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I'd imagine depression often plays the main role in people ending up creating a porn game as a means of income.
You don't have to leave your room to work, don't need to deal with any people while you're able to set up your own working days and hours without having any cocky fucks with superiority complex watching your every step while you work for them like a slave to then pay you with a great pity a fraction of what you make them.
Also, I know it's hard to believe but having money doesn't help in "feeling better" if it comes to depression and you may end up killing yourself anyway, poor or rich, doesn't matter you're still empty inside.
Ironically money can also become yet another crushing you reason, how?
You'd think that once you'd finally manage to get your hands on the money you'll definitely feel much better than you do now, that it'll fix your problems, but the reality may prove to be different because when you finally make it and then notice that nothing has changed for the better you're likely to lose a big slice of your hope, a hope to get better, a hope that may be the last thing that keeps you away from doing something stupid.
There're many cases in which people who have had literally everything they could possibly ever want, if it comes to materiality, decided to kill themselves despite because they had lacked something which even money couldn't have provided them with.
I don't blame you for not understanding, nor other people who clearly didn't experience real depression because without experiencing it you could never fully understand anyway.
Just don't be so conceited and pray that it won't come your way one day because when it does and you'll underestimate it, you may end up feeling a serious whoopsie after it'll throw you down off your high horse, the more so the higher your high horse will be.

I know very well what is like to be depressed and afraid.
For more than 3 months recently,I was at my lowest point in life after a one-night stand whit a France girl from tinder. Let's just say that she was not too kind with her teeth on my dick and it left me a nasty scar on it...But that was not the real problem....the real problem began when I was too drunk to remember to use a condom and she did not remind me to use one. And I was having sex whit a bloody dick for more than 10-15 minutes, It was a hell of a shock to me when I change positions and got a look at what was a bloody mess down there...Long story short after that encounter I started to feel strange and was suffering from anxiety very much because I thot she gave me disease from her. When I google the symptoms it scared me half to death when I somehow believed I got all the symptoms of HIV..That made me very depressed and things got worst when you are told that the most accurate diagnostic for it is in 3 months...So I did not sleep more than 2 hours a night and started gaining weight because I was feeling sad..
I had night terrors and woke always in sweat because of it. You can imagine how that made me feel right knowing you may have a very dangerous disease that can change your life.
But you know what I did...I did not take one day off from work...hell I did not talk to anybody about this because I was so scared about what people will say.
The only time I got half a day off or a full day off work is when I want to get tested 2 times.
One time in the 73 days because I had 2 full nights whit out sleep and felt that I was gonna break mentally..the test was fine but it did not make me feel better because it was not a 100% test. The suffering continues till day 89 when the last of my test happen and I got a full test on every sexual disease know to man and that test was good but I became super anxious after this experience. When I came back 2 weeks later after hiding from a lot of people at a New Year party my really bad mental state the doctor had a look at my test result and he said I was in good health but that I seem very unstable. He did give me some meds and I took them for a week ...Until it made me feel no more emotion but it did help me sleep better.
I stop taking them after the second week because it made me feel like I'm being a zombie.. I still get sometimes the anxiety but I'm all good now.
The point of my story is. All of us were depressed or are still in a bad mental state. But that is not an excuse to just lie down and do nothing and make other pity you...That is one of the reasons you remain depressed. If you see people feel bad for you or if they want to help because of your depressions it will make you feel like you failed in being a human. I don't think anyone wants to be a burden in life but that is what you become if you embrace the Depression.

Out of 13 developers I watch, 7 of them had the same excuse of Depression or Bad mental state and only 2 of them after 3 months of receiving money decided to stop the patron support...it easy to get out of work when you don't need a legal document to see that your condition is real.
So don't accuse me of being on a high horse if you don't know me...All of us have a problem but some of us are not making excuses for it.
 
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this again, le sigh.. if you guys want to discuss depression at length, feel free to create a new thread. i think i'll even put it on the watchlist, why the hell not. but if you keep going at length in here, there will come another cleansweep. every what 10 days or less the topic gets derailed, for as long as i follow it.
sooo back to Topic:
the summary, IF cbob really suffered (or still does) from depression, at least he might have the income to get professional help. that's up to him.
the outcome of the game development, hangs on whatever (we still don't have details, mind you) he's stuck with. and as long as Marty doesn't get something to put his art on, he's stuck with not getting stuff done. ENDIF
 
