Recommending Femdom Finder

[scoobzz]

Maybe I'm wording everything poorly, but it really isn't the exclusion of games I'm striking up a conversation about as much as it is calling what game is and isn't femdom. Not to dismiss a huge chunk of what you wrote but I guess I don't really have any issue with it.

How exactly is femdom to end up sucking a cock? In forced-bi the female is a token character simply there to facilitate you giving pleasure to a male! Not only you need to be bisexual for that to have any appeal, but it also takes the female into a secondary role and transposes into a homoerotic maledom situation. I don't think everybody into femdom needs to have a bisexual orientation. There are people who are subs towards both females and males, but I would categorize porn focusing on that as "bi-dom", not "fem-dom". This list is not about bi-domination, its about femdom. Its not me excluding anyone, its the theme itself which excludes some things. What's next? Someone will come and complain that I excluded male-on-male porn from a list on femdom?

Because it's a woman that's telling you to do it, and that's all that it needs to be femdom. It's interesting you regard the female as a token character in this scenario, because if anyone is a token character, it's the other nameless male who is being ordered by the dominant female to receive oral from another man with no regard to their orientation either. It isn't necessarily bi either, though many who specifically seek this fetish are probably bi-curious (but again, that's the world where fantasizes over what they enjoy).

It's the fantasy that you could be so submissive to a dominant woman you'd bend your sexual orientation to obey her (i.e. "forced" bi). If there's no woman in the scenario then it's no longer femdom. It's a very cut and dry definition.

 

[Tuanorgas]

I was considering the appeal of the whole Forced Bisexuality fetish because I also noticed it is quite popular, especially among some Dommes.

Well, It's just a hypothessis, but men tent to enjoy lesbian porn so there is no reason for women to not enjoy gay porn. The popularity of Yaoi (Boy Love) Hentai among young girls suggests that some of them they do. Forced Bi is basically real life gay porn with added benefit of forcing the sub to do something he does not necessarily enjoy. So I can see the appeal at least for the Dominatrix while not for the sub (unless he is actually bisexual).

I almost didn't recognize you with the new avatar, where's the cute anime girl gone?

I was looking for that meme and end up liking it too much I want a woman to shout knives at me

 

[Aseratrix]

Maybe I'm wording everything poorly, but it really isn't the exclusion of games I'm striking up a conversation about as much as it is calling what game is and isn't femdom. Not to dismiss a huge chunk of what you wrote but I guess I don't really have any issue with it.



Because it's a woman that's telling you to do it, and that's all that it needs to be femdom. It's interesting you regard the female as a token character in this scenario, because if anyone is a token character, it's the other nameless male who is being ordered by the dominant female to receive oral from another man with no regard to their orientation either. It isn't necessarily bi either, though many who specifically seek this fetish are probably bi-curious (but again, that's the world where fantasizes over what they enjoy).

It's the fantasy that you could be so submissive to a dominant woman you'd bend your sexual orientation to obey her (i.e. "forced" bi). If there's no woman in the scenario then it's no longer femdom. It's a very cut and dry definition.

I don't think disregarding the sub's sexual orientation is cool. Assuming that a heterosexual dominant woman would want to see some male on male porn is not warranted in the first place. Why would the woman who is dominant and hetero at the same time get off on you sucking a male, rather than putting herself, and her sisters into your focus?

Also isn't it a tad bit curious that maledom fans don't have to deal with maledom where femdom is forced on them via lets say the same mechanism you propose for bi-dom in femdom? Neither are they plagued with a whole slew of futadom games where the futas would only use their [supposedly existing] pussies to dominate...

I just don't get it from the pov of here there is a perfectly nice female ready to dominate you with her own sex, make you pleasure her, make you do things for her directly, and yet...let us see you suck some cock real fast instead. Why? That sounds as if the female is not ENOUGH to dominate and humiliate you, but she needs some male around to do it for her....

