It's a fetish for some folks, but I think mostly, like in IRL porn, it makes posing a lot easier to do.
Another dev recently wrote on their discord, that a big dong is actually more difficult to work with within the 3D software. But that might depend on the actual models and assets too, as well on the level of detail given to the "contact points".
Interesting I've seen devs say the opposite. I wonder where the disconnect happens, if it's differences in software or process or skill etc.
For me personally in HS2, the big dick causes a problem. Due to its size I get clipping issues during blowjobs when the girl isn't a 2 meter tall Veludra. I usually have to break the modal a bit (strech mouth bones to the limit, increase jaw bones, remove teeth) to make it fit.
I'm pretty sure that a lot of harem fans won't want to see a scene of Adrian with any LI. In fact, just one scene like that will be enough for a lot of them to jump ship and never return.
Personally, if you change "for a while" to "never again" that would be more appropriate: Any LI that the MC sees having sex with Adrian (or any guy really) will never be a LI again and I'd rather hear from her as little as possible. And I want to have the option to reject her outright.
I don't think that even by combining the abilities of Cervantes, Shakespeare, Goethe and Alexandre Dumas you could save that LI.
For now, this is the most interesting option you have presented.
I don't think that many of the harem romance game fans would want their LIs to have sex with a guy other than the MC, even if the MC is present, in fact the very option is going to seem creepy to many of them.
Too much information, and none of it that I like.
The idea of "fighting for the LIs" doesn't excite me, hell, I don't like it at all. The idea of the MC having rivals only appeals to me as a philosophical option that will never happen and that the MC will never have to face.
I like this option better than any that even remotely includes the possibility of Adrian having sex with one of the LIs.
I was almost waiting for your response... Your answer was also pretty much exspected, but that also shows me, how passionate you are about my work... so passionate in fact, that you're double voiting...
Regarding the Battle Minigame, it was fine, easy to understand and I found it easy to win (on the first try). Personally I'm not a big fan of minigames, in fact I only tend to like RPG-type combat ones (as was the case here).
I would definitely prefer the points based system for Adrian, as it is rewarding to work towards the characters I like while trying to figure out how to balance everything. Makes me invest in the gameplay way more. I really like the idea you suggested with that. Regardless of the decision keep up the great work!Major Devlog 5 (Read post before answering poll!)
Preview
For a change, we are starting with the previews today. First, here is the usual pie chart detailing the line count of each LI:
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I have to admit, this time around I suffered a little bit from a lack of motivation and inspiration. On one hand, this means, I’m a little bit behind in schedule and haven’t done much regarding renders or animations… On the other hand, the distribution is a little bit uneven…
As you can see, Sarlé will have a rather large quest line, followed by a major Lin event. But Ladira, Rachel, Sabrina, and Pirlia are a little bit on the low side… If you have good ideas for these four, I’m all ears. Additionally, we will talk about Pirlia later…
Similar to the last updates, this one here will again feature a longer linear part, which will continue directly after the last cliffhanger. After that, it will be a normal “on-the-ship” update with mostly side quest content.
It the moment, about 15% of all the renders and animations for the next release are already done. I guess I will have the next update ready somewhere in December…
NTR
To be honest, I somewhat imagined more interaction below these posts, but I’m certain this topic will stir up some engagement…
As you can probably refer from the last cliffhanger and the uncharacteristically large spike in Annica's lines, she’s going to join the ship and finally become a full LI. But the problem is, that she comes with baggage… her brother… Sadly, I have already characterized Adrian as someone who wouldn’t just idly stand by as the MC continues to build his harem. Therefore a little discussion about NTR is needed:
I once read a take on NTR stating, that they like having the possibility of NTR in a game because it gives the game some kind of tension and the risk of failure. As I’ve explained before, I want to make the game 100%-able in one run and as long as you don’t ignore fourth-wall-breaking warnings, you will get to see basically everything the game has to over sooner or later… This means, there will probably be no possibility to permanently screw up and lose a girl.
But there could be the chance to get NTR-ed, which is still a source of tension… But there’s another problem with this approach: The metric to determine whether or not a girl will cheat on you, is most certainly going to be the affection point system. But since Funkelregen is a free-roam / sandbox game, I will most certainly punish people for simply doing events in the “wrong” order.
But I could also go even further: Maybe the MC and Adrian come to an agreement, which allows them both to fuck all the LIs without major problems. This “free-use” scenario is a possibility, but probably the worst… for once it’s the narrative least engaging one and goes against most player expectations/preferences. Also, many of the LIs shouldn’t play along with this. For example, Rachel is already making wedding and retirement plans with the MC…
Ok… now to more realistic possibilities, that will not make 90%+ of my community implode…
First, there’s the usual AVN tradition, where whenever another male approaches a LI, she (instantly) refuses in favor of the MC. Of course, this could also work in my game… but only with one big problem… or rather a 114 cm tall problem…
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I’m pretty sure everybody here can guess, that leaving Saefia and Adrian in the same room alone for more than 5 minutes could result in NTR. At the moment the relationship between Saefia and the MC isn’t deep enough for Saefia to be (fully) faithful to the MC. In other words, I will have to deepen the relationship between the two in the next few updates. This will lead to an increase in text and sex scenes for Saefia in the next updates (see the topics below and above).
