TheUnsaid

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You support a creator like Zell because you've enjoyed his previous works and want to incentivise him to carry on making those kinds of games, I see Zell as the best pixel art animator for H-games there is.
While I agree with the rest of your message, I disagree with this.
I don't think Zell's the best pixel artist for erogames. I think that's Takorin.



Now, I will say that Zell's got my favorite erotic sense amongst pixel artists though. His sense for female assertive content is on point, and the way he can bring out the eroticism of scenarios is amazing.

I can still vividly remember in my mind's eye the erotic questionnaire in FOBS B side.

Takorin on the other hand does bestiality, heavy maledom rape, and futa. Following him is a mixed bag because you'll randomly get a gangbang rape scene in your timeline.
There are some maledom scenes in Fobs. Some of them occur while the player is 'brainwashed' by the girl but I personally just ignore this fact lol (example - the yamabiko girl)
FobsB has the Cat Witch for example. FobsA has the sleeping goat, mushroom girl, puppeteer girls, cat thief for example

I know of 2 horror games that zell made, but they're both similar enough that I cannot point out any differences

If you think about it - yes fobs and the horror games are kind of simillar. However in fobs you have a different mindset compared to zell's horror games
Here are the example differences:
- In FOBS you can actually fight back. Whereas in the horror games you only run or trick the attackers
- (I don't know the lore but this point seems logical enough) In FOBS you're an adventurer who explores because you want to. In the horror games you are just some wealking, trapped somewhere and who is trying to escape
- In FOBS you have enough exploration to do that you can just ignore the femdom scenes. But in the horror games there is not enough content to ignore the scenes, there is literally nothing interesting in the game to keep you entertained if you dislike femdom (actually the player's new abilities are interesting, but people ususally get bored of them after 5 minutes)

Personally I played through his horror games only to see if it has any maledom scenes, but that was not the case. Maybe I remember like one where the character is brainwashed and doesn't end up on the bottom? But I may be wrong
Don't let anyone convince you it's not.

Too many people are weird about temptation maledom.

Like you have no idea how much I've argued that submissive girls are allowed to enjoy and be a part of sex without becoming doms. If you want your partner to rail you while you sit back and take it, no matter how it happens you're the sub. People just have different rules when it comes to girls I guess.

Regarding the horror games. Yes they're meant to be more femdom focused, but more importantly they're a place where Zell can let loose on the designs for his creepy girls

Zell didn't change sexually.
And in fact Shiro No Yakata is being codeveloped by Ansala! Ansala's influence is what made Succubus Affection primarily a maledom game.

There's literally no shot that Shiro No Yakata won't also be primarily a maledom game. At most it'll be switch.

Tower of Shiratane on the other hand, who knows. We lack info.

Now don't forget, Zell's a switch with a femdom preference. Just because the game will focus on one thing doesn't mean he'll hyperfixate. Tower of Shiratane has those Mushroom girls that temptation the player into mating presses and the cage demon that tempts the player into doggystyle.

Like, I don't think you have anything to worry about based on your preferences for the future games.
 
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While I agree with the rest of your message, I disagree with this.
I don't think Zell's the best pixel artist for erogames. I think that's Takorin.



Now, I will say that Zell's got my favorite erotic sense amongst pixel artists though. His sense for female assertive content is on point, and the way he can bring out the eroticism of scenarios is amazing.

I can still vividly remember in my mind's eye the erotic questionnaire in FOBS B side.

Takorin on the other hand does bestiality, heavy maledom rape, and futa. Following him is a mixed bag because you'll randomly get a gangbang rape scene in your timeline.
Thanks sounds interesting, I'll check out his work. It's always nice to find a good artist you're not familiar with.
 

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Too many people are weird about temptation maledom.

Like you have no idea how much I've argued that submissive girls are allowed to enjoy and be a part of sex without becoming doms. If you want your partner to rail you while you sit back and take it, no matter how it happens you're the sub. People just have different rules when it comes to girls I guess.
You understood me incorrectly. When I played FOBS I assumed that the Goat Girl used magic to seduce the MC and that she was fully in control during the intercourse because of it.

