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Finished the first run (Hero route). So much to think about. The themes can be perceived as pretentious, but it is philosophical in nature and philosophical musings usually are pretty pretentious.

This isn't an eroge. It is silly to go into this expecting to fap. In that vein, it's silly to even debate whether some scenes are NTR or whatever. It's just not that kind of story. This is not a romance. Nor is it some kind of corruption game. There are no love interests or targets of sexual desire that you might find in an actual porn game. The story doesn't at all revolve around sex or love. There are moments of levity in between the overbearingly heavy narrative. You will find humor, hope, camaraderie, resolve, goodness, and yes, even love. But the reader who understands the nature of the story (by the end of chapter 3 at the latest), will be tempering their expectations. The more lighthearted and heartwarming things get, the stronger the feelings of foreboding doom. However, it doesn't come off as artificial. Things are set up correctly and follow the natural course, dictated by human nature and the major characters' resolve in following their "Way."
 

HenT_Tea

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Don't know if it's just me but I need to get into a certain mood to even start VNs like these. I guess I'll just add it to my backlog since it looks interesting.
 
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BlinkA1

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got it to run on windows 7 with these dlls
maybe you dont even need all of them
Sorry this might be a noob question, but how do you use these dlls? are you just going to copy paste them in the game directory of Full Metal Daemon Muramasa or something?
 

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Finished the first run (Hero route). So much to think about. The themes can be perceived as pretentious, but it is philosophical in nature and philosophical musings usually are pretty pretentious.

This isn't an eroge. It is silly to go into this expecting to fap. In that vein, it's silly to even debate whether some scenes are NTR or whatever. It's just not that kind of story. This is not a romance. Nor is it some kind of corruption game. There are no love interests or targets of sexual desire that you might find in an actual porn game. The story doesn't at all revolve around sex or love. There are moments of levity in between the overbearingly heavy narrative. You will find humor, hope, camaraderie, resolve, goodness, and yes, even love. But the reader who understands the nature of the story (by the end of chapter 3 at the latest), will be tempering their expectations. The more lighthearted and heartwarming things get, the stronger the feelings of foreboding doom. However, it doesn't come off as artificial. Things are set up correctly and follow the natural course, dictated by human nature and the major characters' resolve in following their "Way."
Hence my question, type #1 or type #2.
 
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Some characters close to the MC get raped, And he dares to say that he doesn't know if it is NTR. It's supposed to be funny or what!?
Nah, there's no NTR in this game. The main protagonist isn't cucked at any point. The "fake" protag? Not really ntred, rather completely devastated. NTR is about jealousy or being emotionally hurt because your girl was fucked by someone else - there's no such a thing in this game. There is NTR in a way that some male side characters ntred but not by the MC. Anyway, if you find NTR too "hardcore" for you, then avoid this game because it has way darker things happen in it.

This isn't an eroge. It is silly to go into this expecting to fap. In that vein, it's silly to even debate whether some scenes are NTR or whatever. It's just not that kind of story. This is not a romance. Nor is it some kind of corruption game. There are no love interests or targets of sexual desire that you might find in an actual porn game.
You are wrong, there's romance, especially in the true route. In the first two routes, there's some romance as well, it's just twisted. If Kageyaki didn't feel anything towards the two heroines in their respective routes then he wouldn't sleep with them. It's just that for each of the main characters their beliefs ended up being more important than their feelings towards each other.

When people say that the plot here is dark that can mean one of two things:
1. The world is dark, the protagonist does some evil shit and sees some evil shit but he "wins" in the end and gets a happy ending even if it's "happy" only from a player perspective. Makes you ask hard questions and thing about life but does not make you feel drained or defeated at the end.

2. The world is dark, the protagonist does some evil shit and sees some evil shit and gets a sad ending. Loved ones die, romances don't pan out, and the player overall feels like he got punched in the gut in the end.

Which of the two sorts is this game?
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You still dont adress a fact he doesnt have to kill them he can throw into jail or have somebody else kill them or have them bleed out or use poison. Good and evil balance out each other. He didnt have to kill first guy in chapter 1 he was literaly unable to do anything so he kill then both for no reason. Even if there is a balance he didnt have to unbalanced it. Also this is not story about hero is most edgelord thing to say that i cant take it seriously.
Bruh, everything is properly explained later in the story. You aren't supposed to understand his actions until then. It's intended to be a mystery. If you or any other 80 IQ people need to know the reason, then here it is.

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You are just like little kids who complain that the author doesn't immediately tell you who is the culprit in a murder mystery fiction, lol.
 
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Some characters close to the MC get raped, And he dares to say that he doesn't know if it is NTR. It's supposed to be funny or what!?
Dude, literal meaning of NTR is cheating or being unfaithful. haven't played the game yet so I don't know if he MC is even romantically involved with the characters you're referring to but I bet they aren't even that close.
I bet if a close female friend of yours got married to another guy you'll probably feel cucked or maybe even your mother and father having sex in a hotel somewhere you'll probably call it NTR too. lol. Get outta here.
 
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Dude, literal meaning of NTR is cheating or being unfaithful. haven't played the game yet so I don't know if he MC is even romantically involved with the characters you're referring to but I bet they aren't even that close.
I bet if a close female friend of yours got married to another guy you'll probably feel cucked or maybe even your mother and father having sex in a hotel somewhere you'll probably call it NTR too. lol. Get outta here.
Actually, just as I mentioned before, netorare is about jealousy and emotional investment, so you are wrong as well. While this game doesn't have NTR, there are netorare stories where a childhood friend or mother are "stolen" from the MC. If the main character is romantically interested in his mother and then witnesses her having sex with his father and is jealous then yeah, it would be considered NTR. The same goes for female friends, in fact, about one-third of the netorare content is about childhood friends and crushes being stolen from the MC even before he confesses his feelings.
 
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You people are overthinking this. There is a simple way to check for NTR.
1. Is the plot setting the player up to expect a romantic relationship between the character he is supposed to identify and another?

2. Does that other character get stolen away and goes to have sex with that someone else?

3. Does the player feel crap as a result.

If all 3 are hit, than it's NTR.
 

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Oh my god, why should this bullshit be present ... NTR, i hate it...
I remember something similar, Kikokugai -Reichin Rinrinshan
I love and hate this game
 
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