Additionally, there’s a little idea flashing through my mind… Maybe you could catch Saefia and Adrian in the act. After that, the MC is (understandably) hurt and wants nothing to do with Saefia for a while. In the meantime, Saefia realizes, that her relationship with the MC is the only “real” one she ever had and the only one that went beyond a one-night stand, so she comes crawling back to the MC…
This could become a very impact-full moment in the development of Saefia, but I’m also aware, that my writing skills may not be sufficient to pull that off… This could probably lead to even more people disliking this already questionable LI…
The next solution to avoid NTR I like to call the Eternum approach: Here, the male sidekick is lusting after a girl, the MC (and to an extent the player) have no interest in. In the case of my game, this will be the character, who is now just called “Time Warden”. For reasons, that are probably obvious by now, she will never be a full LI and not be plowed by the MC, while remaining an important character story-wise, with whom paths will cross soon.
Also Adrian will never be able to score with her for several reasons. Also, it could become a running gag, that Adrian is the only one too dumb to realize, he’s trying to hit on his own goddaughter… Also, Lisaeria could be another candidate for this...
Until now, I’ve only talked about mitigating the downsides of having Adrian around, but one reason to keep him around is, that you have an easily available candidate for possible MMF threesomes later in the game. These will be, of course, optional/avoidable/with the MC’s consent.
Initially, pictures pop into my mind of the two friends spit roasting Sarlé or double penetrating Sabrina. Some more complex scenes could be with Zoela, who gives both of them a handjob at the same time and whoever cums last will be ridden by the little mistress, while the other has to watch. Also, Minerva is planned to be a “the more the merrier” kind of person. (This is just a brainstorming and not a fixed road map)
Also, I could make tension-filled storylines with the MC and Adrian "fighting" over the LIs and finally starting to hate each other... but for the record, I have to admit, that I have no major plans on how to continue Adrian's story...
Instead of keeping Adrian around, we could also go the nuclear route and kill him (narrativly) off… According to my current plans, the end of V0.8 will have a major battle and it would be easy to severely maim Adrian at this point, so he basically spends the rest of the game in a hospital on Vesella.
Additionally, this could fuel a “survivors-guilt-plot” for Lin, who wants to make sure nobody dies again under her command…
So all in all we have the following options:
If you’re reading this, you probably have a poll somewhere on your screen, where you can voice your opinion on the future of the game with a single click. Additionally, I’m also hoping to see some rather fleshed-out comments from you, since this is a very difficult topic…
- Free use / sharing
- NTR based on affection points
- Girls reject Adrian a priori
- Girls reject Adrian (with a Saefia upsi…)
- Adrian focuses on side character(s)
- Kill’m off!
And before you ask, almost all side quests in V0.7 are written as if Annica and Adrian aren’t yet on the ship.
Sex Scenes
Hi, my name is Janamus, I’m German and I’m surprisingly good at math and statistics, so one day I woke up and made a list of how many sex scenes each girl has. The following diagram counts how many (sexual) animations each girl has:
First I guess nobody is surprised, that Annica has the last place for obvious reasons…
But the second last place on the other side… Let’s be blunt: It’s more or less a mistake from the author’s side when the most slutty LI has the fewest sex scenes… As I’ve mentioned in some devlog, I want the sex scenes to feel at least somewhat earned, and since Saefia’s attitude is something like “I’m bored, let’s fuck!” I probably was a bit too cautious with rushing her sexual relationship… To correct that, Saefia is the first one to be granted a sex scene in V0.7, which will catapult her in front of Sabrina.
Speaking of which… Sabrina is also very low on scenes… at least she got her first real one this update… The problem with Sabrina is of course, that she herself despises the sight of her lower body. Although she’s one of my personal favorites, I took me far too long to find a workaround for that… But at least by now, I have a plan for the next scenes starring Sabrina…
The last LI I want to specifically talk about is Zoela… the second of the uncharacteristically celibate Illabs… The big problem with Zoela up to now was, that she basically had the monopoly on main quests. Although Zoela has 17% of all LI’s lines, most of that was spent on developing the main quests and not on the relationship between her and the MC. I think, the only event, whose only purpose was to deepen the romantic relationship between her and the MC, was the drinking event with her and the MC back in V0.1.
The only reason she’s not on Saefia or Sabrina’s level is, that her own scene has 6 individual animations as well as a few teasing scenes spread throughout the remaining game. I hope the two teasing events in the last update kept you well entertained…
I don’t have much to say about the other LIs or rather I don’t see a need to change/address something.
But to be more general: The time of the sex scare early game with only 2 animations per scene is over by now. Therefore I want to focus on fewer, but longer (and maybe better) scenes. I’m aiming for about 3 scenes per update (i.e. one per beta).
This means it will become way less likely to find 4 to 5 scenes per update like in the last 2 updates. Therefore the next update is planned to only have 3 scenes, which will consist of 5, 5, and 4 animations each with respective updates to the showers.
Also, I have by now gotten a few people pointing out my quite slow sexual progress and the fact, that until now, no penetrative sex with a main line LI has happened. Well… that’s going to change next update… twofold…
Main Quest Update
When we meet up again for the next big devlog, the texts for V0.8 will most certainly already been written, so I have to talk about this now:
At the moment the main quests are a little bit one-dimensional. Basically for the last updates (V0.5, V0.6, V0.7) the fundamental gameplay loop concerning the main quest is as follows: Talk with Funkelregen, fly to a certain relevant position, experience a long linear section, and repeat.
