Meridian

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Most complaints arent about whether rape in video games is wrong or right. Me and boatload of other people here loved Quinns character in prologue and looked forward to her content. But in this update she is shown as unlikeable cunt and combined with main character acting like a pussy instead of trying to turn the tables it made her content unenjoyable to many people who looked forward to it.
 

Sir_EatsALot

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I don't understand what the fuss here is all about. MC was drugged and that was obviously rape. I for one didn't mind it and enjoyed the scene. That doesn't mean I would defend this against people who weren't cool with it for obvious reasons! Rape is rape, doesn't matter if it's a porn game or not. It's a sensitive subject and a lot of people won't be cool with it.

If you enjoyed it like I did, cool bro good for you but don't go around saying it's ok and everyone should be cool with it just because it's a porn game. People have their own opinions and all it takes is adding a couple of lines of codes to make it a choice for players in the game. So please drop this matter and let everyone enjoy the game! Happy fapping!
 

Guyin Cognito

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I guess what I find most striking about all of this is how surprised some people were, saying that Quinn's personality has suddenly warped into this horrible person they don't like anymore, when they were cool with her before. Seriously, her past actions include, having gone to prison for (I think it was) ten years, acting aggressive and pushy, having her friend scare the hell of the whole family by brandishing a gun and forcing them into incestuous situations, and handcuffing the MC while giving him a blowjob. Come to think of it, didn't she also put him in headlock with her legs while they were working out in the gym? It is the nature of plot-threads in AVN's to escalate. HOW are you THIS surprised by what that escalated to here? The MC has said several times that he is afraid of her, and has taken note of the fact that she is much bigger and stronger than him and could easily kill him if she wanted to. Calling him a doormat for not fighting back seems unfair to me.
 

Mistress_Kixen

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Hmm played the update and to be honest it was exactly what I did expect from Quinn. Do I have an issue with the way she acts? thanks to the info about her character and what she did mixed but leaning towards no.
 
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LxFactor

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Keep it going, Dev. People who doesn't like just need to start seeing the tags before playing and complaining. All the fake morality thing and playing porn games with incest, domination, etc. Better stop watching movies of serial killers, horror movies, people getting killed! Who likes Saw, Hostel, The purge, etc. ? Does it make you a sadistic and/or a killer? This is FICTION and if some people enjoy it in fiction that doesn't make you better than anyone and definitely you are not entitled to judge anyone here! Simple as that...
 

Guyin Cognito

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For those asking about exactly what changes were made, I have done the comparison.

SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT YET

In the new version, she only gives the MC Viagra, no other kind of drugs. He no longer makes any reference to being raped, and instead says the Viagra was unnecessary. The images are the same.
 

rahkshi01

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For those asking about exactly what changes were made, I have done the comparison.

SPOILERS AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED IT YET

In the new version, she only gives the MC Viagra, no other kind of drugs. He no longer makes any reference to being raped, and instead says the Viagra was unnecessary. The images are the same.
So no other changes in all for other characters? I thought someone mentioned there would be additional scenes re-worked or updated/improved?
 

Grimtown

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So no other changes in all for other characters? I thought someone mentioned there would be additional scenes re-worked or updated/improved?
You can find the dev's roadmap here:

So, I decided to balance this decision including these feedbacks.

I’m not completely restarting the game.

My plans currently are to restart the coding, you’d lose your saves, the big lag at the game’s launch should disappear, and the game-play should be different.

I will try to keep the scenes you already got for girls, and just adapt them to the new setup/background, completed by new content for them. However, it would be a very annoying task to update the whole content to the new setup at once, so to make it more pleasant for me (and not take many months) I was thinking of updating content one by one.
For example: Past content is locked (not working anymore, yet), and then, imagine I do a Julia Update, I’ll get back her past images and content and update them at that moment, so her update would contain all the (updated) past events, merged with her new content.

Here is my current vision of approximate upcoming updates:

  • 0.1.8 Quinn’s update very, veeeeery soon (I’m at the last step)
  • 0.1.9 Complete code rework (A lot of it concerns the dev side, and also game-play system), along with a new introduction:
    New setup concerning the backgrounds/initial situation, some relationships would also change a bit.
    You’ll lose your save and the girl's content will be locked temporarily.
  • 0.2 Julia’s update (I want to try what I planned concerning using past scenes), along with other stuff.
  • 0.2.1 Mia’s update
It’s not an explicit content planning, just an overall idea. The main story system will be different and the update would not necessarily be “1 girl content only” anymore.
That was before the 0.1.8a hotfix/rewrite.
 

