I was very disappointed with the last update.I think i'm gonna drop my patreonship to it's not worth my money neither my time so good luck on your journey neon ghost.
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had no idea the update was out thought it was still the beta. even if you no longer like the game , your post made me excited as I know won't be a super long wait till it's out for public release. Since the small bits I did read about the beta build I liked , since I like Risa. so thank you for this post nevertheless
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I am not sure about the others but this definitely is not true for me.I believe it boils down to this: some people with a very fragile ego where angry because Nicki had a actual sexual life (even if shitty) before hooking up with Guy.
So they spent some time screaming. How much of a whore she was, how they couldn't look at her tatoos because it reminded them she had been with someone else, how they wanted to take her out of the game and etcetera.
Until neon decided to "fulfill" their demands with that patch.
Dating with Brent is actually falls on MC not her. AFAIK, both MC and Nicki liked each other, Nicki waited a move from MC and MC was kinda acted cowardly with bunch of excuses. So it's on MC, not on Nicki.
For the hate part, it's the reason she was ready to exploit her friend for her boyfriend. She and Brent decided(probably Brent coerced her) that they exploit MC's love to Nicki. So both Nicki and Brent knew MC was in love with Nicki and they were okay to use that. In that interaction I genuinely disgusted when Nicki said to MC that Brent told her kiss MC on the cheek and he will give the money because he loves you. (Not the exact sentence but same meaning) Then Nicki accepted that offer, reached out MC and acted on it. That shit is disgusting for me and that's why I hate Nicki.
I never wanted Nicki out of the game, I know she is an important part of the story and also agree that patch was funny af. Anyways, no need to beat dead horse we'll have different opinions on the matter and this Nicki stuff was my first textwall war here. So no need to drag this on, though I wanted to say you are wrong and that is not the reason for Nicki hate for some Nicki haters.
While I don't hate Nicki what you said was pretty spot why I hated her initially. Only reason that I don't is I felt bad and believed everything she said when she came back but you know me im more forgiving than most.I am not sure about the others but this definitely is not true for me.
Dating with Brent is actually falls on MC not her. AFAIK, both MC and Nicki liked each other, Nicki waited a move from MC and MC was kinda acted cowardly with bunch of excuses. So it's on MC, not on Nicki.
For the hate part, it's the reason she was ready to exploit her friend for her boyfriend. She and Brent decided(probably Brent coerced her) that they exploit MC's love to Nicki. So both Nicki and Brent knew MC was in love with Nicki and they were okay to use that. In that interaction I genuinely disgusted when Nicki said to MC that Brent told her kiss MC on the cheek and he will give the money because he loves you. (Not the exact sentence but same meaning) Then Nicki accepted that offer, reached out MC and acted on it. That shit is disgusting for me and that's why I hate Nicki.
I never wanted Nicki out of the game, I know she is an important part of the story and also agree that patch was funny af. Anyways, no need to beat dead horse we'll have different opinions on the matter and this Nicki stuff was my first textwall war here. So no need to drag this on, though I wanted to say you are wrong and that is not the reason for Nicki hate for some Nicki haters.
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you want to hold,protect and love this clouded broken girl with all her problems with all your might,
she is like an angel in a golden cage that no one cares about or listen to,
She needs a protector in her life again who will give her real attention,love and protection,
and who will save her and the rest of the tender broken souls from the most evil mafia hands of Lucien.
Let them say what they want NeonGhosts ,
you have made her in a gorgeous girl who has only experienced the necessary problems in all her areas of her life,
and now finds someone who can put her life back on track.
she is like an angel in a golden cage that no one cares about or listen to,
She needs a protector in her life again who will give her real attention,love and protection,
and who will save her and the rest of the tender broken souls from the most evil mafia hands of Lucien.
Let them say what they want NeonGhosts ,
you have made her in a gorgeous girl who has only experienced the necessary problems in all her areas of her life,
and now finds someone who can put her life back on track.
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I do love that you can literally pet the dog to lose dark points.
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Me I just wanna titfuck Brittani.
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Did you show us a gun, though? You showed us girls getting ground down by an uncaring world. Sometimes that was as a result of a sketchy dude (Nicki most obviously), but other times the problems weren't personalized that way (like Mason or Carolina). If we looked at the problems the MC was facing as being a mix of bad actors and structural problems, the sudden swerve to add a personal nemesis is less a payoff and more of an unwelcome change in direction. IMHO, anyway.
Again, I see this as a natural result of the change in tone of the story. When the MC is dragged headlong into a confrontation with a smug nemesis, people are going to expect a more direct, hands-on solution than when he's engaging with more abstract problems at his own pace. If you didn't want Lucien to seem like a problem best solved by punching him really hard, I think it would have been better to introduce him in a more mundane manner.
For example, say the MC spends time fixing a problem for one of the girls, only to find out in the next chapter that the problem has somehow become unfixed. If the MC met/learned about Lucien as a result of digging into the matter, that would position Lucien as more of a chessmaster who needs to be outplayed rather than as an outside context problem that leapt up and we want to deal with ASAP. If you really want to play up the nemesis angle, have the same thing happen a couple times before the MC's investigation digs all the way down to Lucien.