This is mostly due to the fact, that we are in the middle of two plot strains. The first “chapter” of the game (if you want to call it that) is about “something is fishy on the ship”, which pretty much ended in V0.4, and now I’m in the middle of building up to the “something is fishy in the galaxy” part – hence the little bit of a drought…
To over-correct this, I’m planning to make V0.8 basically a “main story only” update. This means I will focus on continuing the main story with little to no regard for LI’s side storylines. The only exception is probably going to be Sabrina, whose next major story segment needs to happen in the main story segment of V0.8. I hope you got her affection to the appropriate level by then…
Contrary to the other main quest update (V0.4) V0.8 will not be just a big blob of linear storytelling with maybe a limited free-roam section. Instead, much of the storylines will work within the existing ship-bound free roam as well as some zick-zacking through the galaxy. At the very end of this update there will also be a big battle in which Adrian could meet his maker…
The text distribution for V0.8 will therefore most certainly look very distorted, since I will only adhere to the needs of the story and will not even try to generate an even distribution. This will also be exacerbated by the fact, that half the side character cast will make (major) appearances in V0.8.
One drawback of this main quest update is, that my current draft only features a single sex scene and it’s even with a side character, although you will be allowed to go all bases… When I have time/budget to spare, I’ll maybe make a scene with Sarlé, Rachel, or Ladira, since their next scenes won’t require much built up…
If you’re firmly against a main story update, V0.8 could theoretically become an event like most others: A little bit more main story than usual with a bunch of side quests. The drafted story of V0.8 would be split in the middle and you would have the usual 3 scenes per update.
Additionally, if we’re going to split the main story, you will have to pick another option for our NTR/Adrian problem rather than killing him off. I can’t pretend for 3 updates, that he doesn’t exist.
Minigame / Features
Often minigames or similar things are often disliked in AVN. But concerning the minigame from V0.5.1 I got no comments until now. This means, that there were no game-breaking bugs and no one was so offended, that they felt the need to write a (negative) comment.
Often the criticism of minigames in an AVN is, that they destroy the flow of the game and add nothing to the game/experience. The space combat, on the other hand, skips itself after 3 failures and it serves a narrative purpose: It demonstrates the universe's power scaling and Funkelregen’s claims of being the most powerful/advanced spaceship in the current galaxy.
Furthermore, another space combat is planned at the end of V0.7. I’m not sure, if I will include it in the third beta already or if I wait for the full release… Anyway, I hope you will like this one as well...
As I’ve already mentioned in another devlog, I want to give myself a programming challenge each update – something where I don’t have to think about what to do, but about how to do something. This usually results in a new feature for you or something like that. For V0.6 and V0.7 these features are their respective space combats.
At the moment, I’m not sure what this challenge is going to be in V0.8. One possible feature, that gets requested more often lately is a gallery and by now you can easily justify the need for one – just look above…
But as I’ve mentioned some other time, I really enjoy the idea of justifying a gallery as an in-universe manifestation of the MC’s supernatural abilities. But the plan is to grant him his first batch of power-ups at the end of V0.8, so they will be playable in version V0.9.
Additionally, I’ve got questions for every single affection threshold in V0.5. Therefore I also wanted to rush the main story to a point, where I can introduce a system to right possible “fuck-ups” through some “wibbly wobbly, timey wimey“-stuff. This system is also planned for V0.9.
Reworks / Pirlia
At the moment, I have finally cleared my backlog of crappy animations from V0.1 and V0.2. From my perspective, there are no animations/scenes, where I could achieve a significant improvement in animation quality. If you think there’s another section of the game, that is needed for a rework, I’m all ears.
As you could have guessed correctly, Pirlia is still on top of the list of the most disliked LI:
For starters, Pirlia is of course disliked by some due to her femdom content. It’s a shame that this is not something all can enjoy, but that’s a totally legitimate reason to dislike her. But I have to admit, that her specific take on femdom is rather one-dimensional: Basically all three of her scenes consisted of demonstrating her physical might and pressing her partner/victim into her crotch only she’s satisfied. In the future, I will try to go on a more “sophisticated” approach with her…
One other criticism I got was, that they simply dislike Pirlia’s character. And I can somewhat understand where they are coming from… By now I can see, that there are 3 or 4 instances, where she’s (unnecessarily) mean and there are little to no redeeming characteristics as long as you are not into big dominant women. Therefore I am tempted to rework a few of her older events to make her more appealing in terms of character.
In addition to that, Pirlia is also the most underdeveloped LI in the game - except Anni of course… She has the least amount of lines, only closely followed by Ladira, but that’s a story for another time…
When I look at the dissatisfaction with Pirlia, I sometimes compare her to Lin. There’s no way denying it, that Lin is a very unlikable character at the beginning of the game. If I were to conduct a poll like the above in the aftermath of V0.1 or V0.2, I’m pretty sure Lin would have beaten Pirlia without a struggle… in fact, one of the very first messages I ever got was from someone not liking Lin…
But I have to be a little bit proud of myself after I was able to make her way more likable and now she’s the second least disliked LI only after dear sweet little Rachel. Maybe I will be able to salvage Pirlia in a similar manner if I focus a bit more on her… there has already been a crack in her tough persona… maybe she will be more vulnerable towards the MC and will open up more…
But of course, there will be some of you who think Pirlia (at her current status) is unsalvageable and don’t want to force themselves through the game until she might become better… Therefore, I wanted to ask if I should spend my energy/time on reworking some weak/bad events with her in the early game or if should I focus on further developing her character.
