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Good ole MFAGA! :giggle:

I didn't remember this part:

"Bad personal management. I’m living on takeouts and trucker pills, and getting drunk to
tune out the stress. This is obviously not helping me, but more importantly it’s not helping
the project."


How much of a drinking habit does he have these days? If he's still getting drunk regularly and popping pills to stay awake, that would be one explanation for the slow output ...
 

Senor Smut

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I wasn't around when the game began or MFAGA was written, and reading it now is just...dear God, it's sad. To me it seems plain that Crush didn't start this project out with any ill intentions at all, he was just a gamer who wanted to make a game (and which of us hasn't had that desire?). But he was inexperienced and stubborn and wandered deep into the weeds, and on the way out he realized that he could get paid to do basically nothing and not have to have a real job: the resolution to his personal anguish was fraud.

Well, the road to Hell and all that.

When he talks in that document about streamlining things that are still not streamlined, it makes me think of all the times over on Discord where I urged him to abandon the idea that this is a game. It's not a game, it's never going to be a game, it will always be a kinetic novel. And again, being a kinetic novel is not bad or an insult, it's a neutral descriptor. Recognizing this project as a KN will immediately manage audience expectations in a positive way and align his rhetoric (which up until now has been nothing but pure, refined, highly concentrated bullshit) to reality. He keeps saying that we're on the edge of the sandbox part of the game, but...seriously? Sandbox? If he finds absolutely linear writing as difficult as he claims to find it, then a sandbox would make his head explode.

Seriously, if you aren't familiar with his Discord, you should check it out. You've got people over there clamoring for the return of the Lifepath, and Crush is always like, "Oh yes, that's definitely in the works"; you've got people suggesting new mechanics when the existing ones do nothing and likely never will do anything; you've got people suggesting new traits when existing traits only very occasionally let you see a little different text that has no bearing on the course or outcome of anything. The lack of contact with reality over there is cultlike.

And the worst part? Crush keeps saying that we're still in the Prologue of the game. Five years in and we're still in the fucking PROLOGUE? His squeeing fans get very upset when you point out how utterly repulsive that statement is.
 

robin312

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It's not a game, it's never going to be a game, it will always be a kinetic novel.
He keeps saying that we're on the edge of the sandbox part of the game
As a programmer after looking into the code I confirm it
Crush uses wrong tools: he uses modification of the engine that created for simple (I mean really simple) novels, but to code RPG he needs to use another, more complex modification, that requires real programming knowledge

So stop dreaming about RPG, as for open world? Maybe Crush AI will code it for us in N years

The real tragedy here that Crush can't even write story with a good pace. Writing is not a simple thing, but if you are not programmer, learn how to write a decent text

Just in case of comparison Stardew Valley was made in 5 years by a single person
 
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MrAnarchy

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I wasn't around when the game began or MFAGA was written, and reading it now is just...dear God, it's sad. To me it seems plain that Crush didn't start this project out with any ill intentions at all, he was just a gamer who wanted to make a game (and which of us hasn't had that desire?). But he was inexperienced and stubborn and wandered deep into the weeds, and on the way out he realized that he could get paid to do basically nothing and not have to have a real job: the resolution to his personal anguish was fraud.

Well, the road to Hell and all that.

When he talks in that document about streamlining things that are still not streamlined, it makes me think of all the times over on Discord where I urged him to abandon the idea that this is a game. It's not a game, it's never going to be a game, it will always be a kinetic novel. And again, being a kinetic novel is not bad or an insult, it's a neutral descriptor. Recognizing this project as a KN will immediately manage audience expectations in a positive way and align his rhetoric (which up until now has been nothing but pure, refined, highly concentrated bullshit) to reality. He keeps saying that we're on the edge of the sandbox part of the game, but...seriously? Sandbox? If he finds absolutely linear writing as difficult as he claims to find it, then a sandbox would make his head explode.