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balanoxen

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I know very well what is like to be depressed and afraid.
For more than 3 months recently,I was at my lowest point in life after a one-night stand whit a France girl from tinder. Let's just say that she was not too kind with her teeth on my dick and it left me a nasty scar on it...But that was not the real problem....the real problem began when I was too drunk to remember to use a condom and she did not remind me to use one. And I was having sex whit a bloody dick for more than 10-15 minutes, It was a hell of a shock to me when I change positions and got a look at what was a bloody mess down there...Long story short after that encounter I started to feel strange and was suffering from anxiety very much because I thot she gave me disease from her. When I google the symptoms it scared me half to death when I somehow believed I got all the symptoms of HIV..That made me very depressed and things got worst when you are told that the most accurate diagnostic for it is in 3 months...So I did not sleep more than 2 hours a night and started gaining weight because I was feeling sad..
I had night terrors and woke always in sweat because of it. You can imagine how that made me feel right knowing you may have a very dangerous disease that can change your life.
But you know what I did...I did not take one day off from work...hell I did not talk to anybody about this because I was so scared about what people will say.
The only time I got half a day off or a full day off work is when I want to get tested 2 times.
One time in the 73 days because I had 2 full nights whit out sleep and felt that I was gonna break mentally..the test was fine but it did not make me feel better because it was not a 100% test. The suffering continues till day 89 when the last of my test happen and I got a full test on every sexual disease know to man and that test was good but I became super anxious after this experience. When I came back 2 weeks later after hiding from a lot of people at a New Year party my really bad mental state the doctor had a look at my test result and he said I was in good health but that I seem very unstable. He did give me some meds and I took them for a week ...Until it made me feel no more emotion but it did help me sleep better.
I stop taking them after the second week because it made me feel like I'm being a zombie.. I still get sometimes the anxiety but I'm all good now.
The point of my story is. All of us were depressed or are still in a bad mental state. But that is not an excuse to just lie down and do nothing and make other pity you...That is one of the reasons you remain depressed. If you see people feel bad for you or if they want to help because of your depressions it will make you feel like you failed in being a human. I don't think anyone wants to be a burden in life but that is what you become if you embrace the Depression.

Out of 13 developers I watch, 7 of them had the same excuse of Depression or Bad mental state and only 2 of them after 3 mounts of receiving money decided to stop the patron support...it easy to get out of work when you don't need a legal document to see that your condition is real.
So don't accuse me of being on a high horse if you don't know me...All of us have a problem but some of us are not making excuses for it.
I get where your coming from since this is a big issue in the community, but this is pirate site for porn. Idk what kind of depression you personally suffered, (have had some of my own where I seriously contemplated killing myself,) but I doubt complaining in here, and not as a paying customer does any good. I've paid for access to certain builds before personally, and dropped it after some delays early last year, a few months before covid. He was definitely more receptive to talk with people who were willing to support him from my experience. Again it's not like complaining here does anything, current donaters arn't going to be on here.
 

ogr blanc

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Man do i hate this excuse of a mental problem or depression ... it's like half the patron porn creators population have it.
The funny part not one of them has it at the start of a game or when the money is low. They get it after the 2 k mark or worse the 1.5 k mark and the chances to get it is bigger when the money number is bigger.
I hope the family and friends are together whits them in their desperate time in vacation, some of them I heard the illness evolve in a state they don't even feel bad to pause they Patreon after 3 months of suffering...those are the rare cases when the depression gives you" I don't give a fuck about the suckers symptom"...I wonder what their poor soul will do when a real job under contract happens will the lead or manager take pity on them ...Gues will never know :'(
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you are looking at it the wrong way, its not that they only develop it after they "make bank", its exactly because they make that money that the depression hits.you might not belive it, but depression isnt just a "thing". pressure is one of the biggest causes. "you have to deliver, you have to show its worth it", those things actually led to alot of burning out.

why do you think the cliche of highly paid alcoholic exists? belive it or not, the depression comes from them fighting to not lose this.

by the way, im not defending patreon milking, just explaining why things like this happen.

also, it takes a special kind of "degenerate", to make money out of porn, be it movie or games. the stigma does eat up your will.
 
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Anmitsu

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I know very well what is like to be depressed and afraid.
For more than 3 months recently,I was at my lowest point in life after a one-night stand whit a France girl from tinder. Let's just say that she was not too kind with her teeth on my dick and it left me a nasty scar on it...But that was not the real problem....the real problem began when I was too drunk to remember to use a condom and she did not remind me to use one. And I was having sex whit a bloody dick for more than 10-15 minutes, It was a hell of a shock to me when I change positions and got a look at what was a bloody mess down there...Long story short after that encounter I started to feel strange and was suffering from anxiety very much because I thot she gave me disease from her. When I google the symptoms it scared me half to death when I somehow believed I got all the symptoms of HIV..That made me very depressed and things got worst when you are told that the most accurate diagnostic for it is in 3 months...So I did not sleep more than 2 hours a night and started gaining weight because I was feeling sad..
I had night terrors and woke always in sweat because of it. You can imagine how that made me feel right knowing you may have a very dangerous disease that can change your life.
But you know what I did...I did not take one day off from work...hell I did not talk to anybody about this because I was so scared about what people will say.
The only time I got half a day off or a full day off work is when I want to get tested 2 times.
One time in the 73 days because I had 2 full nights whit out sleep and felt that I was gonna break mentally..the test was fine but it did not make me feel better because it was not a 100% test. The suffering continues till day 89 when the last of my test happen and I got a full test on every sexual disease know to man and that test was good but I became super anxious after this experience. When I came back 2 weeks later after hiding from a lot of people at a New Year party my really bad mental state the doctor had a look at my test result and he said I was in good health but that I seem very unstable. He did give me some meds and I took them for a week ...Until it made me feel no more emotion but it did help me sleep better.
I stop taking them after the second week because it made me feel like I'm being a zombie.. I still get sometimes the anxiety but I'm all good now.
The point of my story is. All of us were depressed or are still in a bad mental state. But that is not an excuse to just lie down and do nothing and make other pity you...That is one of the reasons you remain depressed. If you see people feel bad for you or if they want to help because of your depressions it will make you feel like you failed in being a human. I don't think anyone wants to be a burden in life but that is what you become if you embrace the Depression.