Somehow related to this is my future proposal for reworks: Back in the winter of 2022, when I barely knew what I was doing, I of course made some mistakes… The by far most long-lasting of these is the gym. Its lighting is just horrible… Since many events this update take place in the gym, you may have even noticed, that I had to do some ad hoc lighting changes, resulting in random changes of brightness between camera movements…
Therefore I have the idea of reworking all the visuals for all the scenes happening in the gym. This of course will take a lot of time, so I will probably spread the workload over 3 updates or so…
Additionally, 90% or so of all events in the gym center around Pirlia, so this could be an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone… So if you have any suggestions for the gym or Pirlia in general, I’m all ears...
Minimap Readability
I have a question for all the new players (or the ones with a good memory) regarding the minimap: Were you able to understand the minimap immediately?
The linear prologue shows you around a bit, but it doesn’t give you full overview and the map on the other side, doesn’t directly tell you what each room’s purpose is, and yet the quest log assumes you know all the rooms’ names.
Therefore I wanted to ask you if you got lost on the map. In the earliest stages of the game, I thought about adding tooltips to each element of the map displaying the room’s name, but this quickly caused visual overload and reduced readability… Maybe there’s some other way like inert text, that displays the name of the room…
Additionally, there’s no indicator in which room the MC currently is. Therefore some sort of indicator could be helpful…
Showers
Except for my editor sometimes, I have gotten little to no feedback for the showers. By now they start feeling a little bit like a chore to me – something that I think I have to do, but with little to no idea, if it’s even necessary/beneficial…
Therefore I want to ask directly: Do you often use the showers? Are you satisfied with its randomized manner? Do you think it’s annoying, that you can’t decide which girl you get and what scene you will get? Do you think it’s necessary to expand this “soft gallery”?
Hair
As you’ve probably seen, the girls’ hairstyles almost never change – the only exceptions are Sarlé, Rachel, and Lin in like a handful of cases. This is mostly because my semi-face blind ass would get a seizure when the girls randomly change hairstyles and would need a few extra seconds to recognize them. Additionally, since this is a free-roam AVN, changing hairstyles (permanently) could lead to continuity errors or to (unnecessary) work for me.
But one character where changing hairstyles could be useful is Lin. Her usual high ponytail fits her usual bossy character quite well, but maybe something else could be fitting better, whenever she shows her submissive side… I’m thinking about the louse hair, she has during her sick day for example…
Keywords
Uff… I’m pretty sure this here has to be the longest devlog, I’ve ever written and there are also some heavy topics, I need your perspective on… So, here are the keywords, i.e. the points for which I need your input the most:
I'm looking forward to reading your comments and of course, you are also allowed to write about anything else you want.
- The NTR/Adrian problematic
- V0.8: Normal events ↔ Main story focus
- Gallery: Now ↔ Later
- Other requested features
- Scenes/Events in need of a rework
- Improving Pirlia (Rework ↔ Further development)
- Minimap readability
- Thoughts on the showers
- Changing hairstyles (Especially Lin)
Like many others, i don't really like netorare. I feel in those NTR situation, the MC does things that i find dumb. So I don't like the idea of Adrian doing anything sexual with the LIs.
NTR
To be honest, I somewhat imagined more interaction below these posts, but I’m certain this topic will stir up some engagement…
As you can probably refer from the last cliffhanger and the uncharacteristically large spike in Annica's lines, she’s going to join the ship and finally become a full LI. But the problem is, that she comes with baggage… her brother… Sadly, I have already characterized Adrian as someone who wouldn’t just idly stand by as the MC continues to build his harem. Therefore a little discussion about NTR is needed:
I once read a take on NTR stating, that they like having the possibility of NTR in a game because it gives the game some kind of tension and the risk of failure. As I’ve explained before, I want to make the game 100%-able in one run and as long as you don’t ignore fourth-wall-breaking warnings, you will get to see basically everything the game has to over sooner or later… This means, there will probably be no possibility to permanently screw up and lose a girl.
But there could be the chance to get NTR-ed, which is still a source of tension… But there’s another problem with this approach: The metric to determine whether or not a girl will cheat on you, is most certainly going to be the affection point system. But since Funkelregen is a free-roam / sandbox game, I will most certainly punish people for simply doing events in the “wrong” order.
But I could also go even further: Maybe the MC and Adrian come to an agreement, which allows them both to fuck all the LIs without major problems. This “free-use” scenario is a possibility, but probably the worst… for once it’s the narrative least engaging one and goes against most player expectations/preferences. Also, many of the LIs shouldn’t play along with this. For example, Rachel is already making wedding and retirement plans with the MC…
Ok… now to more realistic possibilities, that will not make 90%+ of my community implode…
First, there’s the usual AVN tradition, where whenever another male approaches a LI, she (instantly) refuses in favor of the MC. Of course, this could also work in my game… but only with one big problem… or rather a 114 cm tall problem…
I’m pretty sure everybody here can guess, that leaving Saefia and Adrian in the same room alone for more than 5 minutes could result in NTR. At the moment the relationship between Saefia and the MC isn’t deep enough for Saefia to be (fully) faithful to the MC. In other words, I will have to deepen the relationship between the two in the next few updates. This will lead to an increase in text and sex scenes for Saefia in the next updates (see the topics below and above).
