HTML Female Agent [v1.20.1p] [Crushstation]
- Apr 12, 2022
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I like the atmosphere he tries to create regarding the restaurants, bars, clubs and city exploration, but everything else about this project just leaves me derrièrehurt.
Well, I would say things are a bit more complicated than that. While what you describe has and still does happen since probably the beginning of media. There is a difference between picking something new up not licking it and then complaining about it and being a long time fan of something only to see it change to chase a new audience while alienating the old fans. Especially if this also proves to be an economically bad decision, where the new version looses way more old fans than it gains new ones. Just look at how many box office disasters Disney has produced in the last few years. That kind of also proves that it isn’t always the minority (at least not the minority of those willing to spend money on something) that is complaining. I can understand why people get really angry about having one of their favorite thing turned into something they hate and why they feel the need to vent. The internet is in the unfortunate position that it simply is the least risky place to vent your negative emotions.
Sometimes it feels like those big budget content creators know they can no longer produce quality content and so decide to try milking established fan bases of a few bucks before those realized the have been duped. But then again the atrociously large budgets they really only have a snowball’s chance in hell of recouping are a pretty big contradicting factor. Maybe humanity just collective lost the ability to learn from failure and change their approach when something doesn’t work? Or at least the ability to remove people, who are incapable of learning, from positions of power and influence before something catastrophic happens. Would explain a lot about the current world.
But back on topic, I don’t think the lack of content creation is the biggest problem given how much good content was created only to be removed again. Yeah, the extensive character creation of earlier versions clearly couldn’t receive more than a wink and a nod in the actual game but it was pretty interesting in its own right and was a great opportunity for role playing and justifying your later decisions. On that note, I hope he makes proper use of the great setup he has create for getting the MC into prostitution. They whole Emilia is pushed by her boyfriend and obviously insecure and vulnerable, coupled with the explicitly stated threat that one of the barmaids would have to move on to prostitution or be fired just screams sadistic choice. Either our agents puts her foot down stays a bargirl and sees Emilia coerced into prostitution or she compromises her integrity and dignity much further still to spare her that fate for now. I think that would be a fairly believable way to justify the MC agreeing to prostitution. Would also give her handlers reason to worry whether she gets too emotionally attached to her colleagues and whether that might jeopardize the mission as the MC is making decisions no longer on just what is most expedient for the mission but also takes her fellow bargirls' wellbeing into account (which will clearly be at odds with what is best for the mission).
I think this is the only reason to be here on a regular basis, and it's the only reason that I am here either. The most compelling topic at hand for most of FA's existence has been the schedule (2nd most compelling: development strategies), and I have to wonder about any who haven't made up their minds about that yet. Every time I see something about FA content itself, it turns out to be content that is purely linear and otherwise too simplistic to hold up a conversation for long. Still, I see a vast range of opinions, and this has always made the thread more interesting. Normally the praise that I see is vague or questionable, and the critiques of the content are detailed and striking enough that I know I wouldn't like new-format FA. I'm not telling anyone what to do, mind you, but just remarking on why I've been here for a while. Most of the creativity associated with FA has been the posts here.
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I certainly wouldn't call Crush a scammer. I think scammers wouldn't offer as many vulnerable spots as Crush did.
Crush is someone who had an idea for a game that many people liked. People are usually quite forgiving, if they get the feeling that somebody tries. That is the issue, though. Does he really try? You can get away with certain things, but only so often and only for so long. I even understand that there is no real incentive for him to finish the game as this is his income, but then again, he is alienating people by not doing much.
The times between updates is one thing. There are other games that only have two or three updates a year, but usually they are big. They offer content. Crush hypes everybody up for months and only delivers a few pages of text.
His refusal to learn is what most people hate, I think. His lack of decision making. His lack of a vision. He comes up with multiple mechanics that don't do anything, for only to abandon them one update later. At this point the game is a straight forward novel with no player agency at all. I still don't understand why Crush hired an artist to produce makeup for the avatar. While I do like Lovely Victorias art, does a game like this need that? Especially when most of the in game pictures are AI generated?
What is even more frustrating is the fact that he manages to do something, I did not know was even possible. I get the feeling that the story seems rushed and is stalling at the same time. How is that possible? There are moments when the agent is being rushed from one thing to another and then again nothing happens for ages. It is almost worthy of praise to achieve that.
For someone who claims to have been a project manager this game is poorly managed, though. I never developed anything, but even I can see where things are going wrong. It is astounding.
