Zerorox

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Someone over on ye ol' Discord asked about Ashe's mom as a romance/sex option. I really didn't have much in the way of concrete plans for that direction, just because the game is already kind of bloated with characters, and throwing her into Ashe's paths would add a whole other layer of complexity.

But, she and Cole are super fun to write, and I love their models. And I realized that if you decide you like Ashe better as a friend, there's some potential for MC to have a nice little event with Bonnie. So, I'll just tack that idea up on the vision board.

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Just so you're not disappointed -- there's a lot of good Gabby story content, but not much in the way of sexy content.

But, Chapter 5 is going to be very Gabby focused, with content for each of her routes.



Glitter Wraiths is a pretty bangin' name, not gonna lie..

I'll say this -- I'm under the gun, so things like alternate hairstyles and dresses are the first thing to go in that scenario. :'D



There are limits to what I can do with re-texturing objects in Daz. :'D
Yeah, no offence, just little observation from stockings fetishist, 95% of people care not anyway :p
With or without glossy garterbelt Ashe is sexbomb. Keep up the good work, and enough LI's and side girls... People will want to fuck literally every character with at least cute model anyway :ROFLMAO:
 

Joshy92

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Does anyone know can you be nice to the girls without sleeping with them or will the mc automatically sleep with them eventually anyway
Because like i said before Nicki has stolen my heart and there ain't room for anyone else lol
Also am i the only who noticed at the start of the game she only gave my mc a bj but the next time she saw me she said we had sex
 

NeonGhosts

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Does anyone know can you be nice to the girls without sleeping with them or will the mc automatically sleep with them eventually anyway
Because like i said before Nicki has stolen my heart and there ain't room for anyone else lol
Also am i the only who noticed at the start of the game she only gave my mc a bj but the next time she saw me she said we had sex
All sex is optional after that initial Nicki interaction. Once I redo Chapter One, even the Nicki sex will be optional.

As for the BJ = Sex thing.. That's just because I was sloppy with coding certain things early on. I've gotten better about it, and once I redo Chapter One, I'll be touching up the same thing in a few similar areas. For instance, making Gabby remember if you kissed her, but didn't go down on her, or if you brought Ashe to the brink of having sex, but then chose to send her away instead.

Growing pains of a dev learning on the job! :D
 

Joshy92

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All sex is optional after that initial Nicki interaction. Once I redo Chapter One, even the Nicki sex will be optional.

As for the BJ = Sex thing.. That's just because I was sloppy with coding certain things early on. I've gotten better about it, and once I redo Chapter One, I'll be touching up the same thing in a few similar areas. For instance, making Gabby remember if you kissed her, but didn't go down on her, or if you brought Ashe to the brink of having sex, but then chose to send her away instead.

Growing pains of a dev learning on the job! :D
Thank's for replying i like that sex is optional i have played some vn's that made the mc have sex with girls i didn't like lol
So i thought i would ask.
About the Nicki scene yeah i just felt a little like the mc took advantage of her at the start
Where as i wanna romance her very romantically lol She is the only one for me
I really like your game it's better than a lot of stuff on here btw.
 

Zerorox

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Thank's for replying i like that sex is optional i have played some vn's that made the mc have sex with girls i didn't like lol
So i thought i would ask.
About the Nicki scene yeah i just felt a little like the mc took advantage of her at the start
Where as i wanna romance her very romantically lol She is the only one for me
I really like your game it's better than a lot of stuff on here btw.
Good luck with Nicky, noble path (y)
Most of us have more humble goals like "making a harem of submissive cock slaves" or something, bruh :FacePalm:
 

silversurfer1

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Thank's for replying i like that sex is optional i have played some vn's that made the mc have sex with girls i didn't like lol
So i thought i would ask.
About the Nicki scene yeah i just felt a little like the mc took advantage of her at the start
Where as i wanna romance her very romantically lol She is the only one for me
I really like your game it's better than a lot of stuff on here btw.
It's interesting (and probably a sign of good writing) that people can have such different views because I think a lot of people saw Chapter 1 as Nicki taking advantage of MC.
 

NewTricks

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Someone over on ye ol' Discord asked about Ashe's mom as a romance/sex option. I really didn't have much in the way of concrete plans for that direction, just because the game is already kind of bloated with characters, and throwing her into Ashe's paths would add a whole other layer of complexity.

But, she and Cole are super fun to write, and I love their models. And I realized that if you decide you like Ashe better as a friend, there's some potential for MC to have a nice little event with Bonnie. So, I'll just tack that idea up on the vision board.

View attachment 2520232


Just so you're not disappointed -- there's a lot of good Gabby story content, but not much in the way of sexy content.

But, Chapter 5 is going to be very Gabby focused, with content for each of her routes.



Glitter Wraiths is a pretty bangin' name, not gonna lie..

