prawnstar700

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Female Agent will never be fixed, here's why:
1) Crush sees financial gains, they're positive. Therefore he's doing right job.
2) Crush sees diehard fanboys licking his arse in discord. To him they're not fanboys, not cultist, to him they're fans. Therefore he's doing right job.
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1) Crush sees criticism(let's be honest, often brash and toxic) aimed at his work. It doesn't make him feel good. It challenges his ego. It says things contrary to what other sources(pleasant ones) telling him. He dismisses it as weird pirate gamers talking smack.

Same thing with Bethesda's Fallout/Elder Scrolls/Starfield. Financial gains makes investors and higher-ups happy, Bethesda cultists are happy. Therefore anyone who's not happy just doesn't understand the inner kitchen of AAA game development.
That, however, doesn't mean that product is of good quality. Look at Starfield.

So, in a way, Indie game development has matured into AAA. There is less and less difference between the two.
I don't think this will ever get fixed, other games with their small or big problems will never get fixed because they will continue to make money and fanboys will continue fanboying. If you don't like the game for 100%, you will get talked down or asked to "Leave, if you don't like" or "Try to make something yourself first, then talk" or other logical fallacies. Naysayers are evil. It's either you're ALL IN or ALL OUT.

It's your choice to invest your time and emotions into games, small or big, but objectively it just doesn't make sense anymore to give your time to those people.
Let them brew in their own acid. Fanboys and haters alike.
I'm glad you touched on quality! FA isn't perfect, despite long dev times. Whatever happened to being objective? Don't they teach critical thinking in schools anymore? It's neither love or hate to find a bug, it just IS. That's why I went back 2 years to find 6 release dates, the speed and quality is what it is.

What I hope MOST can agree on is the quality of writing. We all came here because we like it. Hopefully, Crush can take that as encouragement to do more of that? But the main difference between AAA and indie is that AAA studios USUALLY release a complete game, and that's something I fear FA will never reach.

Even in a bad example like Cyberpunk, you can go back and patch a game till it's stable. But a game without content or ending is simply abandoned, there's too many example on this site here. So objectively, why aren't the fans pushing harder for any ending? Do they fap, but hate to nut?

Personally blame it on social media because the algorithm just wants to feed you more of what you like. Who doesn't like praise? Not much choice though, because the platforms want you to stay online to sell your eyeballs to advertisers.
 
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aifgamer

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The Christmas ep reminds me how good Crush can write.
Yeah the game is clearly becoming a kinetic novel now but I view that as a positive development since the dev is obviously a better writer than a programmer. 2023 was one of the most productive years the game has had, in that at least the project moved forward and not backward.

Which means we're probably days away from an announcement that he's going to reboot everything.
 

gymnopedies

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Which means we're probably days away from an announcement that he's going to reboot everything.
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new reboot is coming
:ROFLMAO:
 

I-No

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[...] the dev is obviously a better writer than a programmer.
The writing was good in the past but recently I am seriously doubting Crush's writing skills. Apart from that skill not only implies the writing quality itself but also the output. And in this respect the situation is a very sorry one... I mean seriously, a few photographs, a preprogrammed avatar, and above that just some plain text. Dude, that is not enough!
 

Victor069

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Hello,
I just discovered the christmas special of female agent. Is there any other ending then the "She Wolf" one (or getting shot)? Somehow it seems to me so, because it is titeled in the end like: You reached the She Wolf Ending.
 

xgrotesc

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Hello,
I just discovered the christmas special of female agent. Is there any other ending then the "She Wolf" one (or getting shot)? Somehow it seems to me so, because it is titeled in the end like: You reached the She Wolf Ending.
"She Wolf" is the only "good" ending available.
 
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Alleykatt

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I though the side game was great. Really enjoyed it. I would love to see more of that sort of thing in the main game to give a change of pace.
 
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shuiko

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has he updated anything recently hmhm i ain't checking his pateron or what not anymore

I wish there was actually a game like this not necessary about spy, but female protag that had lots of content. The Paperdoll/pictures help. Just text makes me snooze sometimes.
 
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JustForPorn12

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Blue Swallow looks to be following up on the promise that Female Agent failed to deliver, and produced in six months a volume of content that Female Agent has barely exceeded in, what, coming up on six years now. Girl Spy is a parody but still shows how a competent dev who isn't trying to milk the process can produce FA-style and quality content; Lobsterman9999 said he hadn't worked on it very long to get the release out the door, and while there haven't been any updates since the initial release, one can hope.
holy shit, blue swallow is so much better than this crap. not sure how it slipped by me
 
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TBCheese

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holy shit, blue swallow is so much better than this crap. not sure how it slipped by me
Unless something has changed, BS is still all hype. It's at the exact same spot FA was a few years back, with all updates having been for the prologue ('lifepath", "introduction", "tutorial", whatever you'd like to call it) and no actual writing taking place for the game proper. As far as I recall, they also said the next update was going to be more prologue stuff, specifically adding college after a gap year (even though they already have a college arc and could just link to it).

Crush has his issues (lots of them), and he set the bar so low with the rewrites that you could dig a tunnel over it, but he's now doing the bare minimum and actually writing the game: content that follows the premise of "Woman goes to foreign country to work as a spy and gets into sex-fueled situations because of it." Currently, BS sits at the same amount of actual content as FA's first lifepath; you learn about the BBEG, have a final target for success, and make it to the foreign country (or at least the airport). That's it.

BS has the same potential that FA did, but we've already seen that having potential isn't everything. Maybe BS will be amazing and become everything FA could have been. Maybe there will be a BS patreon post in a few months about how the prologue was written to be too complex, and they will be doing a full restart. All I know is that if someone says they have an idea for a great spy story with sex, but they spend ages just writing a CYOA about high school and college, I'm not going to pat them on the back for their "progress".
 
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