Also, as I said before: based on your criteria, even maledom can be seen as femdom if a woman "orders" you to dominate her, which besides being completely unappealing to a male sub, it must also proportionately be unappealing to a dominant female, and it also defeats the very notion of a female expressing domination, which should be as much part of any femdom definition as catering to her wishes is: the female herself must have sadistic, dominant desires which involve her and her sex, not elevating a male above another male, and especially as it is with these games, exiting the picture right after that, leaving the MC completely in a gay universe. <- in cases like the latter, doesn't it obviously seem that the female was simply needed to set you up with some dudes? Like in most sissification games on this site?

I also disagree that most heterosexual sub males are bi curious. I'm afraid we can only agree to disagree on this one.

Personally I don't want any other male for miles around "my" femdom. If someone is bi-curious, he can do that without using a token female's order as a shield to be able to say "no homo".

Look it may be complicated for you and I am sorry about that. But I really don't consider forced-bi to be in the center, the heart, the core of the femdom genre. It may contain it as I said on its fuzzy edges, but I use a more restricted, more female-centric and female-focused approach in this list. Finally as others already said, this does not stop games which contain forced-bi, futadom, heck even maledom appearing on the list. It only affects games which are/were to fully dedicate themselves to one of these fetishes which will not be featured here. Technically that means, that our disagreement will only have an effect on you, if you are after games with an exclusive focus on forced-bi.

 

[Aseratrix]

I was considering the appeal of the whole Forced Bisexuality fetish because I also noticed it is quite popular, especially among some Dommes.

Well, It's just a hypothessis, but men tent to enjoy lesbian porn so there is no reason for women to not enjoy gay porn. The popularity of Yaoi (Boy Love) Hentai among young girls suggests that some of them they do. Forced Bi is basically real life gay porn with added benefit of forcing the sub to do something he does not necessarily enjoy. So I can see the appeal at least for the Dominatrix while not for the sub (unless he is actually bisexual).

I was looking for that meme and end up liking it too much I want a woman to shout knives at me

Yeah, maybe as a form of pure torture it makes sense from a dominant female's perspective, but I would still expect her to prioritize her sex above the involvement of another male. Plus there are plenty of ways women are able to humiliate a male thoroughly without a need for forced-bisexuality or forced zoo-sexuality. In fact, I would leave forced sexual orientation bending things completely out. As a hetero sub male I am attracted exclusively to females, I don't think its entirely fair not to expect a hetero dominant woman to also be mainly interested in male subs herself.

Be it as it may, I said my piece multiple times. And games like Earn Your Freedom will only be considered femdom over my dead body! Well on this thread at least.

 

[Innocience]

I don't think disregarding the sub's sexual orientation is cool.

I'm going to pin you down on that comment a bit; Weren't you the one, that was adamant on the stance, that the choice of becoming a full-time slave should be between the Sub and Domme and anything is fair game when it is handled, understood and agreed upon by both sides beforehand?
Where's that sudden shift coming from? When your mistress wants you to get banged by another guy you suddenly forget your place? Whatever your mistress says, goes, does it not?

Back to topic:
I feel both your and the more open perspective of dominance are valid. Though, I have to confess I'm also far more leaning towards the idea that a female in power itself is an act of dominance, regardless whether that involves a third, fourth or fifth participant of any gender.

My Gretchenfrage thus:
If a game, which by all accounts you find truly worthy of the title femdom according to your definition for a certain percentage of its entirety, but the rest of it is that despicable forced-bi you detest, that in some form removes the impeccable feminine symbol from its pedestal of pure human perfection in form, mind and beauty, where do you draw the line that this game is no longer deemed acceptable for this list? 75 to 25? 50 to 50? 25 to 75?

A findom example:
Is your mistress training you to become a source of money too much? Is it too much when she actively takes so much from you, that you're forced to go into male prostitution? Does she have to actively force you to become the bottom for other males that makes this scenario no longer femdom according to your definition?
If any of these fail to meet your accepted standard; what sort of money income is permissive for this findom to still be accepted by your definition? Or is findom in itself not an allowed form of femdom according to your perspective?