Guyin Cognito

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Is "incest" still "incest" if its not with a family member?
>>> um ... no? that's pretty much the entire definition of incest. Unless you mean legally, in which case it varies wildly from one place to another and depnds further on your definition of "family member", even state-to-state here in the US. There are still two states where it's legal (according to wikipedia, do not apply to your life without double checking)

is "domination" still "domination" if no one is dominated?
>>> ... I want to say no, but the question seems so obvious that it makes me suspicious ... I mean, technically a lot of BDSM is role-play, because if the sub volunteered and has a safe-word than it's not ACTUAL domination, but ...

is a "serial killer" still a "serial killer" if he dosent kill anyone?
>>> ...well, no, of course n-- where are you going with this?!

is "rape" still "rape" if the person wanted it, expected it and was ok with it?
>>> Ahhh, I see. Well, again, if was it expected and the person agreed to it in advance, that would make it role-play...
... I'm still not sure what the point of these questions was ...
 

rahkshi01

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You can find the dev's roadmap here:



That was before the 0.1.8a hotfix/rewrite.
Hmm the only thing that concerns me is lose your save at 0.19 rework. It is kinda off-putting to lose all the progress made. Even if it is for a good reason as updating the code.
 

AlexTorch

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Most complaints arent about whether rape in video games is wrong or right. Me and boatload of other people here loved Quinns character in prologue and looked forward to her content. But in this update she is shown as unlikeable cunt and combined with main character acting like a pussy instead of trying to turn the tables it made her content unenjoyable to many people who looked forward to it.
What botter me the most of all is the mc being a pussy...don't get me wrong, there is a lot of people who love that, but damn, is easy as fuck to give us a choice if the mc will be a pussy or not. Quinn was the only girl from the beginning that i said "damn, i want her" and now she is a bad written character.
 

rahkshi01

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What botter me the most of all is the mc being a pussy...don't get me wrong, there is a lot of people who love that, but damn, is easy as fuck to give us a choice if the mc will be a pussy or not. Quinn was the only girl from the beginning that i said "damn, i want her" and now she is a bad written character.
That was one thing I also didn't like I mean why does he have to let everyone walk over him like that? Have a spine man!!!
 
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AlexTorch

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That was one thing I also didn't like I mean why does he have to let everyone walk over him like that? Have a spine man!!!
There is a lot of people that love that, but is easy as hell to do a choice, the only extra work is write the "extra" path, is unity, is really easy to do that, he can even use the same scenes, just write something else, and voilà, everyone is happy.
 
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Guyin Cognito

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I've played a lot of these games in the last few years, and I'm surprised people are so harsh on the MC in this one, especially in comparison to other games. I mean, I suppose you could argue that the game was written intentionally to put him in these positions, but just looking at the story I see him getting along quite well with the youngest daughter and hitting things off pretty well.

With the middle sister, she is emphatically against him. I'm pretty sure she even slaps him at one point, which he deserved, for spanking or kissing her on the ass without warning, which isn't exactly "spineless." So, what should he do about it? Hit her back and get into a fistfight? Instead, he kills her with kindness, which drives her absolutely crazy, and ultimately wins her over. She has him act as a slave for a day (in exchange for some favor I think, I forget why, but there was a reason), and the end result is he gets to have a sexual encounter with her. He doesn't complain. He then shoves his face in her vagina while she's just trying to do sit-ups. Again, not the act of a spineless man. Would it have been better if he went all-in and forced his way into a relationship with her from the beginning when she clearly said she didn't like him? That's not "having a spine," that's being a predator. There are plenty of those MC's in other games. I'm happy to play a character that's not completely an irredeemable asshole this time around. As it is, he's pushing what's reasonable.

What about Quinn? He already wantonly stares at her tits and gets away with it, and she just laughs it off and enjoys it. She flirts with him, but he can't tell if she's serious or just messing with him. He's afraid of her, and isn't sure what she would do if he flirts back. She could easily over power him physically, and he's not sure what she's capable of morally. So what is he supposed to do to "turn the tables?" I suppose he could blackmail her or drug her and--oh wait, that's exactly what everyone is complaining about her doing! And again I say, if you've been paying attention to her character this whole time, wrestling him into submission, coercing him with gunplay and handcuffs, how are you so surprised by this?

He tells his mother he wants more from her, and respects it when she says she's not ready for that.
That is what's supposed to happen with normal rational people.

I kind of feel like a lot of people are describing "respecting other peoples' wishes and personal space" and "having rational fears of dangerous people" as being "spineless." Should he have been buying lingerie and flowers and professing his lust for his own family on a daily basis? He's already boning his entire family inside of a month of moving in with them. I think he's getting by just fine as it is.
 

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I kind of feel like a lot of people are describing "respecting other peoples' wishes and personal space" and "having rational fears of dangerous people" as being "spineless."
No, I think spineless is being handcuffed and blown after discovering that your sister put your other family members through a traumatic experience, and your inner thought is "Quinn is dangerous, but fuck it, let her be if she gives such excuses!!"

Even if you want to pass that off as he's near orgasm so thinking with his dick, I'd immediately be back to being hugely pissed off as soon as that orgasm wore off.

"So now that you accepted our apologies, we're counting on you to keep the secret" is just a shitty thing to say and MC's non-response was as spineless as could be.

MC is basically pussy whipped in every direction at once. He's not actively doing things to get into anyone's pants he's just bumbling through life and the Dev throws the pussy on him.
 
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