I agree with you that seducing a man just by being beautiful doesn't make a woman dominant. However I'd argue that when a woman uses magic on the man then the man is basically 'forced' to have sex. If the woman is in control during this intercourse (for example isn't overwhelmed by her own magic) then for me it becomes much more tricky. I cannot decide myself if using seduction magic when the male is on top during sex is dom or sub thus I treat it more neutrally.

Zell didn't change sexually.
And in fact Shiro No Yakata is being codeveloped by Ansala! Ansala's influence is what made Succubus Affection primarily a maledom game.
I always thought that zell only commited like a few animations for Succubus Affection and that there were other devs who actually created most of the game. I may be wrong tho but I swear I read about that somewhere
But I never knew Ansala helped him with his horror games that's interesting

There's literally no shot that Shiro No Yakata won't also be primarily a maledom game. At most it'll be switch.

Tower of Shiratane on the other hand, who knows. We lack info.
I played both beta versions of both of these 'horror' games and checked every animation looking for maledom. I can safely say that both games are more femdom-focused than FOBS lol

Cheers
 
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You understood me incorrectly. When I played FOBS I assumed that the Goat Girl used magic to seduce the MC and that she was fully in control during the intercourse because of it.

I agree with you that seducing a man just by being beautiful doesn't make a woman dominant. However I'd argue that when a woman uses magic on the man then the man is basically 'forced' to have sex. If the woman is in control during this intercourse (for example isn't overwhelmed by her own magic) then for me it becomes much more tricky. I cannot decide myself if using seduction magic when the male is on top during sex is dom or sub thus I treat it more neutrally.
"I agree with you that seducing a man just by being beautiful doesn't make a woman dominant."
This part is mainly what I was talking about.

"When I played FOBS I assumed that the Goat Girl used magic to seduce the MC and that she was fully in control during the intercourse because of it."
Isn't magic kind of rare in FOBS? Most girls use their physical abilities.

I don't think it's magic, but just a representation of seduction.
Just like all the aphrodisiac gas, is a representation of pheromones causing lustful buildup.

If it was me, and I got heart charmed by yamabiko, my first reaction would not be to run up to the first girl I see and pound her. I'd just fap it out, cause I don't wanna engage in sex that way. He's just making it happen that way as a way to gamify temptation. Just like how her loud noise is an SFX onomatopoeia to show noise, and why it bounces back on walls.

I always thought that zell only commited like a few animations for Succubus Affection and that there were other devs who actually created most of the game. I may be wrong tho but I swear I read about that somewhere
But I never knew Ansala helped him with his horror games that's interesting
Ansala was the project lead for Succubus Affection.

The hyper-action combat was his preference.
The sexual focus is his preference.
The story and setting are his preference.
He also brought on the CG artist.

Ansala is currently helping him with Shiro No Yakata only. He paused Succubus Affection 2 to work on SnY because Zell asked him to.

I played both beta versions of both of these 'horror' games and checked every animation looking for maledom. I can safely say that both games are more femdom-focused than FOBS lol

Cheers
The Ansala codeveloped SnY has no demos.

You can see gif previews on the ci-en though.
The versions of SnY you probably played are when Zell was trying to make it on his own before he gave up.
 

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i not like futa i not gay female with dick how peoples like this there many games like this and or maledom games and female character getting rape by males why there no more games like castle of temptation drain mansion and Cecyle of corruption i searched and there not any new games like them
Please for the love of god and my own sanity, use a damn period.
 