At this point I follow this game and keep an eye on it to see where it ends up. In the mean time there are plenty of other games that actually go somewhere. Sadly the vast majority gets abandoned at some point. I guess this is why people are kind of glad FA still exists. There is still hope.
Crush is someone who had an idea for a game that many people liked. People are usually quite forgiving, if they get the feeling that somebody tries. That is the issue, though. Does he really try? You can get away with certain things, but only so often and only for so long. I even understand that there is no real incentive for him to finish the game as this is his income, but then again, he is alienating people by not doing much.
The times between updates is one thing. There are other games that only have two or three updates a year, but usually they are big. They offer content. Crush hypes everybody up for months and only delivers a few pages of text.
His refusal to learn is what most people hate, I think. His lack of decision making. His lack of a vision. He comes up with multiple mechanics that don't do anything, for only to abandon them one update later. At this point the game is a straight forward novel with no player agency at all. I still don't understand why Crush hired an artist to produce makeup for the avatar. While I do like Lovely Victorias art, does a game like this need that? Especially when most of the in game pictures are AI generated?
What is even more frustrating is the fact that he manages to do something, I did not know was even possible. I get the feeling that the story seems rushed and is stalling at the same time. How is that possible? There are moments when the agent is being rushed from one thing to another and then again nothing happens for ages. It is almost worthy of praise to achieve that.
For someone who claims to have been a project manager this game is poorly managed, though. I never developed anything, but even I can see where things are going wrong. It is astounding.
At this point I follow this game and keep an eye on it to see where it ends up. In the mean time there are plenty of other games that actually go somewhere. Sadly the vast majority gets abandoned at some point. I guess this is why people are kind of glad FA still exists. There is still hope.
Totally right?! I suppose it's because they were literal babies when they started subscribing and now they're upset that there's no enough to fap to in adulthood.
Only legends can leave obviously real reviews like: "Players are not just participants; they are active protagonists within the game's expansive world, where every decision made and every action taken resonates within the intricately woven narrative. The game's creators have meticulously crafted a universe filled with diverse characters, intricate lore, and compelling dialogues, allowing players to truly lose themselves in the storyline."
The best part of the update is the bit where our Agent decodes the cipher, only to find the twist where she's DEVILFISH and everything was a dream within a dream. Only when you get the right dice roll will this unlock, and you'll only get a chance for unlock if you chant: "Crush is always right, all critics are dumb" x3000.
- May 25, 2017
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lol no. The game is progressing and you can't reconcile wanting a return to lifepath and current content updates.
Which is why I suggested another editor and community contributions. We already know how Bangkok begins so, for continuity, this can only be vanilla filler content.
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1.11 for life path or 1.6.3 for the recruitment mission. They're really good! But they are tangential to the game that people pay to play.Am I right in saying that you love the developer's work but you just want more?
It doesn't feel like he does, for the last update he said 5 straight months he was working 8-10 hours a day, every single day, to get the update out. Then when it came out it felt like it had been written by a philosophy student who had forgotten to write their weekly summary of that weeks chapter of "The Critique of Pure Reason." I know that desperation because that was literally me in college lmao.
- Mar 26, 2017
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Meh. Idk
I used to be quite into the game when the premise still was actual choices.
But the more it went on the less choices there were.
And even worse the work at the club is actually getting tamer as it progresses which makes no sense.
Oh and obviously the continuity of her "corruption" has been really bad since the last update.
I wouldn't even miss the "life path" aka customisable origin story if I got actual decisions in the game.
It shouldn't be up to Crush to determine whether the MC is a femme fatal or a church mouse.
I understand what you're saying, though I transitioned from considering what someone else can develop, to what I can do as a developer. It's made a tremendous positive difference. It's also easier to do than ever before.
- Jul 6, 2023
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I think main character just need to get one simple thought: there are no barmaids in such bar. She may only be bargirl or barmaid/bargirl. That's it.
Any choice (ok, we know that there are no choices in this novel, but still) that she made doesn't matter in a long run.
Club needs money, because it's a business and they can't afford any barmaid that is not bargirl
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I think grown men whose lives revolve around consuming, and then getting offended by, children's media like Star Wars and superhero movies are sad tbh. We truly live in a society. #joker #weed
- Jan 30, 2022
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This is 100% ChatGPT, but it is so unbelievably blatant that I doubt it is Crush. Probably just a whiteknight who got angry seeing a bad review, but tbh it might even be a detractor leaving black propaganda. You can't tell
Truly this game is the Yandere Simulator of adult games, complete with this type of absolutely hilarious drama.
