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Thanks boss I see a new desktop coming my soon.
no problemo :) .

remember you can hide the Ui with pressing "H" .

soo press H then press S and you got a nice screenshot with no text or else :D

and this is Ren'py Universal, work with all ren'py games.
 

DarkenDragon

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is there a walkthrough to help get all the scenes? I know there is a walkthrough on the first page, but its only upto version 0.05. and I know there are saves for the full unlock, but i'd prefer to know how to get there.

Im missing a few of the scenes and i've played both full perversion and full passive runs and cant seem to get the few I am missing.
 

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oh I had assumed all the walkthroughs were made by the developers. I would think that they were mainly the writers notes to help keep track of how the branching paths worked. it would be a good way to keep notes on how the story is progressing, also to help avoid the story getting too far away or such. but im guessing there is no official walk through then?

as I dont know the coding language of this game, I do know coding structure, if there is somewhere I can read the decision choices in a file, that would be helpful to see what I am missing.

are there any choices that require a combination of both passive and perversion points? because I have gone through both paths and still missing certain items in the gallery. so the only thing I can think of is that something requires a combination?
 

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oh I had assumed all the walkthroughs were made by the developers. I would think that they were mainly the writers notes to help keep track of how the branching paths worked. it would be a good way to keep notes on how the story is progressing, also to help avoid the story getting too far away or such. but im guessing there is no official walk through then?

as I dont know the coding language of this game, I do know coding structure, if there is somewhere I can read the decision choices in a file, that would be helpful to see what I am missing.

are there any choices that require a combination of both passive and perversion points? because I have gone through both paths and still missing certain items in the gallery. so the only thing I can think of is that something requires a combination?
We, or more accurately V.A Laurie initially did the walkthrough. However, due to the way the game is programmed, when we track progress and branches, it doesn't include what branch unlocks what images. I'm not even sure if what I'm saying makes sense, but I'm trying to explain something that's hard to explain without showing you the actual coding structure haha.

Anyways, that's why there's no walkthrough. It would require much more extra work each update to do. And that work is something we'd rather spend on adding new content to the game. But I usually try to help out people who come onto Discord and ask how to unlock certain images. So feel free to ask there.
 

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well I've seen these games coded with 2 different methods, let me know which one it might be or maybe if its a combination of the 2?

usually its either a point system where certain events only unlock based on if you have a certain amount of points into one of the stats. the other system is with flags, basically if you have done a certain event, you will be flagged for that event and thus in future events it will check if that flag was set off. Im guessing the game uses a bit of both?

if that is true, a good example of how to handle a walkthrough like this that should be fairly simple to put together would be the "landcaster boarding house" walk through where they would show each choice event and what flags or stat will be modified.

are there any files I can look into that would have these type of decisions so I can see what story paths I might have missed? thats really the type of content im looking for. just what story elements that I am missing.
 
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well I've seen these games coded with 2 different methods, let me know which one it might be or maybe if its a combination of the 2?

usually its either a point system where certain events only unlock based on if you have a certain amount of points into one of the stats. the other system is with flags, basically if you have done a certain event, you will be flagged for that event and thus in future events it will check if that flag was set off. Im guessing the game uses a bit of both?

if that is true, a good example of how to handle a walkthrough like this that should be fairly simple to put together would be the "landcaster boarding house" walk through where they would show each choice event and what flags or stat will be modified.

are there any files I can look into that would have these type of decisions so I can see what story paths I might have missed? thats really the type of content im looking for. just what story elements that I am missing.
Yeah of course it's a combination of both. We set flags and also check the points.

We know how to handle a walkthrough (I haven't played Landcaster Boarding House though). But the problem isn't HOW to do it. The problem is WHEN to do it. Like I said, this is hard to explain without you knowing how our game works internally, but it's not something that's easily translated into a walkthrough.

Thank you for trying to help though, it's very much appreciated.
 
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Yeah of course it's a combination of both. We set flags and also check the points.

We know how to handle a walkthrough (I haven't played Landcaster Boarding House though). But the problem isn't HOW to do it. The problem is WHEN to do it. Like I said, this is hard to explain without you knowing how our game works internally, but it's not something that's easily translated into a walkthrough.

Thank you for trying to help though, it's very much appreciated.
If someone feel the urge to write one, it's not exactly hard as he said. It's all a matter of time versus convenience.
 

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I'm gonna preface this by saying I havent read the thread. I just played the game from begining to [current] end, not having played it since like 0.02 or something (it ended after the first day I think).