Additionally, there’s a little idea flashing through my mind… Maybe you could catch Saefia and Adrian in the act. After that, the MC is (understandably) hurt and wants nothing to do with Saefia for a while. In the meantime, Saefia realizes, that her relationship with the MC is the only “real” one she ever had and the only one that went beyond a one-night stand, so she comes crawling back to the MC…
This could become a very impact-full moment in the development of Saefia, but I’m also aware, that my writing skills may not be sufficient to pull that off… This could probably lead to even more people disliking this already questionable LI…
The next solution to avoid NTR I like to call the Eternum approach: Here, the male sidekick is lusting after a girl, the MC (and to an extent the player) have no interest in. In the case of my game, this will be the character, who is now just called “Time Warden”. For reasons, that are probably obvious by now, she will never be a full LI and not be plowed by the MC, while remaining an important character story-wise, with whom paths will cross soon.
Also Adrian will never be able to score with her for several reasons. Also, it could become a running gag, that Adrian is the only one too dumb to realize, he’s trying to hit on his own goddaughter… Also, Lisaeria could be another candidate for this...
Until now, I’ve only talked about mitigating the downsides of having Adrian around, but one reason to keep him around is, that you have an easily available candidate for possible MMF threesomes later in the game. These will be, of course, optional/avoidable/with the MC’s consent.
Initially, pictures pop into my mind of the two friends spit roasting Sarlé or double penetrating Sabrina. Some more complex scenes could be with Zoela, who gives both of them a handjob at the same time and whoever cums last will be ridden by the little mistress, while the other has to watch. Also, Minerva is planned to be a “the more the merrier” kind of person. (This is just a brainstorming and not a fixed road map)
Also, I could make tension-filled storylines with the MC and Adrian "fighting" over the LIs and finally starting to hate each other... but for the record, I have to admit, that I have no major plans on how to continue Adrian's story...
Instead of keeping Adrian around, we could also go the nuclear route and kill him (narrativly) off… According to my current plans, the end of V0.8 will have a major battle and it would be easy to severely maim Adrian at this point, so he basically spends the rest of the game in a hospital on Vesella.
Additionally, this could fuel a “survivors-guilt-plot” for Lin, who wants to make sure nobody dies again under her command…
So all in all we have the following options:
If you’re reading this, you probably have a poll somewhere on your screen, where you can voice your opinion on the future of the game with a single click. Additionally, I’m also hoping to see some rather fleshed-out comments from you, since this is a very difficult topic…
- Free use / sharing
- NTR based on affection points
- Girls reject Adrian a priori
- Girls reject Adrian (with a Saefia upsi…)
- Adrian focuses on side character(s)
- Kill’m off!
And before you ask, almost all side quests in V0.7 are written as if Annica and Adrian aren’t yet on the ship.
I find the minimap mostly fine because i use it to click on events. I never navigate without it.
I didn't know that they were shower scene in the game so that may be the reason why you haven't seen feedback on it.
If our only option is to keep him around to inevitably have him fucking someone or to kill him off, then I'm all for killing him off. If there's an option to keep him around without him fucking anyone, then I'd be interested to see what he can bring to the story.
Doesn't matter what realizations she comes to, the second she starts fooling around with other men, she's not longer a LI in my opinion. The fact that she's a slut ready to fuck anything with a pulse and that she's already fucking around with others in the showers, and who know where else, is already worrying enough.
As a major incest fan, this is kind of disappointing to hear...
Spent a bit of time going through the shower scenes to make sure I got them all. The scenes are good but it's pretty easy to forget they exist once you've gone though them and apparently pretty easy to miss them entirely. It's been a while since I went through them, but I seem to remember the scenes changing as your relationships with the LI's develop, which is a nice touch.
I'm not at all against a rework for Pirlia to soften the femdom a bit but, unless you're planning a lot of content for her soon, you may not want to dedicate too much time reworking her all at once. Maybe work on her a little at a time, maybe one of two scenes per update, until intend to focus on her in an update. She may be my least favorite LI at the moment but that doesn't mean I've completely written her off yet. I'm interested in seeing how a rework might change her. I don't imagine she'll ever be my favorite so long as femdom remains her main focus but she could be made more bearable.
I'm not exactly a programmer so I'm not entirely sure how it all works but, I imagine adding the gallery sooner and updating it as you go will be less of a chore than adding it later when you have even more scenes to add to it.
While I'm interested in the story, I'm personally more interested in developing the relationships with the LI's. Nothing at all wrong with doing both at the same time though.
I think I am clear about your vote on the poll. Not very different from mine.
I think the same, there is a saying in my land that says: "Una y no más Santo Tomás" (one and no more Saint Tomás). There is also a song that makes it clear:
I've got to agree with that. If LI's are fooling around, I'd rather the MC be involved too, otherwise I'd rather it not happen at all.
How to out yourself as a non-harem dev 101.Major Devlog 5 (Read post before answering poll!)
Preview
For a change, we are starting with the previews today. First, here is the usual pie chart detailing the line count of each LI:
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I have to admit, this time around I suffered a little bit from a lack of motivation and inspiration. On one hand, this means, I’m a little bit behind in schedule and haven’t done much regarding renders or animations… On the other hand, the distribution is a little bit uneven…
As you can see, Sarlé will have a rather large quest line, followed by a major Lin event. But Ladira, Rachel, Sabrina, and Pirlia are a little bit on the low side… If you have good ideas for these four, I’m all ears. Additionally, we will talk about Pirlia later…
Similar to the last updates, this one here will again feature a longer linear part, which will continue directly after the last cliffhanger. After that, it will be a normal “on-the-ship” update with mostly side quest content.
