Timodjin

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I am not in to scat but I will miss Min. One of my absolute favourites in all VN. Such a pity there is no Min in the new game.
 

MTheOutsiderN

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I'm not into scat either (quite gross imo, but no shame, you do you). But man do I wish Patreon would fuck off and let developers create the games they want to create. No incest, no lolis, no extreme content. Yet they turn a blind eye to "CP" and creators trying to normalize Pedophilia.

I'd wager the vast majority of people who play games like this are well aware they're just games, and use them as a way to experiment with fantasies without opening themselves up to harm, or potentially harming others.

Games like this harm no one or at least the overwhelming majority of people who find and play them. I'm also not aware of any ongoing or recent studies that have linked the consumption of games like this to any real life reflections of the behaiouver seen by characters in the game. Porn consumption has it's own drawbacks, unsure if the damage is the same or similiar for games compared to irl porn but I digress.

Sorry for the rant, I'm not seething over here but after watching numerous games be axed due to removal. Along with developers and artists I like be forced off the platform simply for trying to make a living, and create what they're passionate for. It's tiring seeing it continue to happen to other developers.

Let developers, and artists alike create what they want. Focus on the creators distrbuting actually harmful material or facilitating it's production.
 

whydoineedto

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Well, while I agree that a 'live and let live' policy is best, you're kind of wasting your energy ranting about it here. Nothing posted here has any influence over Patreon's policies and that particular set of policies are more likely than not enforced by the payment processors, not Patreon itself. I *think* subscribestar is not as picky with those particular topics *yet* afaik.
 

MTheOutsiderN

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Well, while I agree that a 'live and let live' policy is best, you're kind of wasting your energy ranting about it here. Nothing posted here has any influence over Patreon's policies and that particular set of policies are more likely than not enforced by the payment processors, not Patreon itself. I *think* subscribestar is not as picky with those particular topics *yet* afaik.
Oh trust me, I know what I say here won't have any effect on Patreon. I more or less just needed to vent a little. Not like posting it anywhere else would have an impact either, so I figured "fuck it" why not.

I'd agree that it's the payment processors but Patreon has been going downhill for a while now concerning different forms of expression. It also would make no sense for the processors to restrict artists and developers, while allowing the other things I mentioned. Unless they were getting kickbacks. "We don't want to be associated with incest and hardcore stuff, but CP and pedophilia, yeah that's A-Okay". Get what I mean?

I'm glad you agree that the "Live and let live policy is best". For me, unless actual harm is being done, I see no reason for intervention, but I can understand how other people/ businesses may see otherwise.

Subscribestar is a great alternative for artists and developers as long as it lasts. I think developers as well could just not bother with censored scripts. Release the game with no context/ script and use sites like this or their social media to release the script separately. Most people are just going to patch this anyways. I certainly did.
 
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donSilver

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Nov 30, 2018
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How much content is there with the sister? Is she only a secondary love interest, or can you become quite close? Asking for a friend...
 

donSilver

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My friends are telling me you can get very close indeed...
That I got, but is it only a few casual hookups and scenes, or can the player choose the sister to date or something like that. I don't know if the game even has that.
 

Cartageno

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That I got, but is it only a few casual hookups and scenes, or can the player choose the sister to date or something like that. I don't know if the game even has that.
There's not a lot of "dating" as such in the main game, which is more sex than romance - but your sister is one of the few characters where a kind of relationship develops. However, it will probably only be in the ending.

Apart from that - if I get your question right - the scenes with sister (not that many, big cast, everybody shuffling for screen time) are not of the "fuck and forget" type but feel meaningful for both of you.
 

donSilver

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There's not a lot of "dating" as such in the main game, which is more sex than romance - but your sister is one of the few characters where a kind of relationship develops. However, it will probably only be in the ending.

Apart from that - if I get your question right - the scenes with sister (not that many, big cast, everybody shuffling for screen time) are not of the "fuck and forget" type but feel meaningful for both of you.
Ok, thanks. That was what I was trying to ask, but failed. I'm just trying to find some games which have good b/s romance, but also some rather lewd scenes and not the plain boring vanilla stuff I keep finding, it's always either one or the other, but never both--super lewd scenes, but kinda romance/dating thing... Ah first world problems.
 
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Cartageno

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Ok, thanks. That was what I was trying to ask, but failed. I'm just trying to find some games which have good b/s romance, but also some rather lewd scenes and not the plain boring vanilla stuff I keep finding, it's always either one or the other, but never both--super lewd scenes, but kinda romance/dating thing... Ah first world problems.
In that case ... it is complicated. There is not too much build up of the "romantic love" relationship but there is some horny buildup with peeking at each other in past flashbacks. In the end I think this game fares well better than average on this end, even though not top tier, however if that is your main interest, there is a lot of game to go through for comparatively little content. Content of this kind that is, a ton of content otherwise.
 

Bob69

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Is this game close to being done since Dev has Vinovella?
Well, we're at day 20 of 21. Still quite a few endings to implement and to wrap everything up, so probably not next update, but yeah, close-ish.

However, many of the larger devs here are in fact teams, and will be working on different games at the same time.
What Cartageno said, but to add to it, ViNovella are two teams. One working on this one and one on University, that means even after they finished the story, there will be more stuff added. At least that's what they wrote in the announcement (IIRC).
 

cxx

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Nov 14, 2017
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plenty of endings not revealed yet, those which are available are mostly incomplete besides min's ending and many things to wrap up so yea will take few updates.
 
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