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Techniques itself speak. Stamina is not always needed LOL :D
During cowgirl stamina is needed, when girl is tired, those one who girl is riding on need to support her - help her bounce :oops:(when Yoon gets tired S#kkh#n must help her:love::love:)
During standing sex both sides must have good stamina level

Yes, stamina is not always needed
I'm waiting for scene when Yoon and Michelle will lay on bed naked without using much stamina:giggle:
 
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During cowgirl stamina is needed, when girl is tired, those one who girl is riding on need to support her - help her bounce :oops:(when Yoon gets tired S#kkh#n must help her:love::love:)
During standing sex both sides must have good stamina level

Yes, stamina is not always needed
I'm waiting for scene when Yoon and Michelle will lay on bed naked without using much stamina:giggle:
Yes, I was kidding.
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Hello, thanks for visiting but which couple was swinging with whom?
Well, the MC couple with the boss couple, or maybe i m mistaken? Either way there is the hushband tentative to swinging just before she ran live for sometimes with her best friend, but that could be just a plot device to split them and in that case it's not needed. Glad of your freindly attitude, and good luck with your game.
 
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Well, the MC couple with the boss couple, or maybe i m mistaken? Either way there is the hushband tentative to swinging just before she ran live for sometimes with her best friend, but that could be just a plot device to split them and in that case it's not needed. Glad of your freindly attitude, and good luck with your game.
It is still too early, my friend. It would be a spoiler to add but really thank you for the suggestion. I and Stella will consider adding it in the future.
 
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There's also "netorase" - IDK what exactly that one means, not a genre afficiando.

The tag could definitely use getting broken down into the more specific non-abbreviated forms though.
I realize this has been beaten to death...I would like to add to this because you are correct. The issue in this Forum is the 'NTR' tag potentially covers various forms of netorare/netori/netorase and, as such, it can be applied in several ways.

One definition I have saved that explains it states:

Through the actions (or inaction) of the protagonist, or within an agreement with the their partner (wife, fiance, girlfriend), the partner ends up engaging in sexual relations with other people. Typically only the wife/fiance/girlfriend has sex with another (otherwise it is swinging - wherein both partners have sex with different people). Or sharing, wherein the protagonist is willing to have their partner have sex with another as long as they are also involved. Or, swapping, wherein the protagonist will swap their partner, allowing them to have sex with another while they, in turn, are allowed to have sex with the other's partner - yes, it is variation on swinging, although typically reserved for couples swinging together as compared to the swinging where it could be anyone.

In most NTR cases neither partner wants to cheat, although one or both of them is excited by the prospect of sex with another person - either as the participant or as someone that enjoys watching their partner being pleasured by another (yes, they can be involved depending on which version you are talking about *see above*). This can be something that happens based on an agreement between both partners or it could be where the protagonist convinces the other to have sex with someone for their enjoyment or personal gain, basically 'pimping out' or whoring their partner for their own enjoyment.

Regardless of which form it takes, the partner is having sex with another and both parties may enjoy it or, only one enjoys it.

NTR is the satisfaction of a kink/fetish desire, whereas swinging is a lifestyle, polyamory involves romantic feelings with others over the long term, cheating is completely deceptive and cuckolding is where the partner desires sex with others and the protagonist is powerless to stop it from happening (this CAN be a form of NTR, however it isn't the ONLY form of NTR).

All of that said, I see NTR is a much more complex process than standard cheating or cuckolding, which is why we see all of those tags available for visual novels and games here in the forums. In other words, the NTR tag may apply in addition to or in adjacency to the other commonly used tags (swinging, sharing, swapping, cuckolding, cheating, etc.).

Because NTR isn't as simple as a lot of people here try to make it sound, there will continue to be arguments about whether some of the games here require the NTR tag or not.
 

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Let me step closer to you.