Out of 13 developers I watch, 7 of them had the same excuse of Depression or Bad mental state and only 2 of them after 3 months of receiving money decided to stop the patron support...it easy to get out of work when you don't need a legal document to see that your condition is real.
So don't accuse me of being on a high horse if you don't know me...All of us have a problem but some of us are not making excuses for it.
So you have some, uh, experience.
Well me too, not that "concentrated" but at least 10 years longer.
I tried the meds too or more like I had been forced to and they actually made me feel the best I remember ever feeling but I've stopped taking them after a year thinking "I'm fine now".
Well I wasn't, it came back though much weaker and I'm still not nearly fine but that's an another story.
I'll just say this - depression differs for every individual, symptoms, feelings, severity, duration, causes etc. so no two cases are the exact same though I'm surprised you still are able to hold such harsh outlook despite.
You have your own past and experiences and someone else has his/her own and some of those people are just not able to get out of it especially alone or at all.
Anyway, although I could go more in dept and kinda want to, this is not a place to talk about it, shouldn't have involved myself in the first place to start this discussion. No, actually I should have never involved myself in any kind of discussion on this website or better yet - on the internet in general.
Stupid fucking mistakes man.
Mods will probably remove my/our off-topic comments again and I'll get an another ban or something :WutFace:

Now to add something more in topic - as cruel as it sounds it's not like I particularly care about the mental state of some random porn game developers more than it's required for them to draw me more porn.
At the same time I obviously don't wish them anything bad either.
I think it's a reasonable approach to take when it comes down to the people you don't really know. I have never intended to attempt to defend cbob in the first place but I guess I ended up doing so anyway.
Though losing cbob's sense of humor forever would've been indeed quite sad.
I wrote that first comment because the issue he apparently struggles with is quite well known to me so I had wanted to provide some insight about how cbob may simply not be able to control his mental state so blaming him for his actions could be unjustified.
Let's just go back to talking about the porn from now on.
 
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Yeah, I mean, look where we are right now guys.” Is it really THAT surprising that depression is more prevalent than corona-chan here? When you really think about it? XD

i wonder how the guy who makes a game where you enslave abuse blackmail and rape a little blind girl is doing mentally? Hmmm:rolleyes: What about the Pope eagerly waiting for more of that game? What is their mental health like? :oops:

Ok, jokes aside, this is a consistent problem for devs here, and since this basically an entire site devoted to kickstarter indie projects I kinda expect it and I think you should too.

I’m not saying lay down accept everything or whatever. I’m just saying get used to it? Relax a little

But really, this is a forum completely devoted to discussing this? What kind of activity should you expect from people who actually care enough about this to consistently come here and talk about the game not being out?

There is nothing else to discuss other than the game not being out, and how we feel about that..

This is why I’m seriapilybin favor of shutting down the threads every time there’s a hiatus. There’s simply nothing productive to be seen in these topics during that time. It always follows the same toxic pattern. But...whatever.
 

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Are people ever gonna stop bitching about LOK? Yes, it wasn't as good as ATLA, but it was nowhere near horrible. You wanna see something that's actually horrible? Look at Peppa Pig or Caliou. Like seriously, this is like bashing the prequels in the sequel-era.
 

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Me too and while I regret watching the first 2 seasons I don't regret watching the 2 last seasons as that bitch Korra finally got in them what she had deserved (y)
It's hard to be stimulated enough by watching children's cartoons no? I guess people do something else while they're at it.
 
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Are people ever gonna stop bitching about LOK? Yes, it wasn't as good as ATLA, but it was nowhere near horrible. You wanna see something that's actually horrible? Look at Peppa Pig or Caliou. Like seriously, this is like bashing the prequels in the sequel-era.
People just dont understand that comparing things to Avatar is futile. Korra has problems but by normal metrics its still a damn good show.
 

Anmitsu

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It's hard to be stimulated enough by watching children's cartoons no? I guess people do something else while they're at it.
Yeah it is hard (or maybe I'm supposed to say that it isn't then :cautious:) that's why I'm here, to provide myself with more stimulation through witnessing some quality cartoon porn.
 

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Are people ever gonna stop bitching about LOK? Yes, it wasn't as good as ATLA, but it was nowhere near horrible. You wanna see something that's actually horrible? Look at Peppa Pig or Caliou. Like seriously, this is like bashing the prequels in the sequel-era.
Yea, I know, just could never get it up watching Peppa Pig.
 
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