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How would i do it? Bail Gabby's dad out of prison, he has connections in the criminal underground. Pay him well to pay anonymously a guy to go and shoot Lucien. Pay some afore and well after. Done. Police won't dig too much for a bunch of criminals who had some score to set.

NeonGhosts feel free to use this plot element if you like it :)
Set up Pepper... she would cut his dick and righteously claim self-defense afterwards
Those sound like great plans! They also sound like they would fall under the category of "violence". ;)
 

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He is not sympathetic at all. He drags the girl away screaming and when Guy tries to interneve he hits him in the solar plexus. Also Lucien is the one who goes around carrying a gun.
Plus all the shit Lucien do while he stands guard. So don't expect those two scumbags to turn on each other.
 

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He is not sympathetic at all. He drags the girl away screaming and when Guy tries to interneve he hits him in the solar plexus. Also Lucien is the one who goes around carrying a gun.
Plus all the shit Lucien do while he stands guard. So don't expect those two scumbags to turn on each other.
That scene was really good. I really wanted to save the day but that fucker stopped me. And I'm going to remember that.
 
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Granted, I do think chp 1 can be improved regarding Nicki's writing and Neon's rework will help a ton in that regard; but we do already have plenty of evidence of her true character, even in that 1st chapter. In the very first scene with her, if you take the 2nd (corruption) option where you exchange money for sex, but are nice about it (complimenting her etc.), you will get to listen in on a phone call with Brent and find out that he wanted Nicki to ask for way more, but Nicki chose to be honest to MC and only ask for the amount they needed to pay off the debt. That's not something an unsympathetic 'moron' or 'she-bitch' would do, but it is certainly something a financially desperate person who doesn't want to take advantage of her friend might do. In later chapters, you also get moments where she expresses her feelings about MC without realizing he's listening in. Some people have thankfully adjusted their views of her because of that (doesn't mean they have to like her ofc), but others still refuse to accept that their first impressions were simply wrong.
I really don't want to go into these tbh, I have lots of suspicion and questions about those too. Especially after she took the money. Also I know these will start some fight too and my memory is not that fresh about it. I just wanted to say why I don't like her, not because she had previous relationship. My fav has a child from her past marriage.

Well, I guess I will participate in this Nicki cycle haha. But, to me, Nicki is clearly a case of fucking up and mistaken intention (from the MC's pov). She consistently finds herself in the orbit of certain abusive men that she evidently feels some level of attachment & loyalty to, and then struggles to get away from them because of it. That unfortunately reflects a lot of women, some I've even personally known.
Tbh, I kinda pity on her about this. She was treated badly by everyone she knew and she fell for slightest interest or kindness, that means even someone like Brent can sway her. I also see Nicki not accepting MC's relationship offer as a character growth. She has feelings to MC but when MC confesses to her she is wary of him. She does not fall for first kindness, interest from someone.

It baffles me, but some people have seemed to interpret that as confirmation that, at best, she's an idiot that isn't worth sympathizing with; or at worst, she's a selfish harpy that just wants to use MC for his money. It seems to have made her the perfect target for male paranoia. Which I actually understand if someone's experienced that sorta thing before; that shit sticks with you and probably fucks with your perspective on women for a while. But if they haven't even, it just seems to echo this whole modern dude-bro moment in time where women are being defined by dipshit grifters like Tate and his incel marks. I'm not aiming that at you or even majority of people who might share your view, but certain people's reactions here were that cringe and that's what it reminded me of.
The people who caused the patch are ridiculous. I've never wanted her to leave the story yet I don't like her, I don't trust her, I still think she can cause ill fate on MC. What did change for me about her? I had some suspicions that she had malevolent intentions towards MC and actually cahooting with Brent to get some more money. I don't have these feelings that strongly anymore.

Anyways, no more Nicki for me please.
(in this thread, not in the game.)
 

Dessolos

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Nicki can be trusted. She's a LI in an AVN for goodness sakes it's not like she's in cahoots with Brent or will betray the mc lol.
I know you don't play dark path at all Joshy and I barley play it myself I use the ctrl button alot whenever I have. But your comment got me thinking of something. I think it would be interesting for said dark path players if Nicki does work with Brent to get back at Guy for doing dark path things. Cause to me that version of Guy deserves to have bad things happen to him and more.
 

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I know you don't play dark path at all Joshy and I barley play it myself I use the ctrl button alot whenever I have. But your comment got me thinking of something. I think it would be interesting for said dark path players if Nicki does work with Brent to get back at Guy for doing dark path things. Cause to me that version of Guy deserves to have bad things happen to him and more.
I've thought of a good way Nicki could make evil path Guy suffer.
She could make him watch as she fucks a bbc!!! And not in a wholesome romantic sharing situation but in a mean 'sucked in I'm fucking another guy even though you love me' type of way
 
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That scene was really good. I really wanted to save the day but that fucker stopped me. And I'm going to remember that.
Wonder how Guy will do it. Sure looking for the previous victims is a good way to start investigating and finding evidence to make Lucien, his bodyguard and everyone else involved prosecuted but that still doesn't solve the issue of the current kidnapped girl.
If he really doesn't trust the cops he will need to find and go to the place where she is being held. Maybe he can try to convince Alex to come with him to even the odds a bit. But there is still the issue that Lucien goes around armed and i doubt the psycho has any issues with pulling the trigger. :unsure:
 
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I've thought of a good way Nicki could make evil path Guy suffer.
She could make him watch as she fucks a bbc!!! And not in a wholesome romantic sharing situation but in a mean 'sucked in I'm fucking another guy even though you love me' type of way
For what? Evil Guy destroying her life and bbc's life afterwards? Making it a life not worth living?
 

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So in this last update Lucien called me a white knight and similar things and I was wondering does he do that even if you are a rapist and stuff?
 
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I've thought of a good way Nicki could make evil path Guy suffer.
She could make him watch as she fucks a bbc!!! And not in a wholesome romantic sharing situation but in a mean 'sucked in I'm fucking another guy even though you love me' type of way
That's a curious thing. Is MC even love Nicki on evil path? Or just overly possessive of her? :unsure:
 
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