxious to see bangkok and... omg... nothing, or (to be fair) almost nothing.

short summary:
- basic idea: excellent
- abandoned mc history from birth until employment: interesting but not much impact
- abandoned preparation for mission in scotland/dubai: more than ok
- bangkok: wtf has happened??? one would expect story explosion after years of preparation but no. no, no

it is evident that dev has problems in story department. put aside milking, whole current bangkok content could easily be written in period between last two updates. my guesses are: either crush has no idea how to develop story in bangkok or he has idea which is not good for him because it is short and will lead game to its end soon.

instead working on story, in desperate attempt to extend life of the game (his incomes), crush is painfully molesting players with endless redesigns of avatar, wardrobe, make-up... which have no impact on game and mostly you cannot see what you choose (eyeliners, lipstick...). it is pretty safe to let your little daughter/sister play with wardrobe changing, as some kind of mini in-game "dress your virtual barbie doll", but storywise it leads nowhere

all this would be different if he was making game in daz hq renders. but he is making text based game and he is run out of text and can't offer nothing except playing with barbie dolls
i understand that writing text based novel is much more difficult than writing dialogues for renders, because there is no graphics to save your bad writing or extend the game lifespan if you have no material. and crush has no material. what he is doing is making full season content out of material for 1 episode.

bangkok story is like idle tourist walking around bangkok, talking with hostel guests (which totally disappeared after initial bangkok update), where you are carefully choosing answers to see which guest will like/love or dislike your answers. but anything you choose leads you nowhere in developing relations with these guests or thai boy noodles and his friends. these charachters (hostel guests mainly) and all interactions with them are useless.

now it is time to talk about choices of mc's actions/dialogue on game. most important, is this choice based game? no it is not. mostly choices have no impact on game. only impact is are you aborting the mission or continuing. choosing attributes and kinks can give you couple more answer choices but in the end they do not make changes on game development neither.
more pointless choices: throwing of dices like this is some virtual board game is riddiculous and leads nowhere.

from my pow, crush should make this game as mostly kinetic novel with only few choices, significant ones. e.g. moving mc to dark side or stay loyal agent, corrupt her to become prostitute or keep her as it is.

but crush will continue with business as usual: delays, changes of avatar, removing/adding items in wardrobe, cosmetics choices, stretching text as chewing gum... and mostly, instead working on game, being active on social networks and extending game's lifespan as much as possible. and who can blame him when hostages are pampering his non-work with crazy amount of money every month
 

leg28

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She was sent in as a bar girl, gets raped and creampied during her job interview and doesn't flinch or care in the slightest. She has sex with her boss every time he wants in his office and event went on a date. Of course it endet it sex. Now she is partying with the other bar girls, taking drugs and hooking up with other people. And we haven't even mentioned the Max-from-Sweden-Dubai-episode inbetween story archs.

How would you describe the Heroines behaviour, if not whorish? The corruption takes place way too fast and without any resistance. That is my main issue. The game has dice rolls, it has skills, it has kinks and now we have some sort of suspision mechanic and none of it matters. None of it offers different choices.

The game doesn't make use of any of these mechanics in a meaningful way. And it's not hard to do so. Remember the scene from the college lifepath where the Heroine was playing games with three of her male friends and ended up giving a blowjob to anyone who wanted one?

Why not have the guys ask her to show them her tits? If she's an exhibitionist, make her do it, or make her roll a dice, if she wants to refuse. Have them ask to show her pussy after that. Another roll of the dice, if you don't want to go that route. Make them ask her to let them touch her. Another roll. If she's promiscuous she's willing go give a BJ or two. Maybe she asks for money and if she's a sub, she backs down from it. Maybe she gets a negative modifier for everything because she's a sub. Maybe the guys even want to go further and want to fuck her. Again, she can do it, or refuse. Maybe they force/rape her anyway and she slikes it, which leads to getting the masochist kink?

