VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch. 9 v0.60c] [NeonGhosts]

[zeph19]

Correct! I had experience writing stories and doing traditional/2D art, but I'd never coded in Ren'py/Python or used Daz before.[...]

I think you're lying about the dumb-dumb part, because the speed at which you evolve is insane. How long did it take you to get a little comfortable using Daz? How long did you work on the first release of FiN?

I want to make my own game at some point, too. Downloaded Daz, got overwhelmed and closed it after playing around for 10 minutes. Reading your comments makes me want to try again. I'm confident in the writing and coding, but when it comes to the visuals I'm just not that optimistic, lol.

On the topic of voicing the game: I like the idea and I'd be curious in what context you'd like to do it. ClassyLemon does it in his cinematic scenes where it highlights the gravity of either the situation or the character's convictions/feelings.

Generally, my personal experience with voices in games wasn't all that good though. There's either loud background noise in the sound file that doesn't match the current situation or other things that don't belong there. I think we all got our ears blown out once or twice by some sharp noise, too. Or, the classic: some audio from porn that doesn't fit the situation / character at all just shoehorned in there.

The sound file you attached was enough for me to be able to read viola's lines in that person's voice. She sounds nice.

 

[Uriel ☁]

My problem with voice acting in VNs is that reading is much faster than speaking, so I end up having already read the sentence while the voice is still playing and that's frustrating. That's why I always mute voices if they're in the game.

Still, I like how Classy Lemon handled them in cinematics. I just don't think they really work outside of them.

 

[abgazil]

Oh for sure. I'm experimenting with some tracks right now.

As for 'Viola's' accent, my friend is a native Russian speaker who only speaks very little English, so.. 'Bout as close to realism as I can actually get on that front. :'D

The clip sounds strangely close to an Asian accent, but then again, I guess Russia is part of Asia

 

[Krynh]

The clip sounds strangely close to an Asian accent, but then again, I guess Russia is part of Asia

Russia is huge, so there's going to be regional accents like the difference between someone from london or liverpool

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Not gonna lie, she's definitely up there in the rankings but the scene her made me feel like she'll always just being playing a character and not actually want to do those things herself.

Hmm. Yes, yes, I see.

Yea, I'll need to see what Neon brings us in the next update to see just how kinky Ashe can get. Otherwise, I think Brittani has a lot more potential to be that kind of character. Although, like I said before unless a relationship develops it'll just feel like she's playing a role. Which is still hot but not the quite the same.

You can get Brittani to open up about herself a little in the bedroom after the photoshoot. She'll get out of acting mode and just be herself. It's very sweet Apparently, she likes it up the butt, or something lol. I know dirt road surfing isn't nearly as taboo these days, but it's still definitely my perfect kind of naughty

 

[Joshy92]

How many sex scenes have you guys seen so far?
I think I have seen two or maybe three.
I like that they aren't the focus they are there to support the story imo.

 

[NeonGhosts]

I think you're lying about the dumb-dumb part, because the speed at which you evolve is insane. How long did it take you to get a little comfortable using Daz? How long did you work on the first release of FiN?

I want to make my own game at some point, too. Downloaded Daz, got overwhelmed and closed it after playing around for 10 minutes. Reading your comments makes me want to try again. I'm confident in the writing and coding, but when it comes to the visuals I'm just not that optimistic, lol.

On the topic of voicing the game: I like the idea and I'd be curious in what context you'd like to do it. ClassyLemon does it in his cinematic scenes where it highlights the gravity of either the situation or the character's convictions/feelings.

Generally, my personal experience with voices in games wasn't all that good though. There's either loud background noise in the sound file that doesn't match the current situation or other things that don't belong there. I think we all got our ears blown out once or twice by some sharp noise, too. Or, the classic: some audio from porn that doesn't fit the situation / character at all just shoehorned in there.

The sound file you attached was enough for me to be able to read viola's lines in that person's voice. She sounds nice.

Aw jeez, I don't think I was really comfortable with Daz until Chapter 3 of FiN. And I don't think I was very good at it until Chapter Four. Honestly, if you want to pick it up again I'd just download some free HDRIs from

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of standing poses (because it's huge and flexible in use), and experiment with posing and lighting characters. Once you can do that, you've got Daz 90% figured out. The other 10% is just stuff like experimenting with ghost lights, camera depth of field, using shaders, etc.

I'm kind of thinking that if I do voices, it'll probably be something like.. The first time the character appears, you'll get a little snippet of conversation. Just enough to establish the voice. And yeah, I'm honestly not a huuuuge fan of music/SFX/voices in VNs, but I think it's something that, if implemented well, definitely adds another level of polish/production value to a game.

And as for the real-life Viola, she matches her fictional counterpart in being profoundly good-natured and endearing.

 

[zeph19]

Aw jeez, I don't think I was really comfortable with Daz until Chapter 3 of FiN. And I don't think I was very good at it until Chapter Four. Honestly, if you want to pick it up again I'd just download some free HDRIs from

You must be registered to see the links

, get

You must be registered to see the links

of standing poses (because it's huge and flexible in use), and experiment with posing and lighting characters. Once you can do that, you've got Daz 90% figured out. The other 10% is just stuff like experimenting with ghost lights, camera depth of field, using shaders, etc.