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You really should try indestanding this guy.
I know of so many games, literally spent days searching throgh to find any good games where the male actually has a spine.
Why do I even care about FOBS - Because there's such an deficiency of games that would fit the average man.
Literally the only requirements are: has animations (not just images), has maledom/femsub scenes, doesn't have weird fetishes (scrat, obesity, etc.), is not a virtual novel, and for the sex scenes to not be forced (it can be rape if the other side is clearly enjoying it like in FOBS)
People have no clue how difficult it is to find games with such simple requirements. All I ask for is for a game for a normal typical person that took more than 1 week to make, however when you look at the main page of itch.io for example, all games are either straight VNs or some weird fetish
Sometimes it takes 1-2 hours or more to find just one game that fits these most basic, mainstream and normal criteria. If that guy went through the pain of searching for those I fully understand his comment

For anyone that stumbles upon this comment, here are some actually fappable games for normal people:
*The following media contains: opinions! Viewer discretion is advised
*I don't have link perms yet, google games yourself
*I will only say the author for the games that are more difficult to find with google - also if you cannot find it in f95zone try searching in itch io too. Sometimes kemono can be useful if it's a paid game and f95zone has outdated versions
*If I say "only play if you're desperate" I mean REALLY desperate for ANY maledom conent. why not just watch porn at this point lol
*The games are rated based only on how much I liked them (I like maledom/femsub, prefer wholesome scenes but they're not required, don't have any weird fetishes, can accept futa if it's hot. I also really dislike zombies and other gore creatures and thus dislike games like "Alien Quest: Eve")
*EACH AND EVERY SINGLE OF THESE GAMES HAS ANIMATED SEX SCENES, I HATE IMAGE-ONLY GAMES AAAAAAAAAA
*THIS LIST DOES NOT CONTAIN VIRTUAL NOVEL GAMES
*by "maledom" I mean any sex scene where the male ends up on TOP not one the bottom


# Amazing

- Succubus Affection
absolutely fucking amazing
Really good animations
very simple - if you die, you get femdom - but if you defeat a girl, you get maledom
tons of content
platformer
fun combat system

- Dekamara
very simple - if you die, you get femdom - but if you defeat a girl, you get maledom
Good animations
can be difficult and sometimes mundane (there are too many levels for the amount of content)
enough content
platformer

- Minecraft Fapcraft MOD
mostly maledom, optional rare femdom
some content
this is a minecraft mod lol but the animations are actually good
as of right now (june 2024) the owner rn is @trolmastercard on twitter but if they get legal issues from mojang, the owner may change. If mod is taken down, just use the wayback machine

- Noelle Will Give Her All
many weird fetish scenes, but also many GOOD normal maledom scenes
TONS of content. there are SO SO many scenes
RPGM game
story-driven
basically sex simulator with extra steps


# Good Enough

- Princess & Conquest
I haven't played this one yet but it looks like a solid game this may be Amazing tier
lots of animations
mostly maledom
RPGM

- Learn the Heart
mostly maledom
good animations
can be boring
enough content for 1-3 hours (depending if you like the story)
make sure to DOWNLOAD the game, DO NOT PLAY IN BROWSER IT DOES NOT SAVE YOUR PROGRESS)
simple side-scroller + point and click (romance simulator)

- Princess Reconquista
mostly maledom
quality scenes
platformer
f95zone has trouble searching for it but YES this game IS on f95zone

- Lust's Cupid
medium quality sex simulator lol
I think it has optional storyline but I may be wrong, I never saw it

- Cute Reapers In My Room
almost fully maledom
basically sex simulator
not much content

- Nightcall Sex Dojo
almost fully maledom
basically sex simulator
not much content
a bit crappy

- The Tower
60% maledom
battle sex scenes are meh quality but the full-screen sex scenes (storyline) are better
has many endings, and unlocks more content the more times you beat it (WATCH GUIDES)
made by octopussy
for me it's too boring I just used cheat engine to beat it lol
a bit mundane and boring
enough content for a 1-2 hours
simple point and click game (with some keyboard usage when attacking to do 'combos')
a bit crappy
Flash game!