It the moment, about 15% of all the renders and animations for the next release are already done. I guess I will have the next update ready somewhere in December…
NTR
To be honest, I somewhat imagined more interaction below these posts, but I’m certain this topic will stir up some engagement…
As you can probably refer from the last cliffhanger and the uncharacteristically large spike in Annica's lines, she’s going to join the ship and finally become a full LI. But the problem is, that she comes with baggage… her brother… Sadly, I have already characterized Adrian as someone who wouldn’t just idly stand by as the MC continues to build his harem. Therefore a little discussion about NTR is needed:
I once read a take on NTR stating, that they like having the possibility of NTR in a game because it gives the game some kind of tension and the risk of failure. As I’ve explained before, I want to make the game 100%-able in one run and as long as you don’t ignore fourth-wall-breaking warnings, you will get to see basically everything the game has to over sooner or later… This means, there will probably be no possibility to permanently screw up and lose a girl.
But there could be the chance to get NTR-ed, which is still a source of tension… But there’s another problem with this approach: The metric to determine whether or not a girl will cheat on you, is most certainly going to be the affection point system. But since Funkelregen is a free-roam / sandbox game, I will most certainly punish people for simply doing events in the “wrong” order.
But I could also go even further: Maybe the MC and Adrian come to an agreement, which allows them both to fuck all the LIs without major problems. This “free-use” scenario is a possibility, but probably the worst… for once it’s the narrative least engaging one and goes against most player expectations/preferences. Also, many of the LIs shouldn’t play along with this. For example, Rachel is already making wedding and retirement plans with the MC…
Ok… now to more realistic possibilities, that will not make 90%+ of my community implode…
First, there’s the usual AVN tradition, where whenever another male approaches a LI, she (instantly) refuses in favor of the MC. Of course, this could also work in my game… but only with one big problem… or rather a 114 cm tall problem…
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I’m pretty sure everybody here can guess, that leaving Saefia and Adrian in the same room alone for more than 5 minutes could result in NTR. At the moment the relationship between Saefia and the MC isn’t deep enough for Saefia to be (fully) faithful to the MC. In other words, I will have to deepen the relationship between the two in the next few updates. This will lead to an increase in text and sex scenes for Saefia in the next updates (see the topics below and above).
Additionally, there’s a little idea flashing through my mind… Maybe you could catch Saefia and Adrian in the act. After that, the MC is (understandably) hurt and wants nothing to do with Saefia for a while. In the meantime, Saefia realizes, that her relationship with the MC is the only “real” one she ever had and the only one that went beyond a one-night stand, so she comes crawling back to the MC…
This could become a very impact-full moment in the development of Saefia, but I’m also aware, that my writing skills may not be sufficient to pull that off… This could probably lead to even more people disliking this already questionable LI…
The next solution to avoid NTR I like to call the Eternum approach: Here, the male sidekick is lusting after a girl, the MC (and to an extent the player) have no interest in. In the case of my game, this will be the character, who is now just called “Time Warden”. For reasons, that are probably obvious by now, she will never be a full LI and not be plowed by the MC, while remaining an important character story-wise, with whom paths will cross soon.
Also Adrian will never be able to score with her for several reasons. Also, it could become a running gag, that Adrian is the only one too dumb to realize, he’s trying to hit on his own goddaughter… Also, Lisaeria could be another candidate for this...
Until now, I’ve only talked about mitigating the downsides of having Adrian around, but one reason to keep him around is, that you have an easily available candidate for possible MMF threesomes later in the game. These will be, of course, optional/avoidable/with the MC’s consent.
Initially, pictures pop into my mind of the two friends spit roasting Sarlé or double penetrating Sabrina. Some more complex scenes could be with Zoela, who gives both of them a handjob at the same time and whoever cums last will be ridden by the little mistress, while the other has to watch. Also, Minerva is planned to be a “the more the merrier” kind of person. (This is just a brainstorming and not a fixed road map)
Also, I could make tension-filled storylines with the MC and Adrian "fighting" over the LIs and finally starting to hate each other... but for the record, I have to admit, that I have no major plans on how to continue Adrian's story...
Instead of keeping Adrian around, we could also go the nuclear route and kill him (narrativly) off… According to my current plans, the end of V0.8 will have a major battle and it would be easy to severely maim Adrian at this point, so he basically spends the rest of the game in a hospital on Vesella.
Additionally, this could fuel a “survivors-guilt-plot” for Lin, who wants to make sure nobody dies again under her command…
So all in all we have the following options:
If you’re reading this, you probably have a poll somewhere on your screen, where you can voice your opinion on the future of the game with a single click. Additionally, I’m also hoping to see some rather fleshed-out comments from you, since this is a very difficult topic…
- Free use / sharing
- NTR based on affection points
- Girls reject Adrian a priori
- Girls reject Adrian (with a Saefia upsi…)
- Adrian focuses on side character(s)
- Kill’m off!
And before you ask, almost all side quests in V0.7 are written as if Annica and Adrian aren’t yet on the ship.
Sex Scenes
Hi, my name is Janamus, I’m German and I’m surprisingly good at math and statistics, so one day I woke up and made a list of how many sex scenes each girl has. The following diagram counts how many (sexual) animations each girl has:
First I guess nobody is surprised, that Annica has the last place for obvious reasons…
But the second last place on the other side… Let’s be blunt: It’s more or less a mistake from the author’s side when the most slutty LI has the fewest sex scenes… As I’ve mentioned in some devlog, I want the sex scenes to feel at least somewhat earned, and since Saefia’s attitude is something like “I’m bored, let’s fuck!” I probably was a bit too cautious with rushing her sexual relationship… To correct that, Saefia is the first one to be granted a sex scene in V0.7, which will catapult her in front of Sabrina.
