CassieBare

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We got a graphical update to the release schedule before we got another step forwards in the story. did he get Victoria to draw this too so the fancy colours and pretty pictures would distract the supporters?
Mother of All BS is right on the money.

I wanted to take this chance to remind everyone that White Russian was supposed to be released on the 31st of October, 2022
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So...almost two years behind schedule?
 

Deniz31

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Worst thing is there's no direction or vision. Just goes with what people come up with recently. "Oh, lots of people talking about lifepath, let's return to that!".
 

Senor Smut

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Graphical update...who gives a shit? It's a paper doll -- admittedly a high-quality paper doll, but it can never transcend the limitations inherent in the form. This game is not about graphics -- he's already rebooted once for graphics and it added essentially nothing. This fucking guy, I tell you.
 
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Graphical update...who gives a shit? It's a paper doll -- admittedly a high-quality paper doll, but it can never transcend the limitations inherent in the form. This came is not about graphics -- he's already rebooted once for graphics and it added essentially nothing. This fucking guy, I tell you.

It's not really "extra work", it's pretty obvious "lovely illustrator Victoria" is bored out of her mind and improves on some previous work just because she doesn't have anything else to do. I don't think there has been a single patreon post that has said something along the lines of "It would be ready now but illustrator Victoria hasn't finished some illustrations yet", at most, it has been (multiple times in fact) "I only had one outfit planned but illustrator Victoria made three"
 

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It could be a good game, yes. Sadly it isn't. Then again, it has spawned a few spin-offs or inspired others to create games with a similar premise. You can even find them on the last few pages of this thread and I think they are far better in execution and making progress at a much faster pace than the original. FA has been surpassed by them already, which is quite telling, considering that they have been in development for a few months only.

FA is in its 7th or even 8th year and with the announced reintegration of the lifepath I can guarantee you that it will take another two years, before any progress will be made. Quite frankly, I'd go out and say that it will lead to a complete reboot of the game for a third or even fourth time, because there is no way you can integrate that stuff within the existing framework.
I drastic disagree, is a good game and one of things i love about this game is its pace. But i don't know about how much slow the updates come or anything beyond the fact i played the game a lot in the last couple of days.
By this "FA is in its 7th or even 8th year" you mean this game is being developing for 8 years? if that is really the case that is sad, i just started play this week, loved the game.. but at this rate i'll never see much of it anymore. And looks like patrons would be with reason to get angry .
 

orellion

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I drastic disagree, is a good game and one of things i love about this game is its pace. But i don't know about how much slow the updates come or anything beyond the fact i played the game a lot in the last couple of days.
By this "FA is in its 7th or even 8th year" you mean this game is being developing for 8 years? if that is really the case that is sad, i just started play this week, loved the game.. but at this rate i'll never see much of it anymore.
Two things can be true at once. Is it a good game? Yes. Is Crush planning to retire on this game? Yes.
Luckily, there are thousands of other games on here to play to bide your time between the updates.
 

vicaddict

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By this "FA is in its 7th or even 8th year" you mean this game is being developing for 8 years? if that is really the case that is sad, i just started play this week, loved the game.. but at this rate i'll never see much of it anymore. And looks like patrons would be with reason to get angry .
This thread was started in 2017, so yes, it has been in development for at least seven years. Most of us will never see the final release, because most people here will not last that long. Neither will Crush for that matter.

The irony is that he claims to have been a project manager, so he should know how timelines and schedules work. Either he is the worst project manager ever, or the best. Depending on, if the project was to finish the game or to drag it out for as long as possible as that is the source of his income. I'll let others be the judges on that.

Eiter way, you are free to enjoy the game of course, but don't expect anything more for the next two years. Now that he has decided to bring back the second (?) version of his game and combine it with the third (?), there is to chance in hell that it gets done before that. Like I said, I am sure he will reboot it again, because both versions of the game won't go together, unless he starts all over again.
 

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I usually find in my experience that project managers whose only skill is to project manage, suck. They delay things inevitably because they are praying for someone else to do the work. If you want things done you need to be someone who gets things done, and has the skill set to do those things OR who is willing to learn and then do it. This takes a good amount of initiative and self sufficiency that most project managers lack, otherwise they would not be dictating shit and just do it themselves. When someone tells me they are a project manager, my first thought is... oh so you're a lazy mother fucker. got it.
 

Senor Smut

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This thread was started in 2017, so yes, it has been in development for at least seven years. Most of us will never see the final release, because most people here will not last that long. Neither will Crush for that matter.

The irony is that he claims to have been a project manager, so he should know how timelines and schedules work. Either he is the worst project manager ever, or the best. Depending on, if the project was to finish the game or to drag it out for as long as possible as that is the source of his income. I'll let others be the judges on that.