I primarily ask these things since I can live with the list sticking to your explicit definition just fine. But I would like its rules to be applied consistently to all entries that may be allowed to adorn it.

 

[Aseratrix]

I'm going to pin you down on that comment a bit; Weren't you the one, that was adamant on the stance, that the choice of becoming a full-time slave should be between the Sub and Domme and anything is fair game when it is handled, understood and agreed upon by both sides beforehand?
Where's that sudden shift coming from? When your mistress wants you to get banged by another guy you suddenly forget your place? Whatever your mistress says, goes, does it not?

Back to topic:
I feel both your and the more open perspective of dominance are valid. Though, I have to confess I'm also far more leaning towards the idea that a female in power itself is an act of dominance, regardless whether that involves a third, fourth or fifth participant of any gender.

My Gretchenfrage thus:
If a game, which by all accounts you find truly worthy of the title femdom according to your definition for a certain percentage of its entirety, but the rest of it is that despicable forced-bi you detest, that in some form removes the impeccable feminine symbol from its pedestal of pure human perfection in form, mind and beauty, where do you draw the line that this game is no longer deemed acceptable for this list? 75 to 25? 50 to 50? 25 to 75?

A findom example:
Is your mistress training you to become a source of money too much? Is it too much when she actively takes so much from you, that you're forced to go into male prostitution? Does she have to actively force you to become the bottom for other males that makes this scenario no longer femdom according to your definition?
If any of these fail to meet your accepted standard; what sort of money income is permissive for this findom to still be accepted by your definition? Or is findom in itself not an allowed form of femdom according to your perspective?

I primarily ask these things since I can live with the list sticking to your explicit definition just fine. But I would like its rules to be applied consistently to all entries that may be allowed to adorn it.

First, just a disclaimer: it is NOT me who creates these continued debates, but I am constantly dragged into it by others. So if anyone is alienated from the thread due to constant bickering don't blame me. I am just defending myself against constant attacks. I also put the whole schalabang into a spoiler box, no need to bother those who are already bothered with this shit.

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[baxtus]

That wouldn't be too ultrafeministic of them tho, treating one of their sisters like that. Seriously, we get it, you really like lezdom, and I appreciate it too, but no need to rub our faces into your dislike of regular femdom each time. Let us enjoy some femdom without being lezdom, and without it being merely giving head [which is very nice but in and of itself is part of regular vanilla sex, if not done in dominating ways and with specific attitudes].

Plus they can pleasure themselves with their hands, while watching you suffer Its really a matter of expanding one's horizons.

Lezdom is femdom, and I never said you can't enjoy other kinds of Femdom, I'm just pointing out the best kind.

Cunnlingus can easily be done in femdom ways, so it's not just vanilla. Only those with limited imaginations can't figure out how to make it dominating. Expand your imagination, and your horizons will stretch along with it.

 

[baxtus]

Watching the first few minutes of Wheel of Time, looks like the type of world Aseratrix would like to live in.

 

[Innocience]

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First of, thanks for that long post. I was indeed just trolling you with my first paragraph; I couldn't resist.

"If this is disagreeable to you, come back to me, when you managed to convince dedicated maledom fans to accept being pimped out to females and still call it maledom! Why don't people annoy them with these cases???"
I don't get the analogy. There are lots of games out there in the maledom genre that are from the dom perspective and allow some form of forced-bi of their subs. Harem stories usually encourage it within the harem since it furthers the power fantasy.
One important distinction to make: not that many maledom games are from the sub's perspective, which I guess is a big difference in maledom vs. femdom. Which I guess stems from the fact that both are usually male fantasies written from a (hetero) male perspective.

Well, anyhow. I said I'm fine with that list's definition; but I also think it's unfair to single out the gender stuff as a harsher scrutinization factor.
Afterall, melded or maledom games with little femdom are, in essence, pulling the same stuff; just on the "domination" axis if you so will. If you begin treating gender combinations harsher than, let's say, the power aspects, I simply feel cheated.
And whatever your decided method to move forwards the list will need an audit. There's already examples for both on this list.