Speaking of which… Sabrina is also very low on scenes… at least she got her first real one this update… The problem with Sabrina is of course, that she herself despises the sight of her lower body. Although she’s one of my personal favorites, I took me far too long to find a workaround for that… But at least by now, I have a plan for the next scenes starring Sabrina…
The last LI I want to specifically talk about is Zoela… the second of the uncharacteristically celibate Illabs… The big problem with Zoela up to now was, that she basically had the monopoly on main quests. Although Zoela has 17% of all LI’s lines, most of that was spent on developing the main quests and not on the relationship between her and the MC. I think, the only event, whose only purpose was to deepen the romantic relationship between her and the MC, was the drinking event with her and the MC back in V0.1.
The only reason she’s not on Saefia or Sabrina’s level is, that her own scene has 6 individual animations as well as a few teasing scenes spread throughout the remaining game. I hope the two teasing events in the last update kept you well entertained…
I don’t have much to say about the other LIs or rather I don’t see a need to change/address something.
But to be more general: The time of the sex scare early game with only 2 animations per scene is over by now. Therefore I want to focus on fewer, but longer (and maybe better) scenes. I’m aiming for about 3 scenes per update (i.e. one per beta).
This means it will become way less likely to find 4 to 5 scenes per update like in the last 2 updates. Therefore the next update is planned to only have 3 scenes, which will consist of 5, 5, and 4 animations each with respective updates to the showers.
Also, I have by now gotten a few people pointing out my quite slow sexual progress and the fact, that until now, no penetrative sex with a main line LI has happened. Well… that’s going to change next update… twofold…
Main Quest Update
When we meet up again for the next big devlog, the texts for V0.8 will most certainly already been written, so I have to talk about this now:
At the moment the main quests are a little bit one-dimensional. Basically for the last updates (V0.5, V0.6, V0.7) the fundamental gameplay loop concerning the main quest is as follows: Talk with Funkelregen, fly to a certain relevant position, experience a long linear section, and repeat.
This is mostly due to the fact, that we are in the middle of two plot strains. The first “chapter” of the game (if you want to call it that) is about “something is fishy on the ship”, which pretty much ended in V0.4, and now I’m in the middle of building up to the “something is fishy in the galaxy” part – hence the little bit of a drought…
To over-correct this, I’m planning to make V0.8 basically a “main story only” update. This means I will focus on continuing the main story with little to no regard for LI’s side storylines. The only exception is probably going to be Sabrina, whose next major story segment needs to happen in the main story segment of V0.8. I hope you got her affection to the appropriate level by then…
Contrary to the other main quest update (V0.4) V0.8 will not be just a big blob of linear storytelling with maybe a limited free-roam section. Instead, much of the storylines will work within the existing ship-bound free roam as well as some zick-zacking through the galaxy. At the very end of this update there will also be a big battle in which Adrian could meet his maker…
The text distribution for V0.8 will therefore most certainly look very distorted, since I will only adhere to the needs of the story and will not even try to generate an even distribution. This will also be exacerbated by the fact, that half the side character cast will make (major) appearances in V0.8.
One drawback of this main quest update is, that my current draft only features a single sex scene and it’s even with a side character, although you will be allowed to go all bases… When I have time/budget to spare, I’ll maybe make a scene with Sarlé, Rachel, or Ladira, since their next scenes won’t require much built up…
If you’re firmly against a main story update, V0.8 could theoretically become an event like most others: A little bit more main story than usual with a bunch of side quests. The drafted story of V0.8 would be split in the middle and you would have the usual 3 scenes per update.
Additionally, if we’re going to split the main story, you will have to pick another option for our NTR/Adrian problem rather than killing him off. I can’t pretend for 3 updates, that he doesn’t exist.
Minigame / Features
Often minigames or similar things are often disliked in AVN. But concerning the minigame from V0.5.1 I got no comments until now. This means, that there were no game-breaking bugs and no one was so offended, that they felt the need to write a (negative) comment.
Often the criticism of minigames in an AVN is, that they destroy the flow of the game and add nothing to the game/experience. The space combat, on the other hand, skips itself after 3 failures and it serves a narrative purpose: It demonstrates the universe's power scaling and Funkelregen’s claims of being the most powerful/advanced spaceship in the current galaxy.
Furthermore, another space combat is planned at the end of V0.7. I’m not sure, if I will include it in the third beta already or if I wait for the full release… Anyway, I hope you will like this one as well...
As I’ve already mentioned in another devlog, I want to give myself a programming challenge each update – something where I don’t have to think about what to do, but about how to do something. This usually results in a new feature for you or something like that. For V0.6 and V0.7 these features are their respective space combats.
At the moment, I’m not sure what this challenge is going to be in V0.8. One possible feature, that gets requested more often lately is a gallery and by now you can easily justify the need for one – just look above…
But as I’ve mentioned some other time, I really enjoy the idea of justifying a gallery as an in-universe manifestation of the MC’s supernatural abilities. But the plan is to grant him his first batch of power-ups at the end of V0.8, so they will be playable in version V0.9.
Additionally, I’ve got questions for every single affection threshold in V0.5. Therefore I also wanted to rush the main story to a point, where I can introduce a system to right possible “fuck-ups” through some “wibbly wobbly, timey wimey“-stuff. This system is also planned for V0.9.
