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My stupid idea: and open an subscription in Onlyfans ? If the goal is to raise money, instead of feed Patreon with stupid rules, you can post in OF news for free and paywalled links.
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- Mar 28, 2020
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Shit, I was going to use them.
Are we really going to be dependent on SubscribeStar?
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If nothing else, I think it'll always be an option to just do what devs used to do on Steam and remove all the sex, and sell it as a visual 'romance' novel, allowing people to patch all the smutty content back into it.
Honestly it's not a bad idea, but by now I've built a following on Patreon, so I'm hesitant to dilute it with a ton of other distribution spots. And even OF has certain content restrictions. :/
- Oct 10, 2022
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I am going it again but I caught another lie of Nicki. She say her boyfriend lost 100k in that 3 months but it was 100k to begin with, not 20k. If you ask for sex then be nice to her until you have option to call boyfriend, boyfriend mentions 100k and calling her dumb, idiot etc. After the call, she says he is not always like this. God fucking dammit, this woman.
She is just using MC and I am convinced she gonna pull real something to fuck MC over.
She is just using MC and I am convinced she gonna pull real something to fuck MC over.
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Wait, what? They were 20K in the hole, and the dipshit Brent used the MC's bailout as collateral to double down with more loans, ballooning their debt and leaving Nicki on the hook for 100K.I am going it again but I caught another lie of Nicki. She say her boyfriend lost 100k in that 3 months but it was 100k to begin with, not 20k. If you ask for sex then be nice to her until you have option to call boyfriend, boyfriend mentions 100k and calling her dumb, idiot etc. After the call, she says he is not always like this. God fucking dammit, this woman.
That all makes sense to me, and I don't remember Nicki saying anything else to contradict that basic chain of events.
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tldr; 140 images done, Viola's scene nearly done, sketching out some mini-scenes for Risa and Alex, and I gave Alex new eyes. Also explained the whole Patreon/SubscribeStar split.
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No, the original debt was only 20k, fuckface wanted her to lie and try and get 100k from MC but the debt was only 20k and that's all she asked for. Then the debt was actually increased to 100k during the time skip. She has made some truly idiotic decisions but I don't think she has ever lied to MC.I am going it again but I caught another lie of Nicki. She say her boyfriend lost 100k in that 3 months but it was 100k to begin with, not 20k. If you ask for sex then be nice to her until you have option to call boyfriend, boyfriend mentions 100k and calling her dumb, idiot etc. After the call, she says he is not always like this. God fucking dammit, this woman.
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Nicki says they are in debt of 20k but if you make a call to Brent while finger fucking Nicki, Brent mentions real number as 100k.
Exact words of Brent,
She answers she could only ask for 20k, then Brent try to negotiate and says go for 50k, if you kiss him he will give it, dumb, idiot etc.
After phone call, she defends him saying "he is not always like that"
I may have some screenshots but I don't wanna dig. If you want to see, go for kind sex exchange for money and when you have the option taunt her with boyfriend, choose that one. You'll see.
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I think in context, the difference between 20K and 100K isn't that Nicki lied about their debt. When she's talking to Brent her line is...
So the debt was 20K. But remember that Brent is a huge douche-canoe, and is under the impression that the MC owes him big for the crypto windfall. So Brent probably wanted Nicki to ask for 100K, but she didn't feel comfortable towing that line with the MC.
Rather than catching Nicki in a lie, I think you found her disagreeing with Brent in favor of the MC.
Good thing too, considering how fucked she'd been if Brent had 100K to use as collateral only to ultimately leave her holding the bag...
Wait, how do you end up making a call to Brent? I thought I'd seen every version of that scene, but never found that.
Man, the amount of variation in this game is insane.
Man, the amount of variation in this game is insane.
- Oct 10, 2022
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It says here "whole", so there is an exact number that Nicki awares of. She talks like she never knew about 100k when she came second time but she knew. Of course that 20k has meaning behind, maybe down payment or first installment or something like that but as a whole it is 100k and she knows, she totally lied about it.
We do not know what 100k or 20k stands for; that is sure, maybe 100k was their total debt and 20k was to loanshark maybe something else but that statement "whole $100k" there and it is something she knew.
Is MC confused because of she disagreed with her bf or 100k stuff? Is she apologetic because she disagreed with her bf or she got caught lying? Definitely not a good thing and she clearly was lying.
Btw, I totally agree with MC here. What was that attractive about Brent that she took all abuse, manipulation etc. She took everything he threw at her. Was it really because they were splitting rent, bills and expenses? She literally came to MC to whoring herself for Brent. She defended Brent every chance she got. She defended him after this conversation saying "he is not always like this." After he fucked her over, she took blame and said "I knew him and I did it anyway" btw, this is after he forged her signature and used her ID to get loan in her name. Then after MC showing her threatening texts, she said "he is not like that." What is so special about that douchebag I wonder.
