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So, the $64,000 question - if Patreon hadn't gone crazy with "Trust and Safety", would the canon be as it is now?
Hard to say. The story would most likely be the same. But we’ve worked under the assumption that Patreon would strike us if we have incest, so the story has been developed with that assumption for a while now.
 

WINTEX

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Hard to say. The story would most likely be the same. But we’ve worked under the assumption that Patreon would strike us if we have incest, so the story has been developed with that assumption for a while now.
So, to use or not to use incest patch? As I know, Woody Allen has relationship with his adopted child and he is not going to prison. Again, he is judged, but that's all. Mostly because he is a "father". But in this game, we have step brother and again, there is not even slightly reason that MC can't have relationship with Alice. Not even one. He would not go to jail, they can marry, so the main point of the game is kinda ridiculous. There is no such thing as "we can't be together". On the other hand, if they WERE blood related, main plot had sense. So I'm asking, should I use this patch, or not, as in future story would go farther and farther from typical incest game.
 

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So, to use or not to use incest patch?
I’d say use it if you like it to be full on incest. The story however won’t be catered for that.

But be wary, because I’ve seen a ton of people messaging me all confused to why the latest update removed incest. When in fact it’s that the latest update removed the fan made patch they had previously applied. So just know that the patch might mess with the canon story.

I just want to make it as clear as possible since I’ve gotten similar questions hundreds of times before. The game isn’t full incest, so the incest patch DOESN'T make the game to how it was “meant to be”.

As I know, Woody Allen has relationship with his adopted child and he is not going to prison. Again, he is judged, but that's all. Again, mostly as he is a "father". But in this game, we have step brother and again, there is not even slightly reason that MC can't have relationship with Alice. Not even one. He would not go to jail, they can marry, so the main point of the game is kinda ridiculous. There is no such thing as "we can't be together". On the other hand, if they WERE blood related, main ploye had sense. So I'm asking, should I use this patch, or not, as in future story would go farer and farer from typical incest game.
Just because something is legal, doesn’t mean you don’t have any reason to hide it. There are plenty of reasons. Some even explained in the game. You even stated yourself that he was judged by it, that alone can be reason enough to not be together for some people. So the fact that it isn’t full on incest doesn’t ruin the story elements established.
 

WINTEX

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The game isn’t full incest, so the incest patch DOESN'T make the game to how it was “meant to be”.
Ok, just finished it. Took me some time replaying it without incest patch, it would have been so much easier if i had that info from the beginning. Man, i even asked about it here:
mom-son? please, say "yes". pretty please! and one more thing, is this game was incest from the beginnig and censored later because of patreon rules, or "childhood friend" is the true way to play it? cause if it not meant as incest, i'll play non-incest version.
Too bad you were so much into circumcision talk, and did not saw it :LOL:
Ok, now some feedback. First of all, please redraw this scene 1.PNG I was kinda shocked to see this. It was... bad.
Second one is timeskips. 3month not calling dad? Right... Also the idea of making it non linear is great, but the idea of scene missing is not so good. There were scenes ready already, why not to make another "day" like for Melody during work. It wil not ruin the story, even more, it will make it better. Same pics, different dialog. Some kind of replay. Again, there was 4 month of skipped time, so why not to show fill it with something? We have a threesome and love scene with alice, why not to come up with some reason to show second scene later? Its been 3 month, are u sure that the quicky teacher-student is the right way to say "i love you" and not some other romantic evening? Its sound fake to me. Again, according to story, will there be a threesome or love event decided not by YOU, but whether Leah would be called by Karing or not. So why not to make it more linear to show everything? And then again timeskip.
What happened during that time? Dunno. I can assume, but thats all. Do MC have sth with Leah? No? In months? Melody? Still nothing? Why she assumed she might be pregnant if according to story i had only one action with her and it was anal?
I always have those kind of questions after timeskip. Later i'll find out that something was happening between all of them, but again. Wy not to show all scenes then? Are you really sure that in 3 month there were no reasons to visit Leah again to show "missing" scene? Well, all i wasnt to say, thats the story has lack of consistency.
And the final, but not less. The non-canon storys. Fuck. First two was ok, i was warned thets it non-canon, but it was in kinda "canon" way and was funny, childish, but something cute. But the last one? It ruined all impressions i had for this game. Really. Also the problem is that it was writen by the author of main storyline. Seriously, just "no" for that.
To sum up, i really want to become patreon for that. And i'll become if you tell me if its not gonna ruin my credit card history, its ok, if its only gonna say that its for patreon, but no details like "look he's paying for bro-sis porn game", seriously, thats the only thing stopping me. And again, sorry, currency exchange rate is a bitch, only minimum to you... Yep, i know i'm a dork and everything, but again, i'm still kinda cant forgive last special :)
 