Seriously, if you aren't familiar with his Discord, you should check it out. You've got people over there clamoring for the return of the Lifepath, and Crush is always like, "Oh yes, that's definitely in the works"; you've got people suggesting new mechanics when the existing ones do nothing and likely never will do anything; you've got people suggesting new traits when existing traits only very occasionally let you see a little different text that has no bearing on the course or outcome of anything. The lack of contact with reality over there is cultlike.

And the worst part? Crush keeps saying that we're still in the Prologue of the game. Five years in and we're still in the fucking PROLOGUE? His squeeing fans get very upset when you point out how utterly repulsive that statement is.
The discord is incredibly toxic.
 

rbx4

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I've been largely absent from this thread lately because everything associated with FA seems more like a relic of the before-times prior to ai, even the brand of forum drama that was my source of entertainment here. I considered even the early life-path version of FA to be promising but inferior to other games that did similar things. I don't like anything that I've seen or heard about the reboot. Game development is highly rewarding and I strongly recommend it, however. I can have anything that I've ever wanted from a game of this genre.
 
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menatv

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I first got hooked onto this game *because* of the lifepath. I thought, "wow, we have a game here that actually will take into account your background and choices here will be meaningful." Well....since that has been taken out of the game, there really isn't a lot of meaningful choices left in the game. If any at all.

So probably won't bother playing until if/when it is implemented back into this game.
 

prawnstar700

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At this point, I think it's important even a squeeing fan ask, is there a plan to reach at least one ending? And if so, how many updates before we get there? Doesn't matter lifepath, dice roll, avatar with a million expressions... At a historical rate of 3 releases per annum, assuming ending is at version 1.30, that's easily 3+ years away.

When we started this journey, FA was worth a fap. I'm legit worried that by the time it ends, the equipment may not work. By equipment, I mean my laptop of course. Let's Make FA Great Again Once Again (MFAGAOA)! Might I suggest a key difference is to pause Patreon after each missed deadline until delivered? I repeat, Crush is NOT a scammer. Because I say so.

Go make your own game if you disagree, but not Blue Swallow or Girl Spy.
 

Senor Smut

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At this point, I think it's important even a squeeing fan ask, is there a plan to reach at least one ending? And if so, how many updates before we get there? Doesn't matter lifepath, dice roll, avatar with a million expressions... At a historical rate of 3 releases per annum, assuming ending is at version 1.30, that's easily 3+ years away.

When we started this journey, FA was worth a fap. I'm legit worried that by the time it ends, the equipment may not work. By equipment, I mean my laptop of course. Let's Make FA Great Again Once Again (MFAGAOA)! Might I suggest a key difference is to pause Patreon after each missed deadline until delivered? I repeat, Crush is NOT a scammer. Because I say so.

Go make your own game if you disagree, but not Blue Swallow or Girl Spy.
Blue Swallow looks to be following up on the promise that Female Agent failed to deliver, and produced in six months a volume of content that Female Agent has barely exceeded in, what, coming up on six years now. Girl Spy is a parody but still shows how a competent dev who isn't trying to milk the process can produce FA-style and quality content; Lobsterman9999 said he hadn't worked on it very long to get the release out the door, and while there haven't been any updates since the initial release, one can hope.
 

robin312

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Go make your own game if you disagree, but not Blue Swallow or Girl Spy.
Although I cannot lay an egg, I am a very good judge of omelettes
- Bernard Show
Ideas and their implementation are very different things. And FA is the best example of it. I am very happy that some more competent people want to make something similar to FA
 

Geffe

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Not sure I agree that they are more competent. Quicker perhaps, to get content out. I think Female Agent's writing is significantly better than Blue Swallow, even with its flaws (not into trans stuff, so I haven't bothered with Girl Spy).
 