Now I still haven't played anything past 0.57, so I can't speak with too much authority about how Lucien comes off. But based on the cliffhanger and the bits I've read here talking about the beta, I don't get the impression he was particularly subtle. And I know his intro was not.
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The Lucien/Risa problem is similar to the Nicki problem. Would I help both? Yes. Would I have either of them in my personal space ever again? NO!
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I'm not sure anyone was expecting an invincible MC in this kind of story. I think the main issue here for some including myself is just how badly the MC got punked/blindsided/threatened while being shocked about it. Like wtf did he expect when going to a shady place? Also having a gun/bodyguard does not equate to Lucien getting yeeted from the get go especially since this could have been "round 1" in their conflict where neither Lucien nor guy manage to finish each other off or where Guy barely manages to make it out. Anyways I truly wish you luck with the game, but I think after that last gangbang scene with Cherry I'm gonna peace as out I prefer the vile acts to be done by the MC personally at least for the scenes shown.
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Stockings - the devil definitely created them so women could have a tool to control us.
Depends. I recommend what was there. It was an amazing game. Some of the best writing you'll see anywhere on this site. That said...it is officially dead as a doornail, so if you're good at moving on from things, then yea; absolutely give it a play. If not, maybe better to spare yourself.
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I feel like people judge this more harshly then similar games on here.
especially poor Nicki and Risa they are angels maybe broken angels but they deserver all the love
Ohh, right, I remember now! In front of the mirror. Doh, my bad haha
Yeah, my attention span & memory have always been pretty bad unfortunately. If any of my attempts at analysis ever come off goofy or out of left field or missing some key things, that's why
I thought her nervousness was dependent on how she felt about MC, though? I guess it must've just been her overall enjoyment. I remember her dominant emotion being carefree fun, but my brain definitely skipped over that detail you have here if it was present in romance route. When I replay, I think I will have to pay much more attention to your posing.
And personally, I don't mind when porn incentives win over in minor ways like this.
So, given her nervousness, maybe another perspective is that MC is bringing that wild side out of her that she maybe has repressed to some extent after Wren's accident. Or, at least on certain MC routes. If I'm getting at all warmer, makes me wonder if we will see any interesting effects of that, especially relating to Wren
Well, I guess I will participate in this Nicki cycle haha. But, to me, Nicki is clearly a case of fucking up and mistaken intention (from the MC's pov). She consistently finds herself in the orbit of certain abusive men that she evidently feels some level of attachment & loyalty to, and then struggles to get away from them because of it. That unfortunately reflects a lot of women, some I've even personally known.I am not sure about the others but this definitely is not true for me.
Dating with Brent is actually falls on MC not her. AFAIK, both MC and Nicki liked each other, Nicki waited a move from MC and MC was kinda acted cowardly with bunch of excuses. So it's on MC, not on Nicki.
For the hate part, it's the reason she was ready to exploit her friend for her boyfriend. She and Brent decided(probably Brent coerced her) that they exploit MC's love to Nicki. So both Nicki and Brent knew MC was in love with Nicki and they were okay to use that. In that interaction I genuinely disgusted when Nicki said to MC that Brent told her kiss MC on the cheek and he will give the money because he loves you. (Not the exact sentence but same meaning) Then Nicki accepted that offer, reached out MC and acted on it. That shit is disgusting for me and that's why I hate Nicki.
I never wanted Nicki out of the game, I know she is an important part of the story and also agree that patch was funny af. Anyways, no need to beat dead horse we'll have different opinions on the matter and this Nicki stuff was my first textwall war here. So no need to drag this on, though I wanted to say you are wrong and that is not the reason for Nicki hate for some Nicki haters.
It baffles me, but some people have seemed to interpret that as confirmation that, at best, she's an idiot that isn't worth sympathizing with; or at worst, she's a selfish harpy that just wants to use MC for his money. It seems to have made her the perfect target for male paranoia. Which I actually understand if someone's experienced that sorta thing before; that shit sticks with you and probably fucks with your perspective on women for a while. But if they haven't even, it just seems to echo this whole modern dude-bro moment in time where women are being defined by dipshit grifters like Tate and his incel marks. I'm not aiming that at you or even majority of people who might share your view, but certain people's reactions here were that cringe and that's what it reminded me of.
Granted, I do think chp 1 can be improved regarding Nicki's writing and Neon's rework will help a ton in that regard; but we do already have plenty of evidence of her true character, even in that 1st chapter. In the very first scene with her, if you take the 2nd (corruption) option where you exchange money for sex, but are nice about it (complimenting her etc.), you will get to listen in on a phone call with Brent and find out that he wanted Nicki to ask for way more, but Nicki chose to be honest to MC and only ask for the amount they needed to pay off the debt. That's not something an unsympathetic 'moron' or 'she-bitch' would do, but it is certainly something a financially desperate person who doesn't want to take advantage of her friend might do. In later chapters, you also get moments where she expresses her feelings about MC without realizing he's listening in. Some people have thankfully adjusted their views of her because of that (doesn't mean they have to like her ofc), but others still refuse to accept that their first impressions were simply wrong.
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NeonGhosts i suggest a flashback for the Ep.1 remake of Nicky telling Brent how his plan of Nicky coercing Guy backfired, if he still fucks her