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To sum up, i really want to become patreon for that. And i'll become if you tell me if its not gonna ruin my credit card history, its ok, if its only gonna say that its for patreon, but no details like "look he's paying for bro-sis porn game", seriously, thats the only thing stopping me.
I guess I won’t ask who or why someone views your personal credit card history, but all I can say is that for me it simply says “Patreon”. I don’t know how your bank displays transactions though. In the Patreon receipt that you receive after payment, you will see the name of the ones you pledge to. But it should only say “FFCreations” there, so nothing shady.
 

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I guess I won’t ask who or why someone views your personal credit card history, but all I can say is that for me it simply says “Patreon”. I don’t know how your bank displays transactions though. In the Patreon receipt that you receive after payment, you will see the name of the ones you pledge to. But it should only say “FFCreations” there, so nothing shady.
Done. Thanks again for the game and curse you for special :) Damn, 5 is too much, 1 is too little. 2.50 ideal)
 

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I unfortunately had the obligation to study statistical analysis in college. If it were as simple as that then you are by all accounts correct.

However, it’s all very situational. For instance, as someone posted earlier, about 50% of the brits are circumcised:
However that seems to be false. Since it’s actually Spain that’s 45%, the UK only has 3.8%. The point however is that there does exist countries in Europe that are in the high, which is what weighs the rates as high as 20%.

Where I live (Sweden), only 2% of the population are circumcised. Meaning you’d have to ask 50 people before finding a single circumcised person.

The reason for it being 20% is because certain countries have a rather large circumsision rate, while the rest have it very low. Making the rate pretty skewered due to these anomalies. To simplify what I mean, let’s say I have five secretaries, four are paid 1$/hour and the last one is paid 100$/hour. If you were to ask what the average pay to be my secretary is, then I would answer 21$/hour. Looking at it from a mathematical standpoint, that is correct. But it’s misleading when looking at it from a “realistic” standpoint.

The reason I stated “you have to struggle” is because unless you’re in a country that is part of the statistical anomaly, you will for the most part “struggle” due to the rate most likely being in the single digit.
But while you can earn everything between 1$ and 100$, you can only be circumcised or not. You cannot be circumcised to 63,75%... - but we are getting off topic in a very nerdy way... ;)
 

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But while you can earn everything between 1$ and 100$, you can only be circumcised or not. You cannot be circumcised to 63,75%... - but we are getting off topic in a very nerdy way... ;)
Well technically you could be 63.75% circumcised. But I don’t think anyone would want that.

However the example I made was to simplify the rate, thus it could be anywhere from 0-100%.
 

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To move away from the statistics for one moment but can we all just take a moment to appreciate the selfie Alice sends to the MC, such a great render what is totally not my desktop wallpaper right now.
 

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To move away from the statistics for one moment but can we all just take a moment to appreciate the selfie Alice sends to the MC, such a great render what is totally not my desktop wallpaper right now.
Glad to hear. You can use this version without the phone instead, if you think it fits better.
O14_screen.png

Or if you still prefer the original, I attached the 1080p version so that you can experience all pixels her nipples have to offer.
O14_org.png
 

MOAR Cowbell

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Glad to hear. You can use this version without the phone instead, if you think it fits better.
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Or if you still prefer the original, I attached the 1080p version so that you can experience all pixels her nipples have to offer.
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No problems and also thanks I think i'm going to use that one as well or at least for my phone background, however both are great. The no phone one is just <3 however I like the one with the phone too as it has the "Missing you <3" on it and I think thats quite cute as well.

To add I do have it as my desktop background my post above was just a little fun just like those asking for a friend things.
 

WINTEX

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Am i blind? It says there is also a Android version. But i can not find the download link.
Go to patreon page, all links are public. Donation only gives u early access. And yes, last Android version is 0.15.2.
 

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Quite a few typos in this game, like "spneidng the evening" or "please don't say that every again" and the common misuse of "your" and "you're"

Also when you go to work after planting the panties in susan's office you call melody "Nile" instead of "Niagara"
 
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