Eiter way, you are free to enjoy the game of course, but don't expect anything more for the next two years. Now that he has decided to bring back the second (?) version of his game and combine it with the third (?), there is to chance in hell that it gets done before that. Like I said, I am sure he will reboot it again, because both versions of the game won't go together, unless he starts all over again.
Exactly this. He's already said that his MOABS will necessitate not only a full lifepath (which till take him at least 18 months and likely more to complete) but also reworking most of what he's written so far, which will be at least the work of another 18 months -- and I do mean likely more time for both of those, so it will probably be another four years before a ny story progress is even attempted, at which point he will go radio silent for six months because he's working SO hard, at least THIRTY HOURS A DAY, TWELVE DAYS A WEEK and doesn't have time to update the plebs on what he's doing. Of course somewhere along that line he will discover that either A) previous decisions have rendered impossible what he planned to do, or B) technological changes have made the old code obsolete, and therefore he will abandon the lengthy soft reboot he's now embarked on in favor of a hard reboot that sends him straight back to square one. Kate will NEVER bargirl.
 
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I usually find in my experience that project managers whose only skill is to project manage, suck. They delay things inevitably because they are praying for someone else to do the work. If you want things done you need to be someone who gets things done, and has the skill set to do those things OR who is willing to learn and then do it. This takes a good amount of initiative and self sufficiency that most project managers lack, otherwise they would not be dictating shit and just do it themselves. When someone tells me they are a project manager, my first thought is... oh so you're a lazy mother fucker. got it.

Being a good project manager is really hard because, among other things, you have to predict the future.

Being a bad project manager is REALLY easy because, among other things, you can ignore the future.


Really, it's not about being lazy or not. It's about being content with saying "Sorry, it will be done soon, one of these days" again and again.
 

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The irony is that he claims to have been a project manager, so he should know how timelines and schedules work. Either he is the worst project manager ever, or the best. Depending on, if the project was to finish the game or to drag it out for as long as possible as that is the source of his income. I'll let others be the judges on that.
He also claimed that he left his job so he can focus on FA full time... but based on the skills he presented over the years, it's more likely he got fired due to total incompetence.
 

dasflute2

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Graphical update...who gives a shit? It's a paper doll -- admittedly a high-quality paper doll, but it can never transcend the limitations inherent in the form. This game is not about graphics -- he's already rebooted once for graphics and it added essentially nothing. This fucking guy, I tell you.
It's also kind of ridiculous because the art is already good, Victoria is a good artist and adding in the images (and well-drawn 2D images rather than CGI or AI stuff or reusing existing porn photos) is one of the things that adds to the appeal of the game and sets it apart from other text-based games like Blue Swallow. Especially in recent updates when Victoria has started illustrating other characters, group scenes, sex acts at the club, etc. - that has all added a lot.

It's a classic Crush thing of needing to improve something that's already pretty good rather than fixing some of the many incomplete parts.
 
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It could be a good game, yes. Sadly it isn't. Then again, it has spawned a few spin-offs or inspired others to create games with a similar premise. You can even find them on the last few pages of this thread and I think they are far better in execution and making progress at a much faster pace than the original. FA has been surpassed by them already, which is quite telling, considering that they have been in development for a few months only.

FA is in its 7th or even 8th year and with the announced reintegration of the lifepath I can guarantee you that it will take another two years, before any progress will be made. Quite frankly, I'd go out and say that it will lead to a complete reboot of the game for a third or even fourth time, because there is no way you can integrate that stuff within the existing framework.
What games are similar? I love FA, but good god the lack of updates are insane.
 
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The man has skills to fool thousands of people for literal years into believing he's competent, and you think he couldn't trick a single boss? /s
No, because unlike those idiots who still give him money that boss would ask for some actual result... not to mention that a project with a deadline might also have some penalties tied to it if the deadline is not met. If the company he worked for was forced to pay up fines due to his incompetence it's more then likely he would get fired. Especially if it happened more then once.
 
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vicaddict

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What games are similar? I love FA, but good god the lack of updates are insane.
They have been mentioned here in the past and are regularly suggested at the bottom of the page as a similar thread. Since it is technically against board philosophy to advertise other games I will just point you in the direction of Bob69 and CassieBare

They each take a different approach to the concept, but have achieved more in mere months than Crush has in years.

Except for their bank accounts. I have to admit that is the one thing I really admire him for. He has somehow talked people into giving him ~7,000 every month for years without anything in return. If you take away Patreon's Cut and whatever he is paying Queen Victoria, he is probably making 3-4,000 whilst doing noth-, uh I mean working full time on the game.

You know, people would not even be half as mad, if he was honest. Just come out and say that you can only produce 2-3 pages of text every few months and nobody could blame you for it. But constantly saying that you are working full time for months and still only being able to release the same 3 pages of content, is just insulting. Especially since he keeps delaying them time and time again. If you broke it down, I'd wager that he barely comes up with a single sentence per day. Which is why I am convinced that he does nothing and then goes into crunch time like the week before the release. Just like a lazy student would do in school when a paper's due and then asking the teacher for a bit more time. For him, it has worked so far.

And yet his cultists are paying him and keep defending him; they are actually enabling him. Say what you will, but he has figured it out and you have to give him credit for that.

Funny thing is, this post probably contains more words than he produces in a fortnight. And I am not even getting payed for it! Maybe I should be the one creating a Patreon Account, so I could charge you for writing critical posts every now and then. Think of it as outsourcing! You could do whatever you want with your time and pay me a small fee for doing it for you! Anyone interested? I'd be working full time on it! Promise!
 
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