- Art Thou A Demon King
mostly maledom
point and click
this CAN be considered a VN but this game is pretty bizzare, just see for yourself
okay animations but not many of them
almost enough conent
by msconstruction

- The Manager Serves All
fully/almost fully maledom
not enough content
can be a tiny little bit boring
point and click game
good enough animations
can be considered a clicker/idle game


# Meh But Fappable

- Monster Love Hotel
extremely crappy animations!
has all the types of sex male/female, female/male, male/male, female/female, futa/female, futa/male, and the list goes on
DISCLAIMER - it may be difficult to download the newest version, especially since this a paid game, do your own research lol, this game MAY not be on f95zone
sex fighting game (at the beginning you'll fight monsters and sex fights will be rare but after like 20 mins of play almost everyone you'll fight will be girls, or men ew
HUGE AMOUNTS OF WALKING
IS BORING (outside sex scenes)
This game CAN break when using Cheat Engine's speedhack especially during fights (it can teleport you to random places on the map or break the game in weird ways). But it's pretty rare for that to happen
YOU MUST SAVE YOUR GAME IN THE HOTEL BUILDING SO MANY TIMES I LOST MY PROGRESS BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SAVED AND CHEAT ENGINE TELEPORTED TO A RANDOM PLACE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

- Eris Dysnomia
*Eris Dysnomia is kind of a remake of Ayura Crisis
MANY MANY MANY MANY weird fetishes!!!!!
a good amount of contnet
mostly maledom
fun combat system
platformer

- Ayura Crisis
*Eris Dysnomia is kind of a remake of Ayura Crisis
MANY MANY MANY MANY weird fetishes!!!!!
a good amount of contnet
mostly maledom
fun combat system
platformer

- Monster Love Hotel 2
almost exactly the same as above
a bit better animations
but less content

- Rhya's Crusade
some maledom
a bit weird but unique game
may be difficult
almost enough content
platformer

- Crisis Point: Extinction
some maledom
some futadom
enough content
platformer

- A Silent Statue
50% maledom
weird statue fetish
enough content
interesting story i guess
RPGM

- Succumate
mostly maledom
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- Himatsubushi
fully maledom
exhibitionist fetish (you can just ignore it tho)
bizzare, weird and kind of difficult gameplay!
not enough content

- My Dystopian Robot Girlfriend
almost full maledom
not much content
repetitive and boring!
story-driven
has bad endings! you can actually die or go to jail!

- Potion Shop Schwesterherz
enogh maledom
enough content
a little bit weird or crappy gameplay
side-scrolling but not platformer, also with point-and-click elements

- Hole House
mostly maledom
complicated sex simulator
point-and-click
enough contnet
crappy and grindy gameplay (unclear objective and unclear UI)
I personally don't like it but I am sure there are people who do

- Summer Memories (there are many versions and DLCs, I don't really know which one is best or which one to play)
mostly maledom
more than enough content (when you combine all versions of the game and DLCs)
good enough animations
you play as a tiny wimp man who is - you guessed it - on vacation
pretty grindy and a bit repetitive, can be boring
there are tons of things to do, but you don't have enough time to experiment with them all. There may be some wiki page somewhere to explain all the mechanics and events but I am not sure
you HAVE a time limit!!! (I hate time limits). I think you're supposed to actually play through the game multiple times and it would be barely possible to 100% it in one go, but I may be wrong
I put this at the bottom of the meh tier simply cause I dislike milfs and because of the humongous size difference between the MC and the women, but MANY people really like this game

- Nayla's Castle
ONLY FUTADOM ZERO MALES IN THE GAME. THIS IS VERY SAD INDEED
mostly futa/female
some futa/futa ew
a GOOD amount of content
platformer
by Quidev

# Desperate Tier (bad)
*at this point the games have almost no maledom and it takes maybe hours to get a good scene!

- Forest Of The Blue Skin (FOBS_A, FOBS_B, and FOBS_C)
QUALITY ANIMATIONS and cute art style, however this game is mostly femdom-focused
Even though this is bad tier - if someone has like 6 hours of high effort to 100% all three games, then you can find some maledom gems (not many tho). My personal favourite is the cat witch in FOBS_B
about 10 maledom scenes
more than 60 femdom scenes

*approximate numbers, i have no clue what the real numbers are
TONS of FEMDOM content (90% of all femdom is just cowgirl rape)
a bit unclear objective (READ THE GODDAMN WIKI)
grindy if you want a 100% completion
completing all three games may take like 6 hours depending on if you know what to do
FOBS_C is unfinished and has like 5 scenes