I'll say this -- I'm under the gun, so things like alternate hairstyles and dresses are the first thing to go in that scenario. :'D



There are limits to what I can do with re-texturing objects in Daz. :'D
Fucking Ashe's mom seems like falling out of the bad decision tree and hitting every branch on the way down. Not only because it would hurt Ashe's feelings but her husband looks like what would happen if John Cena ate John Cena.
 

karrek

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It's interesting (and probably a sign of good writing) that people can have such different views because I think a lot of people saw Chapter 1 as Nicki taking advantage of MC.
Yeah, it's a very well done situation with a lot of nuance to it. I think to be fair to all involved, they're taking advantage of each other. Nicki comes there knowing that the MC has a crush on her and planning to use that against him to convince him to give her money. Once the MC finds out what she wants, he flips things around and uses her need of money against her. Yes, Nicki is the only one who came into the situation intending to take advantage of the other, but by the end both are guilty of using what the other one wants against them to get what they want.

Personally, I have a lot of sympathy for Nicki's situation and why she did what she did, but I don't have much sympathy for her playing the victim afterward, at least depending on how much of a dick the MC was to her. She just got a taste of her own medicine.
 

Avaron1974

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at least depending on how much of a dick the MC was to her. She just got a taste of her own medicine.
Thing is I only play the good routes and it puts Nicky at a disadvantage until much later.

She goes there at the start fully intending to use his crush to get money and on the good route he offers her the money no questions asked, she throws the sex in to ease her own guilt.

Then she flushes her life further down the shitter until coming back to him for more help.

She's started getting herself back together since she started working with him but by then he's also met a bunch of other women and started pursuing other relationships which seems to make her jealous but she didn't want a relationship.
 

karrek

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Yeah, how she comes across definitely depends on how you play it. I very much played it transactionally, which is just the result of her own actions, but I wasn't super mean about it.
 

RC-1138 Boss

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Thing is I only play the good routes and it puts Nicky at a disadvantage until much later.

She goes there at the start fully intending to use his crush to get money and on the good route he offers her the money no questions asked, she throws the sex in to ease her own guilt.

Then she flushes her life further down the shitter until coming back to him for more help.

She's started getting herself back together since she started working with him but by then he's also met a bunch of other women and started pursuing other relationships which seems to make her jealous but she didn't want a relationship.
On one side she comes from some very terrible past relationships and on the other side she has a crush on "good" Guy for some time. I get the feeling Nicki doesn't know what to do with those very confusing, and at odds, emotions and memories.
But i guess the fact Guy is moving on with his life may make her try to be more assertive of her feelings for him.
 
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Zerorox

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Tbh why I like this game:
It's a game "Oh, I met that type of girl" or "I dated girl with similar situation, ended bad"
Not a game "Ah, that's 2 slut types, shy type, milf with bad husband type, damsel in distress type..."
P. S. Yeah, we can categorize them too but they're just more then that :)
 

Zerorox

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Oh, I see that you too have played University of Problems. :ROFLMAO:
Yeah I have played UoP, but yet there are 80%+ VN's with girls havin' just basic "personalities" :FacePalm:

I don't want to say some devs haven't talked with women in real life but instead have seen a lot of anime and dojinshi... only cause I prefer to praise good works/devs instead of criticizing bad works/devs :HideThePain:
 

NeonGhosts

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From everything the developer already did ingame i really doubt this story will turn into a telenovela type of drama.
At the outset of this project I had two hard-and-fast rules that I swore I'd stick to: no organized crime stuff, and no sci-fi. These are kind of specific, but I feel like anytime I've seen a game I like derailed, it's been due to one of these elements. So, I use them as short-hand to remind myself to keep things relatively grounded.

The most far-fetched aspect (outside of MC's fortune) is Nicki's storyline, I think. But without getting too into specifics, some of that stuff is pulled from experiences I've had with a close friend whose life was derailed by bad luck, and quickly spiraled. It's dramatized and compressed into a tighter timeline to be more of a worst-case scenario, but only just.

Also, I've since added, "No vacations," to my list of plot no-no's. Every time I'm playing a game and the dev is like, "Hey, you like this whole setting and all the characters I've set up? Well, get in the car because we're leaving all that shit to go fuck around somewhere else for a few chapters," I kind of die inside.

Sorry to sound like the killjoy, but I say stick to your guns and leave Ashe's mom on the sidelines. The bloating is only going to stop when you're willing to draw a line somewhere. Leave the mom for an easter egg (or the next game).
The only reason I'm tempted to include it, is because I see it as being a one-off event that can really slot into any chapter, and only in one of Ashe's paths. So, it'll be more of a treat for people who want to friend-zone Ashe, and won't need to affect much of the broader story. Still, I get where you're coming from. If it happens, it won't be for a bit. Brittani, Gabby, and Viola are up next for content, so any Ashe stuff is probably a couple chapters away.

Tbh why I like this game:
It's a game "Oh, I met that type of girl" or "I dated girl with similar situation, ended bad"
Not a game "Ah, that's 2 slut types, shy type, milf with bad husband type, damsel in distress type..."
P. S. Yeah, we can categorize them too but they're just more then that :)
I'm glad the girls come across as fairly multi-dimensional. I usually use someone from my life as a starting point for each character, add in a dash of fiction, and find some social issue that I'd like to address through them.

It would be the equivalent to FIN spending its final act as a police procedural with the MC on trial
Devil in Cellblock D.png

*gulp*
 

Echoesinthedarkness

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idk, I can see the ending where essentially mc gets trialed and every girl will either witness for or against him depending on what kind of relations they were in.
that probably doesnt sound that inventive on paper, but what matters is ingame presentation
 
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