I'm kind of thinking that if I do voices, it'll probably be something like.. The first time the character appears, you'll get a little snippet of conversation. Just enough to establish the voice. And yeah, I'm honestly not a huuuuge fan of music/SFX/voices in VNs, but I think it's something that, if implemented well, definitely adds another level of polish/production value to a game.

And as for the real-life Viola, she matches her fictional counterpart in being profoundly good-natured and endearing.

First of all, thank you very much for the advice, I will 100% try this out. It's difficult to find a starting point with these things, so this is greatly appreciated.

I like the idea and it's a great compromise if you don't enjoy voices/sounds in general. It's enough to add (even more) life to your characters while it won't add much to your regular workload once they're all in. And just like you say, it does add production value. Definitely does in ProjP.

Have a nice rest of your Sunday. Cheers!

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Oh for sure. I'm experimenting with some tracks right now.

As for 'Viola's' accent, my friend is a native Russian speaker who only speaks very little English, so.. 'Bout as close to realism as I can actually get on that front. :'D

I was wondering that because of the accent. Nice to have the confirmation.

 

[allanl9020142]

You can get Brittani to open up about herself a little in the bedroom after the photoshoot. She'll get out of acting mode and just be herself. It's very sweet Apparently, she likes it up the butt, or something lol. I know dirt road surfing isn't nearly as taboo these days, but it's still definitely my perfect kind of naughty

Well yea, I no doubt like the character. That's why she's in my top 3.

 

[Master of Puppets]

And as for the real-life Viola, she matches her fictional counterpart in being profoundly good-natured and endearing.

It must be pretty weird having a girl based on you in a game that goes to such dark places as this one does.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

Well yea, I no doubt like the character. That's why she's in my top 3.

Sorry, you seemed like you thought Brittani was only ever acting in her sexy scenes. I was trying to say there was one in her bedroom where you can see her actual self come through. There's so much in this game that gets missed by people because there's so many 'sub-routes', wasn't sure if maybe you'd missed it.

It must be pretty weird having a girl based on you in a game that goes to such dark places as this one does.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking lol... hm, some people are really open even to darker sexual fantasies. I mean, there are women out there who've fantasized about rape before... I've never met one (to my knowledge..) but, evidently, they're out there lol

 

[soldano]

The truth is that the sound in a VN doesn't give a damn to me. In fact, when a VN has sound, I mute it. For example, Special Request comes to mind, which I ended up tired of hearing the "Oh my god!". Music doesn't bring me anything, but it doesn't bother me. But the voices are usually annoying.

 

[Master of Puppets]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking lol... hm, some people are really open even to darker sexual fantasies. I mean, there are women out there who've fantasized about rape before... I've never met one (to my knowledge..) but, evidently, they're out there lol

I've read that it's actually the most common fetish that woman have, but I don't know just how common it is, just that it's supposedly more common than any other individual fetish.

 

[Joshy92]

I just did another playthrough.
And I really like the scene where You can have Brittani degrade you when she pretends to be Pepper
I hope there is more scenes like that in the future.

 

[NeonGhosts]

It must be pretty weird having a girl based on you in a game that goes to such dark places as this one does.

She reads hentai, so there's not a lot that weirds her out.

I should also clarify that, when I say a character is based on someone, that's all verrrry loosely based. I tend to use people I know, or occasionally famous people, as starting points. I've mentioned before that there's a real-life Nicki, a real-life Ashe, a real-life Mason.. But, the ratio of reality to fiction is different for all of them, and usually they end up being a combination of a few people, with a healthy dose of drama and exaggeration thrown in.

I just did another playthrough.
And I really like the scene where You can have Brittani degrade you when she pretends to be Pepper
I hope there is more scenes like that in the future.

That was definitely intended as a little teaser for what we can expect on Pepper's love path. I'm not super into femdom, but I want to have it represented, and Pep feels like the natural choice.

 

[Master of Puppets]

That was definitely intended as a little teaser for what we can expect on Pepper's love path. I'm not super into femdom, but I want to have it represented, and Pep feels like the natural choice.

I hope that that will be optional, as I'm not into that at all. And "femdom = degradation" is an incredibly annoying cliche.

 

[SlapE]

I don't mind some light femdom, where the woman takes control and is a bit more assertive and even some light restraints (like being handcuffed to the bed), but humiliation, stepping on, tying up, pegging, whipping/spanking, etc... stuff like that is a turn off for me. If any of this is the case with pepper, that will be sad for me, since I really like Pepper, but at least every other LI has been to my liking so far regardless. Anyways, I'm excited for the update, and can't wait to see more Ashe.

 

[Joshy92]

I'm kind of in the middle when it comes to humiliation.
I don't care for stuff like being spanked or tied up.
But if a girl calls me things like pathetic or worthless
Well that just turns me on makes me want to please her even more lol.

 

[TigerWolfe]

I'm kind of in the middle when it comes to humiliation.
I don't care for stuff like being spanked or tied up.
But if a girl calls me things like pathetic or worthless
Well that just turns me on makes me want to please her even more lol.

I'm in the don't hurt me don't degrade me, but boss me around to your heart's content camp. Although were I in that culture I think I'd be a switch so I'm open to a lot if it'll pleasure my partner.