- My Forest Home
MOSTLY FUTADOM OR LESBIAN ew
only a TINY little bit of maledom
can be grindy, i personally just used cheat engine
just see the gallery and check if it's worth it (you may need to edit game files to get acces to the gallery)
this game MAY be difficult to download
only play if you're desperate

- Wings of Roldea
mostly maledom
some weird fetishes
almost 100% of all sex scenes is unwilling rape/gangbang (where the MC ends up clearly hurt after them)
some people may like it, but I personally just hated it due to all sex scenes being CLEARLY forced

- Alternate DiMansion Diary
some maledom and futadom
considerable amounts of gangbang
also has considerable amounts of solo machine sex for example she's sitting on a chair and the chair traps her and starts penetrating her with dildos. that's not really my thing lol
puzzle game!!! (check steam guides if you're lost, but it is possible to complete it without guides if you have a few spare hours)
there are 2 futadom scenes, and like 3-4 maledom ones?

- Lorain
ZERO MALEDOM
ONLY FUTADOM
also has many 'solo' scenes like tentacles and other weird things
a bit crappy gameplay
crappy animations
can be grindy due to large shop prices (pro tip: the more difficult the map you're playing on, the more gems it has. later maps have tons of hidden/hard to access but expensive gems)
can take like 4 hours to 100% the game

- Mystic Knight Maya
many weird fetishes (including vore, tentacles, tongues, slimes, zoophilia (with actual animals/fantasy animals like big bees), etc.)
only a handful of straight normal maledom animations
only play if you're really desperate
IS DIFFICULT AND CAN BE MUNDANE!
has progression (you unlock skills and shit)





# that one game which was almost like a tower defence, you were a girl that went into some random areas with the goal of introducing love into them, and it was like a tower defence where you stood in one place and shot hordes of men/other things with "love guns" i have no clue how it's named and probably never add it though there is enough maledom content the art style is incredibly similar to lorain or The Tower but I swear it's not from the same guy or is it?
# TODO: maybe also add a separate smaller VN list with just the fav ones and clarify the message, I don't hate VNs but they are just so boring
I still can't belive fobs fans had never talk about 楽園魔城リピュアリア in this thread. I just remember this game I played around 2016 after I played fobs and search all internet to find similar games.
This game just too good for a adult game at 2013.
If you like fobs, you will like 楽園魔城リピュアリア too.
Male protagonist
super good art and still not outdated these day
a lot of animations, even reverse gangbang
a little too diffcult, and a lot of Hidden features (takes a lot of time to figure out)
 
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I still can't belive fobs fans had never talk about 楽園魔城リピュアリア in this thread. I just remember this game I played around 2016 after I played fobs and search all internet to find similar games.
This game just too good for a adult game at 2013.
If you like fobs, you will like 楽園魔城リピュアリア too.
Male protagonist
super good art and still not outdated these day
a lot of animations, even reverse gangbang
a little too diffcult, and a lot of Hidden features (takes a lot of time to figure out)
If we had to know/mention every good pixel game we would be cocked.

Anyway if anyone in interested on it.

Magic Castle RePureAria [v1.23] [House of Black Dream Fantasies]

And I guess this must be the sequel.

Magic Castle RePureAria 2 [v1.25] [House of Black Dream Fantasies]
 
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I still can't belive fobs fans had never talk about 楽園魔城リピュアリア in this thread. I just remember this game I played around 2016 after I played fobs and search all internet to find similar games.
This game just too good for a adult game at 2013.
If you like fobs, you will like 楽園魔城リピュアリア too.
Male protagonist
super good art and still not outdated these day
a lot of animations, even reverse gangbang
a little too diffcult, and a lot of Hidden features (takes a lot of time to figure out)
The overlap isn't really all that close so it makes sense that people didn't talk about it.

Firstly, the erotic focus in Repurearia is sissyfication and loss of masculinity.
Like... I might like femdom, but I don't really view myself as a sub.

I see myself as a normal person, and I just want girls who are more assertive than me. It's a weird distinction but it's very important to me.