It could just be my mistake - I thought the list was meant to classify any little femdom content (within reason) that is present in a game.

 

[Aseratrix]

Sorry, I don't buy it, why trade real pleasure that is combined with the psychological for just the psychological.

So sorry, it just doesn't add up, if you can have both, you wouldn't settle for just the one.

It's just not logical.

That would be like saying I just want caramel topping but no ice cream (femdom foot fetish being psychological), when instead you can have the caramel and the ice cream (femdom cunnlingus or femdom ass eating, psychological and physical pleasure).

You'd have to be a fool to choose only the former, and we know that you don't consider women to be fools

I just told you honestly how I exprience it. I don't care if you "buy" it or not. Its my lived experience, I intimately know. Most real submissives are in this "illogical" camp.

I never said cunnilingus can not be used in a very femdom way, I said that by itself in isolation it is also part of vanilla sexuality. Are you Ianuda or lakano with a new username by any chance? Nevermind.

I honestly don't think this thread is your kind of thread. I would seek out some vanilla threads with some mild kink allowed, there you can eat all the ice-cream you want. This thread is for topping lovers alone. I am really not interested in your take, and I don't give a flying fuck if you understand mine at this point.

 

[Aseratrix]

It could just be my mistake - I thought the list was meant to classify any little femdom content (within reason) that is present in a game.

Nope.

"There are some games which erroneously are tagged with femdom, but actually lack any such content, those will not be added to the list." -OP

Now that you have hopefully read my long rant from before, you must be crystal clear what this list aims to include and what it doesn't. This thread was supposed to offer genuine femdom lovers a means to not have to sift through all the garbage stamped on with a femdom sticker, and actually find some they haven't played yet. Brought to them by someone neck deep into femdom since I was about 5 to probably until I die. I do not like femdom, I love femdom: imagine me saying this like that food critique guy from the Ratatuille cartoon. I may fail to explain it to moro...I mean other people who are not into it, but I know femdom when I see it.

And its for my personal use too, keeping a track of games worth playing as a hetero male sub [and for lesbian subs, and last but not least dominant females as well, sadly games with dominant female MC's are as rare as dominant females themselves].

Ps: stop trolling, I am really tired from work each day to constantly deal with this kind of bullshitting.

From now on I will simply put users that didn't got the memos from the OP on ignore. Its immeasurably healthier, both for the thread and oh boy, definitely healthier for me.

 

[Mister_M]

Femdom Police has left the scene without concluding their investigation.

https://f95zone.to/threads/femdom-police-discontinued.100158/

 

[Innocience]

Nope.

"There are some games which erroneously are tagged with femdom, but actually lack any such content, those will not be added to the list." -OP

Now that you have hopefully read my long rant from before, you must be crystal clear what this list aims to include and what it doesn't. This thread was supposed to offer genuine femdom lovers a means to not have to sift through all the garbage stamped on with a femdom sticker, and actually find some they haven't played yet. Brought to them by someone neck deep into femdom since I was about 5 to probably until I die. I do not like femdom, I love femdom: imagine me saying this like that food critique guy from the Ratatuille cartoon. I may fail to explain it to moro...I mean other people who are not into it, but I know femdom when I see it.

And its for my personal use too, keeping a track of games worth playing as a hetero male sub [and for lesbian subs, and last but not least dominant females as well, sadly games with dominant female MC's are as rare as dominant females themselves].

Ps: stop trolling, I am really tired from work each day to constantly deal with this kind of bullshitting.

From now on I will simply put users that didn't got the memos from the OP on ignore. Its immeasurably healthier, both for the thread and oh boy, definitely healthier for me.

Guess I must be trolling without knowing then. I'll just drop the issue. This ain't worth it for either of us.

 

[Sunshaded]

Watching the first few minutes of Wheel of Time, looks like the type of world Aseratrix would like to live in.