Hi, I would like to ask you a few questions.
1. If possible, let me know why you play the "Free Pass".
2. What can I and Stella do for you again under the heading After Choices?
3. Should we upload Fan Arts Wallpapers? Or answer if we're going to have to do another Side-game.
Because creating Fan Art Wallpaper is the same time as doing another Game, which has to be done in detail.
Stella and my Idea for Side-game are as follows:
3a. Asian Stepmother (Male MC or Multiple Protag)
3b. Trans Woman MC

BTW, the rendering has done!!! Now I am doing the programming.
Don't know what gonna happen at next events but i know i want to see some great k-drama and not another sweet bullshit like in other games
Yes, i'm ready for this

Daily reminder is wrong name, i would call Your cosplay "Daliy Teaser" :KEK::love:;)
 

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Don't know what gonna happen at next events but i know i want to see some great k-drama and not another sweet bullshit like in other games
Yes, i'm ready for this

Daily reminder is wrong name, i would call Your cosplay "Daliy Teaser" :KEK::love:;)
Thank you so much. If you like K-drama in porn. Google Lee Chae Da. Thanks, me later ;). Ohh sidenote: don't search her if you don't like soft dramatic porn :D

Actually, I am cosplaying Yoon most of the time. My favorite in past is ... uh.... let it be :D it's nothing. Whee!!!
 
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Thank you so much. If you like K-drama in porn. Google Lee Chae Da. Thanks, me later ;). Ohh sidenote: don't search her if you don't like soft dramatic porn :D

Actually, I am cosplaying Yoon most of the time. My favorite in past is ... uh.... let it be :D it's nothing. Whee!!!
Hmm ... i think i saw her few times already
my friend is Jav fan, he have 60000 full Jav,Korea and other Asian porn vids :eek:
Most of all i like Javs lesbian, shemale on girl jav, that's why i like Michelle+Yoon, Yoon+Zoe and Yoon+Sukkhon configurations:oops::oops:

Cosplay is dangerous hobby, i saw vid where one man was laughing about second man's sword, then second man cutted first one's hand off :)- that was real katana, short one but real
 
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Let me step closer to you.

Hi, I would like to ask you a few questions.
1. If possible, let me know why you play the "Free Pass".
2. What can I and Stella do for you again under the heading After Choices?
3. Should we upload Fan Arts Wallpapers? Or answer if we're going to have to do another Side-game.
Because creating Fan Art Wallpaper is the same time as doing another Game, which has to be done in detail.
Stella and my Idea for Side-game are as follows:
3a. Asian Stepmother (Male MC or Multiple Protag)
3b. Trans Woman MC

BTW, the rendering has done!!! Now I am doing the programming.
1. I m probably the minority here, i don't really like lesbian stuff so don't take too much my opinion too seriously. I play this game because Yoon is cute, innocent, and traditional. The kind of girl hard to corrupt but when you finally corrupt here, the hard job feel really rewarding.
2. I prefere to be surprised.
3. Side-game are fun i suppose.
3a. Good idea.
3b. Not really into trans, but i m not your average player either.
 

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1. I m probably the minority here, i don't really like lesbian stuff so don't take too much my opinion too seriously. I play this game because Yoon is cute, innocent, and traditional. The kind of girl hard to corrupt but when you finally corrupt here, the hard job feel really rewarding.
2. I prefere to be surprised.
3. Side-game are fun i suppose.
3a. Good idea.
3b. Not really into trans, but i m not your average player either.
Come on don't be such a stranger, you came here giving your honest opinions and feedbacks, that seems a good friend to me. I read almost all of the feedback here. Thank you so much for your time and answer.
 
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I realize this has been beaten to death...I would like to add to this because you are correct. The issue in this Forum is the 'NTR' tag potentially covers various forms of netorare/netori/netorase and, as such, it can be applied in several ways.

One definition I have saved that explains it states:

Through the actions (or inaction) of the protagonist, or within an agreement with the their partner (wife, fiance, girlfriend), the partner ends up engaging in sexual relations with other people. Typically only the wife/fiance/girlfriend has sex with another (otherwise it is swinging - wherein both partners have sex with different people). Or sharing, wherein the protagonist is willing to have their partner have sex with another as long as they are also involved. Or, swapping, wherein the protagonist will swap their partner, allowing them to have sex with another while they, in turn, are allowed to have sex with the other's partner - yes, it is variation on swinging, although typically reserved for couples swinging together as compared to the swinging where it could be anyone.