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vicaddict

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Not sure I agree that they are more competent. Quicker perhaps, to get content out. I think Female Agent's writing is significantly better than Blue Swallow, even with its flaws (not into trans stuff, so I haven't bothered with Girl Spy).
The writing style might be different, but I think mostly it is the presentation that is different. Other than that BS offers everything FA does and most importantly: kinks and skills matter. Decisions matter. Even the prologue offers multiple variants that make the game replayable. One can argue that there are bugs or that not everything is balanced out, but everything the game offers, actually does something. That and they have done more in six months than Crush has in 5 years. Depending on where they want to take the story, it is not unreasonable to think that they will have caught up to Crush or will even overtake him by the end of 2024. And that includes an entire lifepath, multiple choices, paths, skills and what not. So in terms of who is more competent, it isn't even close, even if BS stopped development tomorrow.

FA is just a novel with an illusion of half a dozen mechanics that aren't even real or don't do anything. Heck, there are still scenes that use placeholder images after x years, because Crush never looks back and cleans up his mess. Quite frankly, I am surprised that he did not rush a Christmas update, but then again, the next update should be due around February and AFAIK he hasn't announced what it's going to be.
 

Mogremier

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I'll admit 1.6.3 seems a bit better in my eyes,

Though I've yet to come across a link for it (download) in order for me to play offline. Was wondering if anyone here knew if the offline version still exists

Thanks
 

TheDeviant

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I'll admit 1.6.3 seems a bit better in my eyes,

Though I've yet to come across a link for it (download) in order for me to play offline. Was wondering if anyone here knew if the offline version still exists

Thanks


A lot of the images don't seem to work anymore though...
 
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hligahudiaunf

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"short standalone mini-episode, Zero Kate Thirty" available on patreon for free, but it looks like it has no sexual content at all, just a bit of see thru :KEK:
 
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Geffe

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Of all the plot lines/content they could have been working on, they made this? I guess if they ever put the lifepath back in this will work as part of the operator path.
 

prawnstar700

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Of all the plot lines/content they could have been working on, they made this? I guess if they ever put the lifepath back in this will work as part of the operator path.
Mind-blowing, exceptional and the stuff of legends! To literally get Nov AND Dec releases, that is unheard of in the world class game development scene. If this pace keeps up, we might actually have a complete game in this lifetime™️.

Of course, implementing such mechanics is essential to the game because what is lifepath without death? To silence all the naysayers, Crush gives you multiple endings in one standalone game. So what if all of them end with getting unalived?!

I came to play lewd games for the REALISM!

P.S. If Crush ever reads this, please just finish one plotline? Fingers crossed, maybe with more than one live ending? My Christmas wish was a 2024 "complete" tag for FA.
 

Gyzul

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Female Agent will never be fixed, here's why:
1) Crush sees financial gains, they're positive. Therefore he's doing right job.
2) Crush sees diehard fanboys licking his arse in discord. To him they're not fanboys, not cultist, to him they're fans. Therefore he's doing right job.
versus
1) Crush sees criticism(let's be honest, often brash and toxic) aimed at his work. It doesn't make him feel good. It challenges his ego. It says things contrary to what other sources(pleasant ones) telling him. He dismisses it as weird pirate gamers talking smack.

Same thing with Bethesda's Fallout/Elder Scrolls/Starfield. Financial gains makes investors and higher-ups happy, Bethesda cultists are happy. Therefore anyone who's not happy just doesn't understand the inner kitchen of AAA game development.
That, however, doesn't mean that product is of good quality. Look at Starfield.

So, in a way, Indie game development has matured into AAA. There is less and less difference between the two.
I don't think this will ever get fixed, other games with their small or big problems will never get fixed because they will continue to make money and fanboys will continue fanboying. If you don't like the game for 100%, you will get talked down or asked to "Leave, if you don't like" or "Try to make something yourself first, then talk" or other logical fallacies. Naysayers are evil. It's either you're ALL IN or ALL OUT.

It's your choice to invest your time and emotions into games, small or big, but objectively it just doesn't make sense anymore to give your time to those people.
Let them brew in their own acid. Fanboys and haters alike.
 
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