Reworks / Pirlia
At the moment, I have finally cleared my backlog of crappy animations from V0.1 and V0.2. From my perspective, there are no animations/scenes, where I could achieve a significant improvement in animation quality. If you think there’s another section of the game, that is needed for a rework, I’m all ears.
As you could have guessed correctly, Pirlia is still on top of the list of the most disliked LI:
For starters, Pirlia is of course disliked by some due to her femdom content. It’s a shame that this is not something all can enjoy, but that’s a totally legitimate reason to dislike her. But I have to admit, that her specific take on femdom is rather one-dimensional: Basically all three of her scenes consisted of demonstrating her physical might and pressing her partner/victim into her crotch only she’s satisfied. In the future, I will try to go on a more “sophisticated” approach with her…
One other criticism I got was, that they simply dislike Pirlia’s character. And I can somewhat understand where they are coming from… By now I can see, that there are 3 or 4 instances, where she’s (unnecessarily) mean and there are little to no redeeming characteristics as long as you are not into big dominant women. Therefore I am tempted to rework a few of her older events to make her more appealing in terms of character.
In addition to that, Pirlia is also the most underdeveloped LI in the game - except Anni of course… She has the least amount of lines, only closely followed by Ladira, but that’s a story for another time…
When I look at the dissatisfaction with Pirlia, I sometimes compare her to Lin. There’s no way denying it, that Lin is a very unlikable character at the beginning of the game. If I were to conduct a poll like the above in the aftermath of V0.1 or V0.2, I’m pretty sure Lin would have beaten Pirlia without a struggle… in fact, one of the very first messages I ever got was from someone not liking Lin…
But I have to be a little bit proud of myself after I was able to make her way more likable and now she’s the second least disliked LI only after dear sweet little Rachel. Maybe I will be able to salvage Pirlia in a similar manner if I focus a bit more on her… there has already been a crack in her tough persona… maybe she will be more vulnerable towards the MC and will open up more…
But of course, there will be some of you who think Pirlia (at her current status) is unsalvageable and don’t want to force themselves through the game until she might become better… Therefore, I wanted to ask if I should spend my energy/time on reworking some weak/bad events with her in the early game or if should I focus on further developing her character.
Somehow related to this is my future proposal for reworks: Back in the winter of 2022, when I barely knew what I was doing, I of course made some mistakes… The by far most long-lasting of these is the gym. Its lighting is just horrible… Since many events this update take place in the gym, you may have even noticed, that I had to do some ad hoc lighting changes, resulting in random changes of brightness between camera movements…
Therefore I have the idea of reworking all the visuals for all the scenes happening in the gym. This of course will take a lot of time, so I will probably spread the workload over 3 updates or so…
Additionally, 90% or so of all events in the gym center around Pirlia, so this could be an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone… So if you have any suggestions for the gym or Pirlia in general, I’m all ears...
Minimap Readability
I have a question for all the new players (or the ones with a good memory) regarding the minimap: Were you able to understand the minimap immediately?
The linear prologue shows you around a bit, but it doesn’t give you full overview and the map on the other side, doesn’t directly tell you what each room’s purpose is, and yet the quest log assumes you know all the rooms’ names.
Therefore I wanted to ask you if you got lost on the map. In the earliest stages of the game, I thought about adding tooltips to each element of the map displaying the room’s name, but this quickly caused visual overload and reduced readability… Maybe there’s some other way like inert text, that displays the name of the room…
Additionally, there’s no indicator in which room the MC currently is. Therefore some sort of indicator could be helpful…
Showers
Except for my editor sometimes, I have gotten little to no feedback for the showers. By now they start feeling a little bit like a chore to me – something that I think I have to do, but with little to no idea, if it’s even necessary/beneficial…
Therefore I want to ask directly: Do you often use the showers? Are you satisfied with its randomized manner? Do you think it’s annoying, that you can’t decide which girl you get and what scene you will get? Do you think it’s necessary to expand this “soft gallery”?
Hair
As you’ve probably seen, the girls’ hairstyles almost never change – the only exceptions are Sarlé, Rachel, and Lin in like a handful of cases. This is mostly because my semi-face blind ass would get a seizure when the girls randomly change hairstyles and would need a few extra seconds to recognize them. Additionally, since this is a free-roam AVN, changing hairstyles (permanently) could lead to continuity errors or to (unnecessary) work for me.
But one character where changing hairstyles could be useful is Lin. Her usual high ponytail fits her usual bossy character quite well, but maybe something else could be fitting better, whenever she shows her submissive side… I’m thinking about the louse hair, she has during her sick day for example…
Keywords
Uff… I’m pretty sure this here has to be the longest devlog, I’ve ever written and there are also some heavy topics, I need your perspective on… So, here are the keywords, i.e. the points for which I need your input the most:
I'm looking forward to reading your comments and of course, you are also allowed to write about anything else you want.
- The NTR/Adrian problematic
- V0.8: Normal events ↔ Main story focus
- Gallery: Now ↔ Later
- Other requested features
- Scenes/Events in need of a rework
- Improving Pirlia (Rework ↔ Further development)
- Minimap readability
- Thoughts on the showers
- Changing hairstyles (Especially Lin)
I don't usually participate in talking about things. I just vote on polls and that's it.
Soo.. is that gonna be the main reason why he'll remain? Seems like it, since that's the example you mentioned here. I don't even think that's an upside as well. Optional or not, that's not really something Harem fans would like. If this was supposed to be a Harem game anyway..
