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I wanted to add also the exact type of logical fallacy that you correctly cited: It is called "Appeal to accomplishment" and is technically a type of Genetic Fallacy (fallacies of irrelevancy that reject a statement based on the source instead of the statement itself). One nice example of it:



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Yet, this fallacy gets a great deal of mileage around here from people who rely entirely upon it. There's nothing new about that. There are recorded occasions of rejecting it from as far back as 1791, and I wouldn't be surprised to find rejections of it earlier than that.
Thank you very much. I knew it wasn't an appeal to authority, but couldn't be arsed to search through the types of fallacy to nail it down more precisely. English 101 was a looooong time ago for me. I appreciate you.
 

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OK. In bold yellow text to highlight the microaggression you have suffered.

Keep pretending to hate this game and the developer. But you're all still here refreshing and edging for an update for the game you love.
No, we are all still here because by this point comments and various attempts to defend Crush are far, far more interesting and fun than his game could ever be... even if he does one day figure out what he want to do with it.
 

boobthief

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No, we are all still here because by this point comments and various attempts to defend Crush are far, far more interesting and fun than his game could ever be... even if he does one day figure out what he want to do with it.
Yeah, so pretty much just a cancel mob trying to defund the developer.

Unwilling to accept that the game you want to play typically updates three or four times per year you compete with each other to be the most negative calling the game a scam, a MLM scheme, and hating on the developer.

Because this thread is majorly negative, it looks like I'm the last person left who is a fan of this game. I think that's because anyone who wants to discuss the game just doesn't want to deal with your SBI narrative-controlling toxicity.
 
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Yeah, so pretty much just a cancel mob trying to defund the developer.
Yeah my man we're out here trying to CANCEL this PROBLEMATIC developer by uh... *checks notes* asking why he's taking so long to update his CYOA coomer game that people pay monthly to. Someone please save poor Crush from this cancel mob consisting of like 10 people on f95zone asking why he's stuck on the same Thailand mission for literal years now.
 
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I would love if crowdfunding platforms would cancel creators for jerking their subscribers around for 5+ years. Only banning creators for failing to censor their content adequately just creates a perverse incentive to do as little as possible.
 

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I've always found the panic over negative feedback here funny, though it's fitting a pattern now. If it was an actual serious issue with a realistic chance of happening, they wouldn't care at all. Since this "cancel" issue is fabricated, has never happened before, and has no chance of happening, they're going to fight against this figment until their last breath.
 

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Yeah my man we're out here trying to CANCEL this PROBLEMATIC developer by uh... *checks notes* asking why he's taking so long to update his CYOA coomer game that people pay monthly to. Someone please save poor Crush from this cancel mob consisting of like 10 people on f95zone asking why he's stuck on the same Thailand mission for literal years now.
But you're still here, posting. You can't just move on and play and support other games. No, you love this game, so much you can't let it go.

From what I can see, specifically you are not yet circling the toilet, hating on the developer, calling this game a scam, calling this game a MLM scheme.

But maybe you want to dive head first into the failed creatives mob and justify their impotent hatred... for emote likes?

Either way, my man, *checks notes*, you will come crawling back to play the next update. You will won't you?
 

boobthief

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I've always found the panic over negative feedback here funny, though it's fitting a pattern now. If it was an actual serious issue with a realistic chance of happening, they wouldn't care at all. Since this "cancel" issue is fabricated, has never happened before, and has no chance of happening, they're going to fight against this figment until their last breath.
Says the person with the secret game that's so good you're ashamed to name it as your own.

Why do you not address me directly? Oh yeah... because last time you played victim so hard you tried to pretend your life was in danger.

I still wish you the best of luck with your game. It's harder to create than to destroy... probably why you're posting here instead of making your own game?
 

rbx4

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Says the person with the secret game that's so good you're ashamed to name it as your own.

Why do you not address me directly? Oh yeah... because last time you played victim so hard you tried to pretend your life was in danger.

I still wish you the best of luck with your game. It's harder to create than to destroy... probably why you're posting here instead of making your own game?
A few reasons exist for why I usually don’t respond to you, mainly because your posts get deleted occasionally, along with responses. You’re also not distinguishing your hoped-for fantasies from reality. Regardless of what you actually are or are trying to do, any negativity associated with FA is increased by your presence since you won’t let the posts go. Also, others said you were flirting with me so you should stop that.
 