As someone's who's read through the series, I can attest that the

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are where you'll find most of the femdom. Specifically lezdom, the kind of you appreciate most. (Well, I'm not sure how the TV series will handle the Seanchan; stuff like femdom in Legend of the Seeker makes me mildly optimistic.) I'm off to watch this now as well.

Femdom Police has left the scene without concluding their investigation.

https://f95zone.to/threads/femdom-police-discontinued.100158/

Makes sense to follow your inspiration, I suppose. *goes to the Patreon to see whether the other projects are femdom* It's... empty.

 

[baxtus]

I just told you honestly how I exprience it. I don't care if you "buy" it or not. Its my lived experience, I intimately know. Most real submissives are in this "illogical" camp.

I never said cunnilingus can not be used in a very femdom way, I said that by itself in isolation it is also part of vanilla sexuality. Are you Ianuda or lakano with a new username by any chance? Nevermind.

I honestly don't think this thread is your kind of thread. I would seek out some vanilla threads with some mild kink allowed, there you can eat all the ice-cream you want. This thread is for topping lovers alone. I am really not interested in your take, and I don't give a flying fuck if you understand mine at this point.

If you aren't able to handle a discussion dude then Don't reply, you aren't a child, I assume, so I'm not going to baby you. If you are unable to discuss your position like an adult, then just keep quiet and don't reply, don't expect others to hold your hand like a kid. Flying or not flying fucks are irrelevant. Grow up man, no body is forcing you to say anything, and the fact that you can't without a hissy fit is not someone else's problem.

 

[Mister_M]

Makes sense to follow your inspiration, I suppose. *goes to the Patreon to see whether the other projects are femdom* It's... empty.

I assume it'll be femdom, but putting 1st post about general plans behind a paywall is a weird decision (to say the least). Anyway, I hope he'll make smth nice in the future.

 

[Anonymous100]

I assume it'll be femdom, but putting 1st post about general plans behind a paywall is a weird decision (to say the least). Anyway, I hope he'll smth nice in the future.

I don't have a good feeling about this. Feels like one of those devs that are just money-grabs and quit their projects early without much explanation but would be great if I am wrong.

 

[Aseratrix]

Femdom Police has left the scene without concluding their investigation.

https://f95zone.to/threads/femdom-police-discontinued.100158/

Well, that was short lived.

 

[Aseratrix]

Guess I must be trolling without knowing then. I'll just drop the issue. This ain't worth it for either of us.

Good! Because I lost all my patience. You may not realize it, but for pages and pages, every god damned day, I came to the thread only to find some new small shit going on about how some disagree with my definition. And it takes a raise out of me. I tried diligently to answer them, to no avail. I tried to alter the course of the discussions towards the actual theme of this thread, but some just can't get enough of voluntarily or involuntarily trolling this thread. Which is really fucked up. I have given the definitions, I explained what this thread/list was created to celebrate and feature, anyone who participates should accept those as the premise of this thread, because no matter the mental gymnastics, its a thread I started and I wouldn't have done so not for the used definition!

 

[Innocience]

Good! Because I lost all my patience. You may not realize it, but for pages and pages, every god dammed day, I came to the thread only to find some new small shit going on about how some disagree with my definition. And it takes a raise out of me. I tried diligently to answer them, to no avail. I tried to alter the course of the discussions towards the actual theme of this thread, but some just can't get enough of voluntarily or involuntarily trolling this thread. Which is really fucked up. I have given the definitions, I explained what this thread/list was created to celebrate and feature, anyone who participates should accept those as the premise of this thread, because no matter the mental gymnastics, its a thread I started and I wouldn't have done so not for the used definition!

Yeah no, I got you. You gotta do what's best for you and your sanity. And I will do for mine.
I'm sorry you thought my post was a troll; I just have to accept my opinion is either not well founded, I lacked some crucial reading competence, couldn't get my point across properly or my opinion just doesn't gel here - and to be frank I'd also rather argue a wall than go into any serious discussion here again. Lesson learnt.