I really like the main characters (both physically and as characters) but as I'm sure a lot of other people have mentioned, the fucking batshit crazy bathroom scene at the bowling alley really seemed out of place. I mean the wackiness of it, not the supposed "agenda".

Also while I buy susan as a character and that whole storyline, I really hated all of the classroom scenes. Seemed really weird and out of place that she is such a horrible cartoonishly bad teacher.

Also I might be alone in this but I actually feel the game is better from a story perspective if you leave Alice as a step sister rather than using the incest mod. The romance progression feels just right, whereas I think if they were blood related it would feel way too fast.
 

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Also I might be alone in this but I actually feel the game is better from a story perspective if you leave Alice as a step sister rather than using the incest mod. The romance progression feels just right, whereas I think if they were blood related it would feel way too fast.
The story was never meant to be about biological siblings, Alice has been the step-sister from the beginning. That patch is just a custom mod that was made much later. That is why the story makes more sense the way it is without the mod.
 
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The story was never meant to be about biological siblings, Alice has been the step-sister from the beginning. That patch is just a custom mod that was made much later. That is why the story makes more sense the way it is without the mod.
I know that but I suspect a lot of (a majority of?) people are using it.
 

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I know that but I suspect a lot of (a majority of?) people are using it.
Contrary to you, I doubt that it's the majority.
I never used that patch, never will. I don't really care if it's incest or stepcest or roomiecest, the story is good the way it is and was meant to be.
I appreciate the work bossapplesauce put into it, though. The man is a machine - look at all the mods, crunched versions, Android ports and bugfix patches he makes every freakin' day! And he manages to fill the moderator duties on the side, too. I suspect that there's a whole team behind that user name :winkytongue:
 

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Contrary to you, I doubt that it's the majority.
I never used that patch, never will. I don't really care if it's incest or stepcest or roomiecest, the story is good the way it is and was meant to be.
I appreciate the work bossapplesauce put into it, though. The man is a machine - look at all the mods, crunched versions, Android ports and bugfix patches he makes every freakin' day! And he manages to fill the moderator duties on the side, too. I suspect that there's a whole team behind that user name :winkytongue:
just an fyi, its not easy to say if it was intended to be written as an incestual story or not these days. only the creator of the story can really say so or not. this is because pateron has a rule against creating content with incest in it. so the work around is that they would continue to create it with different titles, so instead of siblings, they're step siblings or just family friends or something of the sort so that they can obey to the rules of pateron. then they would create a patch hosted somewhere else (like this site) where fans can download and restore it to how the writer intended for it to be.

but seeing how the patch was made by another person, then it is probably safe to say that the story really was made with the original idea of them being step siblings instead. so Im just saying, dont expect these games to be exactly what the writers intended it to be without the patches because it might not always be the case.
 

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just an fyi, its not easy to say if it was intended to be written as an incestual story or not these days. only the creator of the story can really say so or not. this is because pateron has a rule against creating content with incest in it. so the work around is that they would continue to create it with different titles, so instead of siblings, they're step siblings or just family friends or something of the sort so that they can obey to the rules of pateron. then they would create a patch hosted somewhere else (like this site) where fans can download and restore it to how the writer intended for it to be.

but seeing how the patch was made by another person, then it is probably safe to say that the story really was made with the original idea of them being step siblings instead. so Im just saying, dont expect these games to be exactly what the writers intended it to be without the patches because it might not always be the case.
Well who better to resolve this quandary than me?

When I came on as the writer, it was in version 2, so the "step" was already in place. That said, I picked up the story with the idea that "step" is the way it was. I also thought that what Retro said was pretty true. The step relation makes it easier to move quickly into sexual action without it feeling fake, so I prefer to write "incest" stories that way.

So, if you like it better if they are blood related, the patch is for you. If you don't mind the step- in there, or even prefer it, than I hope you enjoy what I'm writing :)
 

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Well who better to resolve this quandary than me?

When I came on as the writer, it was in version 2, so the "step" was already in place. That said, I picked up the story with the idea that "step" is the way it was. I also thought that what Retro said was pretty true. The step relation makes it easier to move quickly into sexual action without it feeling fake, so I prefer to write "incest" stories that way.

So, if you like it better if they are blood related, the patch is for you. If you don't mind the step- in there, or even prefer it, than I hope you enjoy what I'm writing :)
I'm glad to read your post VA... I very rarely use the incest mod in games but some of them really DO need it to 'make sense' of the game play - but Alice as the step-sister has always seemed to fit better in the story. Thanks for what you do too - it's one of the reasons why FFC has me as a patron!!! :)
 
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