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XJ347

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I think what people trying to say is that both game debut in 2017 and GGGB managed to conclude with a huge amount of content.
It's hard to compare the two.

It's clear why that is. GGGB has static characters with no initial customization telling a well made proper but limited choose your own adventure story. The bigger GGGB got the bloat slowed development down. At the end people were starting to get annoyed with the pace of her game because she would only have time to do one small branches story.

This is the Skyrim vs Witcher preference. Witcher 3 has no customization, but a rich story that is engaging. Skyrim story is SUPER generic, but it allows for customization which people, including I love. Thing is you can't do both unless you dump a shit ton of time and development into it, which porn devs cant afford to do.

Female Agent has customization which means it is much harder to write a story for and code. It's a mix of a sandbox that leads into a narrative story. I love the immersion this story has in the beginning but once the story gets going it gets disappointing. Specifically the sex scene descriptions given out generically, and are not unique for each sexual encounter. The problem is that it's hard to write a good sex scene when my character can be a skinny petite with a B cup and someone else has a 7 foot tall with a G cup. Sadly the differences make sex different and to deal with that you need skill and more time devoted to the sex scenes.

So I agree with you that this complexity is slowing down development and making a worse product. Don't get me wrong I like this game but each sex scene needs to feel different, and erotic. Sounds like the developer is now trying to redesign the game to have better sex scenes (whatever that means.) Sadly we don't know what that means. Is each sex scene going to be unique or continue with a modular system following a TITS style sytem? This has to be solved before the game can really continue, which means we are in for a long wait.

For me, the best case scenario is rewriting ALL the sex scenes to be unique. Note, you have to re-code the game to get rid of the old school modular system which people seem to be think makes boring erotica. That is a HUGE undertaking, going to take months. From then on writing new sex scenes that account for different sizes and such which is a slow process. I think it's going to take a long time to get there.

I hope this game makes it but it's in a bad place, and this stems from complex customization.
 

HeelsMaiden

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I just want a game where we play as a female spy with options to seduce enemies/targets ala James Bond and this is the closest game that I can find. It sucks that the development is very long but when someone is the only one (to my knowledge) trying to create a game fulfilling my fantasy then it's hard to get angry at them.
 
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Bearded_NoPants

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So maybe I'm looking in the wrong place or doing it wrong, but the IMAGE PACK was not in the OP so I looked around and this is the link I found on the patron.

Now if I can get the HTML with patreon access I'll be golden.
 
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ScarletCrow

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So maybe I'm looking in the wrong place or doing it wrong, but the IMAGE PACK was not in the OP so I looked around and this is the link I found on the patron.
MEGA
Now if I can get the HTML with patreon access I'll be golden.
You can take the public version and remove the kink limit in character creation and increase the value of history.maxStates so you can use the back button. Not sure how to add back the largest size tits, I was never interested in that, tbh.

Sadly this forum doesn't allow attaching html file in post. I would attach my edited file if that's not the case.
 

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You can take the public version and remove the kink limit in character creation and increase the value of history.maxStates so you can use the back button. Not sure how to add back the largest size tits, I was never interested in that, tbh.

Sadly this forum doesn't allow attaching html file in post. I would attach my edited file if that's not the case.

would that be line 3252: $pc.kinks to new Set(),
and change it to: $pc.kinks to new Set(10),


and for history.maxStates it's line 2216: Config.history.maxStates = 1;
change to: Config.history.maxStates = 10;

It this correct? Thanks by the way.

EDIT: Yeah line 3252: $pc.kinks to new set (),
is not where you set the kink level, so I remove line 3252?
 
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ScarletCrow

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What worked for me was:
1. Line 89739: Change "Array.from($pc.kinks).length gt 1" to "Array.from($pc.kinks).length gt 99" . Technically, you can change to whatever number, as long as it is higher.
2. Line 25373: Similar stuff, change "Array.from($pc.kinks).length == 1" to "Array.from($pc.kinks).length >= 1"
3. Line 2216: Change "Config.history.maxStates" to higher number. The older patreon version shared here seems to use 35.
 
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Axelgrey

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I got E boobs to work in the image pack version.

What you're looking for is:

"$pc.braSize neq "34DD" change it to "$pc.braSize neq "34E" in two places it shows. (around line 89320-89340)
In tables below those lines add
"<<elseif $pc.braSize eq "34DD">>
<<set $pc.braSize to "34E">>"
Also twice (once for each table).

Then you search set "setup.braSizes to" twice as well (they are one above the other around line 40500)
And edit the tables below those lines to include 34E as such (mind the comma to be added after DD if you edit manually - missed it myself on first approach):

"'34A',
'34B',
'34C',
'34D',
'34DD',
'34E']>>"
 
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ScarletCrow & Axelgrey :unsure:

Hmm... I don't know if I'm doing it wrong but when I use both your lines of code and separately I get an error message instead of the Family History button.

Error: <<if>>: assignment operator found within <<if>> clause (perhaps you meant to use an equality operator: ==, ===, eq, is), invalid: $pc.intelligence.score gt 0 and $pc.attractiveness.score gt 0 and $pc.coordination.score gt -2 and Array.from($pc.kinks).length = 1


No worries thought. If I cant get it? I cant get it. Thanks for the old college try though.
 

Osodrac13

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Too slow, we'll need to die and reborn to play the utopic full version of this game. Developer, please teach how to develop games to your future grandson
 

ScarletCrow

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They created some sort of task tracker on monday.com. But again, all of these management gimmicks don't really mean anything actually. In fact, it's kinda discouraging to see weeks passed by and not even a single task moved to "Done". I mean like, what is wrong? Are they not breaking down the tasks right, or what? How come a task called "Name Kate's hostel" been stuck on "Working on it" for weeks? So many tasks are on "Started" or "Working on it", but nothing is getting done. What does "Working on it" even mean, then?
 