There is so much you can do with the kinks, the skills and even the dice rolls. Yet, Crush barely does anything with this stuff and what he does is meaningless. You could do so many different things for most scenes, just by including the mechanics that he wants to be in the game.

By doing that, not only would make use of the mechanics and justify having them in the game to begin with, it would also add some element of roleplay. It would add depth and dimension. It wouldgive the player a reason to play the game again, using different kinks or routes. None of that is a thing.
it is adult text based game/novel, not some classic spy literature novel (le carre, clancy, ludlum...). so you shouldn't look too much for logic. from that pov game idea is very good and whorish behaviour is welcomed. we are here for decent plotline and as much as possible adult content that can be in some degree justified as plausible. all this sex and espionage stuff exists and is covered in many ms stories, movies, series... (e.g. recently watched mini series, based on le carre's book, little drummer girl which has many similarities with crush's story; just no prostitution, little bit of sex, yet sex is with terrorist, and question of fem mc's loyalty in last moment).
if crush did research, read few books and watched several movies he could come up with excellent adult story.
but it was easier to be on social network milking hostages than work.
however you are 100% right about game mechanics, choices, kinks, routes, wardrobe... they are all there, but mostly game would be same without any of it. their only purpose is their constant redesign in order to extended game's lifespan and prolong crush's easy going lifestyle
 
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I started thinking about, how the writing of FA compares to other porn games and my brain produced the following tier ranking on the quality of writing:

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S: Achieves the fabled “Came here to fap, stayed here for the story.” You care about the characters in the same way you care about well-written fictional characters in a tv series or a book. The story grips you. You want to know what happens next. The porn is just the icing on the cake.

A: The game is based on a good idea, which feels fresh. The writing is original/fun/coherent/surprising enough to keep you interested and entertained. Still, you wouldn’t really bother with the story without the porn.

B: The writing is solid, but the story cliched and predictable. Things happen because porn logic. Characters are shallow stereotypes. You meet a sexy cheerleader. She behaves like you would expect a sexy cheerleader to behave in a porn game. You meet a nerdy girl with glasses... etc. Still, the writing gets the job done. It’s a porn game, and you wouldn’t expect too much.

C: There are problems. The way things progress is a bit of a stretch even by porn logic. Quality of writing varies. Characters change their personalities. Someone got tired of writing dialogue and just copy-pasted same answers or wrote weird one-liners. Still, the writing mostly gets the job done. It’s a porn game, and you wouldn’t expect too much.

D: This is retarded crap. Even for a porn game.

E: WTAF?!

F: B-B-But... Why?!!!! ... does this thing exist? How?!!!! ...could anyone come up with something like this?

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Where does FA fit?

IMO the character creation part is S-tier. Like many others, I first came across a build of this game, which had nothing except the (old) character creation. I was hooked. It felt fresh and different. I didn’t know what was going on, but I really wanted to know, what happens next. Of course, when I reached the end I discovered, the character creation system didn't have an actual game attached to it ... yet

Bangkok, IMO, is A-tier. The writing is better than most porn games, but doesn't quite reach S-tier for me. I don't really care that much about what happens to the MC, her co-workers, Noodles, Connor or anyone in the story. Still, maybe it has the potential to be S, if Crush has some good plot twists in his sleeve...

Writing-wise, FA is better than most porn games. It’s a nice little game with a really cool and unique character creation followed by a pretty solid, if linear, text-based espionage corruption adventure.

The problems are in other areas:

- Updates are reeeeally slow for a game that is supposedly in full-time crowd-funded development. This thing started in 2017(?) and in 5-6 years, Crush & team are yet to produce a build that would have both character creation and Bangkok. This is almost comically slow for something which will never amount to more than ‘a nice little game’.
- There is not much by way of an actual game. Just some dice rolls and stats which don't seem to do much.
- There is not much actual porn either. Just the changing avatar and written descriptions of acts. Plus some pictures of scantily-clad female rockers.
 
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