"I am a heckin serious CIA operative and while I was down with torturing people at Qatari black sites and overthrowing governments, I absolutely draw the line at sucking dick and getting railed. I didn't join the CIA so that I could do utterly harmless things that I very much enjoy and do in my spare time for fun. I am not a monster!"
You do underestimate how arbitrary humans can be, especially when it comes to this happens to me, that to somebody else I hate or can at least convince myself that I should hate. Not to mention that physical pleasure and mental pleasure is not the same, a woman can actually orgasm while being raped and that tends to be especially traumatizing to the victims, because of all the doubt and self loathing that tends to induce. Few people understand that the body just reacts to stimuli and doesn’t bother asking the conscious mind for permission.
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Besides what the main character worries about is explicitly stated: no longer being respected because of the way she obtained the information and having to live with the fact that future colleagues might have gotten their first impression of her by watching basically very degrading amateur porn. Lastly she is no operative, she is an analyst which is a job were you do not expect to actually do anything besides watching videos, reading files and writing reports.
- Dec 16, 2017
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I think the problem is, that he changed the story too much. If you played the previous versions, you might think about them as background while playing this version. In the previous versions, you had the chance to create an operative character, which did several missions and then had sex on camera as training for Bangkok. If you play this version as a new game and forget about the old ones it fits (better) but it's hard to forget.
- Jul 6, 2023
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I think the one of the problems of this novel is a motivation of the main character (MC)
Why the heck I should agree to such mission and allow lowlifes to fuck me?
Do I, as an officer have I self respect?
It would much more interesting if we would have some history between MC’s family and terrorists from devilfish group. Like MC brother’s death or something similar. In such case MC will have a motivation to do anything to get this bitch. This is a one route
Or MC is a chivalrous idiot making that for the Greater Good. Second route
And so on. It’s easy to make such routes with complete opposite motivation and character traits. Like rpgs works, you know
but what we have after 5 years of active development? Fuck this novel
Why the heck I should agree to such mission and allow lowlifes to fuck me?
Do I, as an officer have I self respect?
It would much more interesting if we would have some history between MC’s family and terrorists from devilfish group. Like MC brother’s death or something similar. In such case MC will have a motivation to do anything to get this bitch. This is a one route
Or MC is a chivalrous idiot making that for the Greater Good. Second route
And so on. It’s easy to make such routes with complete opposite motivation and character traits. Like rpgs works, you know
but what we have after 5 years of active development? Fuck this novel
Just accepting the fact that the game is a linear novel and all aspects of an open world are gone, I think the game in general as it stands now, for what it is, is quite good. Crush (mostly) has good writing and the art is good. There's tension at certain parts and (again, mostly) he's good at establishing atmosphere and emotion.
The problem is the turnaround time, though again at this point no one should be surprised at that. I hope the second to last update, which not only was just way too short but also committed the cardinal sin of not fitting in with the characterization thus far (one of the positives that Crush had going for him) was a wakeup call. The newest update was fine, if he can get focused and churn out something like that once a month, I think that would be a good balancing act moving forward.
FWIW I also don't think that Crush is a scammer, I think he's just deeply insecure and incompetent and tries to make everything perfect which results in him making perfection the enemy of good, and then just reinforces his self-doubt and double-thinking himself each time.
I don't really play a ton of games here any more but for all its faults, Female Agent is one of the few ones I do come back to for every new update. He undoubtedly does have an idea and a broad outline for a game with a solid hook. It just makes it all the more frustrating that he can't really live up to the great idea.
The problem is the turnaround time, though again at this point no one should be surprised at that. I hope the second to last update, which not only was just way too short but also committed the cardinal sin of not fitting in with the characterization thus far (one of the positives that Crush had going for him) was a wakeup call. The newest update was fine, if he can get focused and churn out something like that once a month, I think that would be a good balancing act moving forward.
FWIW I also don't think that Crush is a scammer, I think he's just deeply insecure and incompetent and tries to make everything perfect which results in him making perfection the enemy of good, and then just reinforces his self-doubt and double-thinking himself each time.
I don't really play a ton of games here any more but for all its faults, Female Agent is one of the few ones I do come back to for every new update. He undoubtedly does have an idea and a broad outline for a game with a solid hook. It just makes it all the more frustrating that he can't really live up to the great idea.