So Repurearia taking the male character and pushing him in the opposite direction actually hurts my enjoyment.

Secondly, the erotic scenarios are different. It's not like Repurearia creates erotic scenarios through gameplay like FOBS does. Repurearia is a bullet hell, that has barely involved adult elements. FOBS, has involved capture mechanics that force you to engage with the adult elements if you want to get the powers of the girls. Also FOBS has various gimmiks that bring out eroticism through level design.

Thirdly, and this is important. I didn't find Repurearia's gameplay to be that engaging. When I lost fights in that game, I thought, well bullet hell nonsense, might as well buy items to fix this. When I lost fights in FOBS (if I did) it's cause I wanted to see the scene the enemy had, or because I just got wrecked underestimating the enemy.
 
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Yeah, Repure Aria is an entirely different conversation. It's a beautiful series but good fucking lord is it easy to get lost if you don't read Japanese (although translation mods exist these days which is nice). Plus the dev has a habit of making hit or miss scenes (loli character scenes also outweigh adult character scenes) and they're not exactly animated that fluidly.

Meanwhile FoBS is a game most can play and cherish, favouring straight-forward maps with a sprinkle of secrets here and there, but generally going harder on enemies + ways you can interact with those enemies. It's a lot more enjoyable to get into either as a game or a nsfw game, plus no need to understand a word of Japanese either.
 

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I still can't belive fobs fans had never talk about 楽園魔城リピュアリア in this thread. I just remember this game I played around 2016 after I played fobs and search all internet to find similar games.
This game just too good for a adult game at 2013.
If you like fobs, you will like 楽園魔城リピュアリア too.
Male protagonist
super good art and still not outdated these day
a lot of animations, even reverse gangbang
a little too diffcult, and a lot of Hidden features (takes a lot of time to figure out)
of only it was not futa i would have play it
 
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While I agree with the rest of your message, I disagree with this.
I don't think Zell's the best pixel artist for erogames. I think that's Takorin.



Now, I will say that Zell's got my favorite erotic sense amongst pixel artists though. His sense for female assertive content is on point, and the way he can bring out the eroticism of scenarios is amazing.

I can still vividly remember in my mind's eye the erotic questionnaire in FOBS B side.

Takorin on the other hand does bestiality, heavy maledom rape, and futa. Following him is a mixed bag because you'll randomly get a gangbang rape scene in your timeline.

Don't let anyone convince you it's not.

Too many people are weird about temptation maledom.

Like you have no idea how much I've argued that submissive girls are allowed to enjoy and be a part of sex without becoming doms. If you want your partner to rail you while you sit back and take it, no matter how it happens you're the sub. People just have different rules when it comes to girls I guess.

Regarding the horror games. Yes they're meant to be more femdom focused, but more importantly they're a place where Zell can let loose on the designs for his creepy girls

Zell didn't change sexually.
And in fact Shiro No Yakata is being codeveloped by Ansala! Ansala's influence is what made Succubus Affection primarily a maledom game.

There's literally no shot that Shiro No Yakata won't also be primarily a maledom game. At most it'll be switch.

Tower of Shiratane on the other hand, who knows. We lack info.

Now don't forget, Zell's a switch with a femdom preference. Just because the game will focus on one thing doesn't mean he'll hyperfixate. Tower of Shiratane has those Mushroom girls that temptation the player into mating presses and the cage demon that tempts the player into doggystyle.

Like, I don't think you have anything to worry about based on your preferences for the future games.
Succubus Affection is considered a maledom game?
 
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of only it was not futa i would have play it
Of course not, the souls of the male character and his princess girlfriend are trapped in the same body. Therefore, their ability is to switch the bodies of a male and his girlfriend.
 

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Succubus Affection is considered a maledom game?
All of the sexual content you have to do to progress is maledom, outside of maybe the first scene.

After that scene, as long as you play decent you never have to see the girls lead again.

Capture on defeat is all male assertive, and the game's escape mechanic is very lenient. The game's not designed for the girls to lead, but for the MC to dominate girls with his dick till they join him.
 
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