In most NTR cases neither partner wants to cheat, although one or both of them is excited by the prospect of sex with another person - either as the participant or as someone that enjoys watching their partner being pleasured by another (yes, they can be involved depending on which version you are talking about *see above*). This can be something that happens based on an agreement between both partners or it could be where the protagonist convinces the other to have sex with someone for their enjoyment or personal gain, basically 'pimping out' or whoring their partner for their own enjoyment.

Regardless of which form it takes, the partner is having sex with another and both parties may enjoy it or, only one enjoys it.

NTR is the satisfaction of a kink/fetish desire, whereas swinging is a lifestyle, polyamory involves romantic feelings with others over the long term, cheating is completely deceptive and cuckolding is where the partner desires sex with others and the protagonist is powerless to stop it from happening (this CAN be a form of NTR, however it isn't the ONLY form of NTR).

All of that said, I see NTR is a much more complex process than standard cheating or cuckolding, which is why we see all of those tags available for visual novels and games here in the forums. In other words, the NTR tag may apply in addition to or in adjacency to the other commonly used tags (swinging, sharing, swapping, cuckolding, cheating, etc.).

Because NTR isn't as simple as a lot of people here try to make it sound, there will continue to be arguments about whether some of the games here require the NTR tag or not.
I can actually no longer have this discussion, nor do I like it. The problem is not the definition of NTR. In the meantime everything is reinterpreted that does not suit people. It hardly has anything to do with the original NTR definition as we know it from corresponding animes, anymore.

The real problem is the behavior of the so-called "NTR haters". These people just have fetishes that they don't like, like everyone else, as far as nothing special. But these haters deliberately go into games that actually or only supposedly contain the NTR content, they don't like. And then the eternal flaming starts, “how shit this content is, that the majority supposedly rejects it and that the developer has to take it out”. These haters pretend that a great crime has been committed against them, they consider themselves the greatest and most important ones, all of whom are entitled to have their needs satisfied. Just take a look at the “Red Falls” thread at the moment. Only a few days ago a horde of these haters invaded there. And there is the well-known flaming going on right now. And it doesn't stop there, it goes on and on. Instead of just accepting that this game is just nothing for them and just going somewhere else. Everyone else does that if they don't like a game, with the exception of the "NTR hater". They are specifically looking for the dispute. They just don't want to accept that there are people out there who like this content. "NTR haters" simply lack any respect for the tastes of others. And they also have no awareness of wrongdoing.

If there weren't this behavior, nobody would have a problem with these people.
 

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When will the 0.396 be released? Has the dev announced any tentative release date?
Sorry, I haven't announced the exact date yet but

1) Rendering - Completed
2) Photoshop - I am doing it now and almost complete.
3) Programming & Translation - about 20% has done.

I will post the progress chart here and on the patreon tomorrow.

Thanks for the interest.
 

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I can actually no longer have this discussion, nor do I like it. The problem is not the definition of NTR. In the meantime everything is reinterpreted that does not suit people. It hardly has anything to do with the original NTR definition as we know it from corresponding animes, anymore.

The real problem is the behavior of the so-called "NTR haters". These people just have fetishes that they don't like, like everyone else, as far as nothing special. But these haters deliberately go into games that actually or only supposedly contain the NTR content, they don't like. And then the eternal flaming starts, “how shit this content is, that the majority supposedly rejects it and that the developer has to take it out”. These haters pretend that a great crime has been committed against them, they consider themselves the greatest and most important ones, all of whom are entitled to have their needs satisfied. Just take a look at the “Red Falls” thread at the moment. Only a few days ago a horde of these haters invaded there. And there is the well-known flaming going on right now. And it doesn't stop there, it goes on and on. Instead of just accepting that this game is just nothing for them and just going somewhere else. Everyone else does that if they don't like a game, with the exception of the "NTR hater". They are specifically looking for the dispute. They just don't want to accept that there are people out there who like this content. "NTR haters" simply lack any respect for the tastes of others. And they also have no awareness of wrongdoing.

If there weren't this behavior, nobody would have a problem with these people.
Well said...I agree :cool:
 

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Taking "Daily Teaser" to heart, eh?
I can post thousands if you guys love my female side or my art or call it anything you like. I am so happy I created a small atmosphere that I love here. I can share what I like. I can't do like that on my you know, public account. On the other hand, I am afraid some people may hate me or my game because of my confusing life.
 
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