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it is adult text based game/novel, not some classic spy literature novel (le carre, clancy, ludlum...)
I'm sorry but that logic doesn't work, the adult part of novel/games is only one vector of an overall story. You can have it be a main one or a side one that just adds or fits the entire framework. This isn't the case here, the entry into FA is strong. You get a feel that this is a serious engaging spy story right off the bat, the secrecy, the professionalism, the risks are outlined at the start, heck even the title and image sells you a compelling story about a female agent doing work overseas. The plot is engaging, there's interest in it all from start to finish but it's all railroaded. The growth of the FMC is bland typical corruption, with some brief excitement with that swedish guy at the hotel where you get to feel as a sexy agent using what they have to get their claws into their prey, and even then when you get into the sex scene. Our agent just loses all control and when you try to reassert control, the game either punishes you for it or tells you that wasn't the right choice to make. The FMC and the player is essentially being led on into this particular rail with little choice and outside of the main storyline, there's little else let's be honest.

I hope we'll get more options in the future. I'm not optimistic though, if this is where the game got in six years. In six years, far more complicated 3DCG and 2DCG games got more content, depth, and choices.
 
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Is the old 1.6 version worth playing? Does it have more story than the current version?
It have different content - in the old version u have some kind of character creation (her background) with generic-like sex scenes from her youth. In current version u are starting as adult right away.
 
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Is the old 1.6 version worth playing? Does it have more story than the current version?
The 1.6 build mostly covers the same stage 1.11 version does (early and university years, effectively character creation) followed by slightly different intro to main mission, a short training mission and then ends at what is the optional mission in Maylasia in the current release. So, if you've played both the current build and 1.11 then there's little of value you'll find in 1.6 (in the sense you've already seen most of it) But whether it's worth playing is really up to you.
 
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I might start offering video tutorials on Sugarcube if people think it's so difficult. I get the impression that people are picturing Crush digging a 10 kilometer ditch with a plastic spoon while having a 100 kilo weight strapped to his back. He might be doing just that, but the only reason for that is between his chair and keyboard, or more accurately, between his two ears.

His difficulty is actually in coming up with what to write, not with the tech. Just about anybody can make a Sugarcube game if they really wanted to. It's hardly more difficult than writing in Microsoft Word, and you have to fight it less than you do Word.
 

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I might start offering video tutorials on Sugarcube if people think it's so difficult. I get the impression that people are picturing Crush digging a 10 kilometer ditch with a plastic spoon while having a 100 kilo weight strapped to his back. He might be doing just that, but the only reason for that is between his chair and keyboard, or more accurately, between his two ears.

His difficulty is actually in coming up with what to write, not with the tech. Just about anybody can make a Sugarcube game if they really wanted to. It's hardly more difficult than writing in Microsoft Word, and you have to fight it less than you do Word.
Oh I´m up for this sugarcube tutorials. The current ones often sucks for newbs:love::cool:
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Oh I´m up for this sugarcube tutorials. The current ones often sucks for newbs:love::cool:
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Long term plan then, since I am actually working too much to do it right now. If I do it with proper presentation on YouTube it has the possibility of being worth my time in revenues. I doubt that #sugarcube will bring in the viewers since only a small audience knows what it is, but if presented right it has a chance.
 

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Oh I´m up for this sugarcube tutorials. The current ones often sucks for newbs:love::cool:
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It's probably better to start with and , since Sugarcube is just one of extensions on top of Twine. The are mostly useful for details like proper syntax and options for functions, APIs etc once you have rudimentary grasp on basic concepts.
 
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My first project, several years ago, was actually in regular old Twine. After a while, I wished I had done it in Sugarcube instead, and then did. Nowadays, I mostly use more generally useful languages such as Python since Python skills are vastly more portable.

If someone says they are struggling to get things done in Java, I can sort of get that, or getting their graphics done on time in Daz 3D or doing things in Blender. There are devs that work with these relatively fast, but not someone who started fresh a week ago.
 

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If it has zombie-like life then maybe it's because mockery, rejection and trashing do poor job as actual rebuke. After all, what would you be rejecting and mocking, exactly? A good advice to make allegedly easy living with good income?


That's great news. Care to provide some names and/or links? If what you've done is better then there's very good chance i'll enjoy it.
No need to bring zombies into this.
 
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Just saying, if somebody knows a legal way to make more money than they otherwise could, that they can do and want to do, and they decide not to do it, there's a phrase for that: financial irresponsibility. I kind of look at it the same way that fast food works. They make billions of dollars selling food that is far, far worse than what I could make cheaper at home, sometimes basically selling poison under the guise of food, when E. coli lingers in it. Still, nobody is forcing people to buy fast food in most cases. Fast food restaurants found a way to offer an inferior product in a way that outcompetes superior products. Can't blame them. Can blame the consumers, but there are more of them than there are of me. If they stampede, I'm a goner, especially the 400 pounders.
Damn it I read 400 pounders as massive burgers and now I'm hungry.
 
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Kevin is braver than I am, as everyone can see. That said, I would donate to Girl Life if only it were possible. I would proudly work on it if I wasn't already swamped with work.
Donate to tfgames if you want as they host our git which allows us to more easily work on and make GL. But we don't, won't take money for GL. It is and always will be 100% free.

Quit your job, then you will have lots of time to come work on GL with us.
 

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Donate to tfgames if you want as they host our git which allows us to more easily work on and make GL. But we don't, won't take money for GL. It is and always will be 100% free.

Quit your job, then you will have lots of time to come work on GL with us.
Will do! Everyone will understand I think. If not, I will tell them Nutluck said it was ok, and then they will get it.
 

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Hey, feels like half of all games at this point squeezed in some zombies in attempt to cash on the fad. Might as well try it in a forum thread.
We don't have zombies in GL, other than the one working on the game named Kevin.
 
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