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When she came to you for the money, offer sex exchange to money(prostitution) then be nice to her, compliment etc. then touch her then choose to taunt her about boyfriend then you will see. It is easy to miss because you need to choose "bad" option after chosed 3-4 "good" option.
You know your project is on the right track if this is the big discussion on the pirate site.
Ok, playing this while on dark path has got to be the most ironic and evil I've felt in my life
Uh, wait, I'm confused. If Brent actually wanted $100k, but Nicky only asked for $20k, doesn't that mean she's in MC's corner? Like, if she didn't have our best interests in mind and if she didn't feel guilty and was just using Guy, she would've 100% asked for the whole $100k. Asking for far less means she felt compelled to do what Brent told her (she's an easy target for manipulation clearly; c'mon, us dark players know it to be true, search within your feelings), but didn't actually feel right doing what she was doing.
Er, and of course, this is only the case if it's not even a simple mistake on Neon's part, which it might be
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Well I don't think Neon made a mistake because story fits with images and general storyline. Motives behind it, is not exactly important to what I say though. Maybe she thought MC would not give 100k so she went with bare minimum. What I said she knew 100k but lied about it then she came back 3 months later, she said she never knew about 100k and Brent took the money from their joint account. She is lying about it, motives up to her.Uh, wait, I'm confused. If Brent actually wanted $100k, but Nicky only asked for $20k, doesn't that mean she's in MC's corner? Like, if she didn't have our best interests in mind and if she didn't feel guilty and was just using Guy, she would've 100% asked for the whole $100k. Asking for far less means she felt compelled to do what Brent told her (she's an easy target for manipulation clearly; c'mon, us dark players know it to be true, search within your feelings), but didn't actually feel right doing what she was doing.
Er, and of course, this is only the case if it's not even a simple mistake on Neon's part, which it might be
Btw, what do you think about joint account thing? How close they were actually? She says she was with Brent because they were sharing rent, bills, expenses etc. then she have joint account with him. Probably only bank account of her because she put everything she had in there.
That phone talk, if you cross reference what she says when she came second time, fills with red flags. Something extremely fishy about Nicki.
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That is all based off you assuming that by 'whole' Brent means the 'whole debt'. I still stand by my reading that 'whole' refers to the 'whole amount he asked for', which doesn't have to be just the total debt. Again, Brent is a greedy asshole who thinks he is owed some of the MC's wealth. Also, he tries to bargain with Nicki on the phone to get her to ask for at least 50K when she refuses, that's not something you do if you're already actually on the hook for 100K. If they already owed 100K together, that is when you'd expect the truth to come out as Brent pleads with Nicki about how fucked they are and really need that entire 100K. But nope, he instead tries to haggle like he's talking to a used car salesman. So my interpretation fits much better with the entirety of Nicki's phone conversation (Nicki's pushback, the affirmed 20K debt, Brent's haggling); it's also more probable since it doesn't rely on the assumption that there is a grand conspiracy at play.
She didn't come to the MC to explicitly whore herself out. Brent wanted her to lay on the charm, flirt, maybe kiss the MC, and hoped the MC was enough of a pushover to fork over the 100K he thought he was owed. Brent is an idiot, and has nothing but contempt for the MC, so I'm sure this plan made prefect sense in his head. Even assuming Nicki was on board with doing anything more than being friendly and just asking for help, that would put her on par with... what? A lady working at a Japanese hostess bar? Not exactly Grade A escort material there.
As for why Nicki stuck with a dead-end relationship? Fuck if I know, but that situation is distressingly common place. People are not rational actors, and people's actions will constantly surprise you if you work off the assumption that people make rational decisions. They don't. We're creatures of emotion, even when we're trying to be rational. Going by her story in Ch3, it's a very believable take on someone being trapped in their relationship. She couldn't afford their apartment alone; so between circumstances, the sunk cost fallacy, and not wanting to admit that your relationship is a mistake? Yeah, that shit can plaster over a lot of problematic holes; right up until the point it can't. Everyone's breaking point is different, Nicki just found hers after she woke up to find out she was now 100K in debt to extralegal loan sharks. She also accepts culpability for not leaving Brent sooner, hence why she was adamant on solving the debt problem herself; she was too ashamed that Brent had played her yet again, and she wasn't going to ask for another handout after letting the first one slip through her grasp.