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A few reasons exist for why I usually don’t respond to you, mainly because your posts get deleted occasionally, along with responses.
Got it: You want to showboat for likes, play to the hater crowd, keep sniping at me until I respond.

You’re also not distinguishing your hoped-for fantasies from reality. Regardless of what you actually are or are trying to do, any negativity associated with FA is increased by your presence since you won’t let the posts go.
I would like to discuss this game without all the usual toxic suspects piling on. From what I know, I don't think F95 is an anti-developer forum. So I merely respond when it gets super toxic here.

Also, others said you were flirting with me so you should stop that.
Who said that? You think this is flirting?

Hey, serious talk, like last time, I'm going to stop arguing with you because I honestly don't think expressing these views you're in a good place mentally. If you can't find anyone else to help you, believe it or not, I will try - DM me here.
 

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Unfortunately, you haven’t “got it”. Still, you’re the only reason why I’m still around the thread. The gymnastics that you go through to lose gracelessly are amusing even if some ai models outperform you. If you were on my side in a debate, I would abandon that side, but I would sit in the audience to watch you miss even easy slam-dunk points.

*and yes, a moderator “said that.” Please go argue with moderators.

Got it: You want to showboat for likes, play to the hater crowd, keep sniping at me until I respond.



I would like to discuss this game without all the usual toxic suspects piling on. From what I know, I don't think F95 is an anti-developer forum. So I merely respond when it gets super toxic here.



Who said that? You think this is flirting?

Hey, serious talk, like last time, I'm going to stop arguing with you because I honestly don't think expressing these views you're in a good place mentally. If you can't find anyone else to help you, believe it or not, I will try - DM me here.
 
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Unfortunately, you haven’t “got it”. Still, you’re the only reason why I’m still around the thread. The gymnastics that you go through to lose gracelessly are amusing even if some ai models outperform you. If you were on my side in a debate, I would abandon that side, but I would sit in the audience to watch you miss even easy slam-dunk points.
Keep hating on anyone else. It won't make you happy.

You're not happy now, right? Offer to DM me is open when you're ready: I think you are spiralling into negativity. Keep punching, I can take it, let me know when you're tired and ready to talk.
 

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Maybe you two should get a room... I'd suggest booking one at the HCC and tag-teaming Kate, but that's not possible since she isn't a bargirl yet and probably won't be this year.

For a game that's been in development for seven years, we have a spy who has made zero progress on her main mission and won't even give us the satisfaction of becoming a whore as promised. We do, though, have a new avatar and some nice descriptions of Lumpini Park and scenic Bangkok.

Someone need to be fired for ineptitude, but maybe it's not Kate.
 

rbx4

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Keep hating on anyone else. It won't make you happy.

You're not happy now, right? Offer to DM me is open when you're ready: I think you are spiralling into negativity. Keep punching, I can take it, let me know when you're tired and ready to talk.
I am actually happy, since I made the points I needed to make. However, please take it to DMs for the sake of others (I won't respond).

*Though if you really want to cheer someone up intentionally, go cheer up Crush. I've seen a lot of misery in Crush posts and Crush seems like someone who legitimately needs help.
 
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Either way, my man, *checks notes*, you will come crawling back to play the next update. You will won't you?
What updates will there even be to play? A couple sentences about being groped in a Thai bar? There's nothing to love here except maybe the concept, and I think Crush knows as much.
I've played through this game a total of 2 times, the first being several years ago and the second last month. It was boring as hell, and I'm a person that can usually find enjoyment in even bad h-games.

Truth is, putting your creative work out there is a hard thing to do. But that doesn't absolve you from criticism. You will likely be putting out crap, like the vast majority of people who make any sort of content. And even if you aren't putting out crap you will still receive criticism.
The proper response is not to run to hugboxes or lash out at the critics who may or may not be accurate in their complaints, but to put your head down and work hard to make something worthwhile.
The attitude you have is very typical in amateur content creator spaces (amateur writers will know) and it's encouraged by both the creators and their fans. They're too caught up in the awesomeness of their ideas and never bother to wonder how to properly communicate those ideas to their audience. I'm not saying you should doomscroll through all your haters' posts 24/7, but that remaining in comfortable hugboxes is often a death sentence for creativity and motivation.
 
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