Jamie Aisling

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I used to support this game when actual progress was being made back when it was first released. That it's been years and we haven't even gotten to the 'real' part of the game is insane. If you support 10$ a month (because that's the minimum required to get the early access, I remember this because I lost my early access when I was paying 5$ a month) then in six months you could've bought a AAA game. And since this game's updates come out after months of being dead with 'UI Improvements' and a freaking suntan option it's ridiculous to support them which sucks because this premise hits my fetish button straight on. I can only assume they're going so slow so they can soak up those sweet, sweet patreon bucks. It's become a money grab.
 

boobthief

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I used to support this game when actual progress was being made back when it was first released. That it's been years and we haven't even gotten to the 'real' part of the game is insane. If you support 10$ a month (because that's the minimum required to get the early access, I remember this because I lost my early access when I was paying 5$ a month) then in six months you could've bought a AAA game. And since this game's updates come out after months of being dead with 'UI Improvements' and a freaking suntan option it's ridiculous to support them which sucks because this premise hits my fetish button straight on. I can only assume they're going so slow so they can soak up those sweet, sweet patreon bucks. It's become a money grab.
So... you're not paying for it and you think other people shouldn't support the development because you say the staff aren't working fast or hard enough for you. Is that an accurate summary?

Do you need to speak to the manager?
 

MidaHanna

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When it takes 8 to 9 months to write a single scene, yeah I guess people that were paying are right in their mind to stop supporting. Again, the developpement rate is very slow compared to the means Crush has.
 

memoefe

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So... you're not paying for it and you think other people shouldn't support the development because you say the staff aren't working fast or hard enough for you. Is that an accurate summary?

Do you need to speak to the manager?
So... criticising the dev team and cutting your support and giving them feedback of their mistakes is a bad thing now? Is that an accurate summary?
 

boobthief

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So... criticising the dev team and cutting your support and giving them feedback of their mistakes is a bad thing now? Is that an accurate summary?
Yeah, absolutely, if you are associating yourself with remarks from the previous post such as:

'I can only assume they're going so slow so they can soak up those sweet, sweet patreon bucks. It's become a money grab.'

I think that's offensive.

Don't pretend you're providing any kind of constructive criticism or actionable feedback if you are, essentially, trying to cancel their game or sometimes their livelihood by telling others not to support them in their efforts because it doesn't meet your personal satisfaction.

If you have gotten to the point where you feel like you are owed a game release and the developer is purposefully frustrating your enjoyment then, please, stop, find a healthier interest for yourself.
 

MidaHanna

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I mean, if the guy pledged money over the course of several months without seeing any progress. (Reminder that it's been 3 years of developpement and were still not outside of the tutorial...) then yeah, you are kinda OWED something, something else than the developper maning empty promises (because as of now, thats what they are.). You gave money for a product, you have a right to complain.
 
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I mean, if the guy pledged money over the course of several months without seeing any progress. (Reminder that it's been 3 years of developpement and were still not outside of the tutorial...) then yeah, you are kinda OWED something, something else than the developper maning empty promises (because as of now, thats what they are.). You gave money for a product, you have a right to complain.
Except you didn't. That's not how Patreon works. You gave the dev money because you believe in his or her vision and want to support that. Getting something out of it is just a side benefit.

And, as others have said, if you don't feel like supporting the effort is worth it, then don't. I've certainly canceled my support of projects before.

But please don't pretend saying, "this is a cash grab" is any sort of valuable feedback, because it isn't, and you know that.
 

ScarletCrow

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Yeah, yeah, Patreon should be thought as donation blah blah, all that shit. People can argue about this ad infinitum, honestly. There were a lot of feedback coming already, and none of them seems to have any effect. The devs made promise many times, that it will be faster after we finish this, it will be smoother after we finish that. But all of those promises are still empty promises. We haven't seen any acceleration in the development pace at all. If anything it becomes slower. Scenes are becoming more complex and taking more time.

Like okay, the latest update, the upgrade to the Dubai scene, it was pretty good, so it makes sense to want to upgrade all the existing scenes into that same kind of approach, but does it have to be now? Do they have to add "regional" school uniform now? Add more hometown? I mean, seriously, who really prefer more hometown over Thailand content? If this is how they prioritize things, then I can understand how people gonna see it as cash milking. It's like when AAA dev spend time creating cosmetic DLCs over fixing bugs in their damn game or adding new content.

People won't complain so much about no Thailand content, if the devs added new content at all. Like they add new stuffs into the lifepath or whatever, that's okay too. But what they're doing these past few months are upgrading, upgrading, and upgrading. Like they said they wanted to add tattoo parlor, wanted to add threesome vignette, more kink vignettes, where are all those stuffs? Finding new content in the game shouldn't feel like searching for some hidden paradise island that promises immortality, or whatever.

They said that they would spend their time into making Thailand happens the next update, but now seems like the dev is struggling for weeks upgrading one scene again. Like, come on. I still check the game once a week or so, and almost see no progress in new content. No acceleration in pace.
 
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memoefe

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It is still critism, an angry one but critism. He has rights to 'assume'. If their patrons think of the project might be a cash grab, they either overpromise or underqualify, or maybe he is right and this is a cash grab.

Tbh as much as i love this project and this dev. I think he makes little to no progress in story to make people believe this not a cash grab.
 
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