So I think that both amounts being 100K is a coincidence. That being said, I think NeonGhosts might want to consider that in his Ch1 Rewrite plans. If my take is the more accurate one, then simply changing the numbers so that they're no longer identical (e.g. Brent asking for 150K, or Nicki owing 80K, etc.) would make it much harder to interpret the dialogue in the way you have. There is a chance you're right, but I'm pretty skeptical.
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"Slightest hint of saffron from her"
Oh boy, she cooks
"Iridescent. It means like shiny and colorful. Like the candle holder in the bathroom"
And just like that I'm transported; think I know exactly what imagery you're going for. Even if you could never find the right assets to do her house (or bathroom) justice in a hypothetical future scene, just simple but highly effective little character exchanges like this give you so much, they're extremely efficient and I forget how a weaker writer would develop their character and attemp to give them color. Damn you're good. I swear by Grabthar's hammer as soon as my financial situation becomes stable, I shall become thine patron for many a fort-night.
EDIT: and even with Guy just replying "you're good with her" (to Carolina about her & Maya), I know that seems like such a throw-away typical filler line to some people, but if u think about it, it's brilliant. We know that Guy had a bad relationship with his mother, and I'm going to hard gander that she was not a good parent. People who had bad parenting are surprised by good parenting and find it noteworthy; people who had good parenting just see it as normal day-to-day.
Oh boy, she cooks
"Iridescent. It means like shiny and colorful. Like the candle holder in the bathroom"
And just like that I'm transported; think I know exactly what imagery you're going for. Even if you could never find the right assets to do her house (or bathroom) justice in a hypothetical future scene, just simple but highly effective little character exchanges like this give you so much, they're extremely efficient and I forget how a weaker writer would develop their character and attemp to give them color. Damn you're good.
I swear by Grabthar's hammer as soon as my financial situation becomes stable, I shall become thine patron for many a fort-night. EDIT: and even with Guy just replying "you're good with her" (to Carolina about her & Maya), I know that seems like such a throw-away typical filler line to some people, but if u think about it, it's brilliant. We know that Guy had a bad relationship with his mother, and I'm going to hard gander that she was not a good parent. People who had bad parenting are surprised by good parenting and find it noteworthy; people who had good parenting just see it as normal day-to-day.
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You are right here, I actually exaggerate there but she knew MC love her and in a few path she said she love MC, with that thought in mind calling flirting, kissing etc. whoring is not going overboard I believe. Depends on the bar, don't you think?
Also after MC said he was going to give the money, she was asking what she has to give. Since there was nothing valuable on her, the implication is clear here. This was on no string attached path btw. Also in this path, if you choose kissing option beforehand first she refuses MC because she has a boyfriend then after MC say he was going to give money, she offers to MC to kiss her. I mean if she did not break up with her boyfriend in between, she accepts to become intimate after get payed. In exchange for sex path, she offers herself to take next step for $500 then another next step for $1000 and so on. Basically, she charges money for each extra service. Also after MC forget about extra service fees, she reminds him that. So it clearly was not a thing said in the heat of moment. Weirdly, in dark path even though she gets called whore 100 times there was not a clear indication that she came for whoring herself. MC also mentioned the cloth choices of her, beforehand she never wear fishnets and dress around MC, even though they met for similar setups before. So, maybe it was too much of me calling her a whore but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.Oh no, I am perfectly aware how stupid people can be when it comes to relationships with hands-on experience. Also I think characters are too close to real life. All I am trying to do is making sense even if it's a little.
Now, this is the part we disagree. First of all, I really am not after a conspiracy though plausible. She might lie because she was ashamed to ask that much of money or too proud to ask all of it or just try to fix immediate problem etc. She really did not need to have too big reasons to lie. Secondly, I do understand where you are coming from but that 100k was a number Nicki and Brent knew prior the meeting and I think both debt and money they want was being 100k is being coincidence is too far fetched. You are right I did assume it was debt and maybe I was wrong about it, maybe it was the amount Brent wanted to spend on KobaltCoin again, and also you are right that whole does not necessarily needs to be about total debt but it was an agreed sum by both Nicki and Brent. I thought it was debt because Nicki's apologetic behavior, I still think highly likely that it was total debt. All in all, Nicki knew about 100k and she said she did not and that is a lie told to MC. Also haggle thing was no big deal, when people notice they cannot reach what they aim for they tend to haggle. Brent wanted 100k for whether it is for debt or not, when he understood that was not on the table he tried to get 50k instead of 20k it's only natural for a leech like Brent.
So I think both numbers being 100k is being coincidence is too unlikely and like you said if Neon won't change those numbers I think my interpretation is the likely option. That means Nicki was aware of the 100k, she said Brent did it without her knowledge with simple logic from both statements Nicki was lying.
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Is Risa a new character?
Dude, too many chicks on MC's plate... I'm starting to worry about him.