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Looking back at some of the links posted above:
I have no clue why you MasterXY consider 0.49 to be the last build.
In the links above that you, of all people, provided, 0.27EX was posted after 0.49 on 2022.02.16, while 0.49 was posted on 2021.02.23.
0.27EX was posted here, as the OP, on 2022.02.21, 5 days after the itch post, so if anything, you shouldn't have disconsidered my F95 reference as being "not the last time we got an update".
0.27EX introduced NEW stuff, as far as I can tell from scouring other demos / versions of the game. The shit in 0.27EX was fucking new lol.
How 0.27EX came after 0.49 is beyond me so I won't go into it...I guess...
But really, this following whole shpeel of yours is a load of nonsense...
The rest of the post is pretty...interesting as well, because you're also saying the problem was a lack of transparency...which is also very interesting.
So really, I'm back to my original conclusion after sifting through the load of cherry-picked bollocks that was posted here in the meantime. All the FF dev team was bad at was judging their progress and possible release dates.
You're all really just disconsidering what actually is going on (like believing 0.49 to be the last meaningful content / demo / update / whatever we got) and cherry-picking inconveniences to have something to base your hate for FF on.
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I have no clue why you MasterXY consider 0.49 to be the last build.
In the links above that you, of all people, provided, 0.27EX was posted after 0.49 on 2022.02.16, while 0.49 was posted on 2021.02.23.
0.27EX was posted here, as the OP, on 2022.02.21, 5 days after the itch post, so if anything, you shouldn't have disconsidered my F95 reference as being "not the last time we got an update".
0.27EX introduced NEW stuff, as far as I can tell from scouring other demos / versions of the game. The shit in 0.27EX was fucking new lol.
How 0.27EX came after 0.49 is beyond me so I won't go into it...I guess...
But really, this following whole shpeel of yours is a load of nonsense...
...especially considering we know they're working on cutscenes, bugs and a few other things according to their progress reports. Just because you're not having the progress spoon-fed to you in daily releases doesn't mean it's not happening. We got a build in february last year and that's enough for now. Wtf do you expect them to release new builds every few months?? That would slow down their production by a ton.
The rest of the post is pretty...interesting as well, because you're also saying the problem was a lack of transparency...which is also very interesting.
So really, I'm back to my original conclusion after sifting through the load of cherry-picked bollocks that was posted here in the meantime. All the FF dev team was bad at was judging their progress and possible release dates.
You're all really just disconsidering what actually is going on (like believing 0.49 to be the last meaningful content / demo / update / whatever we got) and cherry-picking inconveniences to have something to base your hate for FF on.
my hate is based on non-transparency, lying and consistent excuse making.
No matter how hard you ride them, this is not something you can defend or deny
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Wait, why does this have abandoned tag?
I told you why I considered 0.49 to be the last new content we saw.
Before the 0.27EX update, the 0.27P update was considered the demo everyone should play and before the 0.27P update we had the 0.27F update I don't know if there were other versions before that, might of been but its too hard to search for more. Go look up some videos of it many still exist I went out of my way to find videos of both the 0.27P and the 0.27 release, you will notice, that 0.27 release was in fact, half a decade ago. Now I don't know what "scouring" you did, however here's some of the "scouring" I did.
Here's the 0.27P update from 2020 you will note that it does include the boss fight and all of the stuff in the demo and many of the cutscenes.
Here is the 0.27 update from 2018 you will note that it does include the boss fight, many of the same cutscenes, maps, and power ups and dialogue option stuff. Even back in 2018 all of these things existed. Such as talking with NPC's like the hacker bot at 23:10 and more.
So you may be asking, "what's different between 0.27P and 0.27EX", well lucky you I "scoured" this thread and found the 0.27EX patch notes, (and then later discovered you could just scrolldown from that linked blog post to see them, d'oh!) the tl;dr is some map changes, a couple new lore dump databases, more power ups (there were powerups in the game in earlier versions), tutorial has been moved, and some minor QoL. There is no mention of cutscenes added to this game (and based on the the videos I posted, those seem to have been added 3+ years ago) however I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say maybe a few cutscenes were added or changed since the 0.27P update, however they are not listed here.
I don't care enough to debate the semantics of whether this is a patch or not but the majority of this update was polishing, and PATCHING bugs, or making minor adjustments to the game. I don't know what you consider to be """gigantic""" amount of changes, maybe you beat the game on keyboard, realized there was controller functionality and that sparked a light inside your soul that made your whole day better as a result. Maybe you'd consider those "50" new power ups to be new content (even though you can only obtain 10 per new game but whatever), however I am sorry to tell you that the majority of those existed in previous versions, such as the 0.27P update, and the 0.49 update I even downloaded the 0.49 update just to prove it as you can see from screenshot below and were brought to the 0.27EX. Maybe you'd consider minor changes to the map as new content, however go watch those videos maybe some map changes, but definitely not many.
I've not said that, but like all your other posts you don't actually read anything I post. So I'll restate myself once again. The western hentai game dev patreon have a bad rep of milking patreon without actually producing any content. Now I'm not sure why you are arguing with me over "well ackchyually its been 1.5 years since a demo not 2.5, get wrecked hater" as if 1.5 years since a demo (that didn't add much) was a good thing. I'd like you to also keep in mind the time between the 0.49 update and the 0.27EX update was a full year, and in a full year that was all they had to show. And mind you, we can go even DEEPER into this argument if we wanted and argue the 0.49 update wasn't actually new content either, I think the end level got released in 0.44, however going any deeper into this argument would be stupid by this point and I'll elaborate more on that later because this is already getting long enough that if I make this paragraph any longer people will not read it.
All you've done is cherry pick my arguments to try and prove I'm some hater despite me saying multiple times I don't mind how much it gets delayed and based on the demos I've seen the game is easily worth the 10-20$ asking point. I'm just elaborating why people might have a problem with the dev. Release dates aren't the problem (for me at least), making multiple promises and not upholding them is because it does nothing to disprove people's notions that this is another dev milking their patreon.
Now that I'm done responding to your points let me make a few more clarifications on my position of things that didn't really fit into those other paragraphs well.
First off, game development and programming is an iterative process it goes through incremental changes as it's being worked on so stuff like 0.27 -> 27F -> 27P -> 27EX is considered normal and not a problem at all but that's not new content, thats just old content being patched and polished (again totally fine), I don't expect to receive brand spanking new content every month but 1.5-2.5 years since a demo after the game has been delayed multiple times is a bit much regardless of which year you think is the last time they released new content. If FF intends to keep the electric demo as their primary trial for the game they should probably commit to keep updating that if nothing else so people have visual confirmation progress is being made especially if you're trying to crowdfund with something like patreon, I don't think the current progress graphics are bad, but again western hentai game devs have bad rep for no progress being made and instead coming up with excuses or lies for why it's not happening, and while I do think FF is being worked on its hard to know to what extent when all we have is the word of someone who's broken previous promises and been deceptive (or at least felt deceptive) about their progress. I know there is value in holding some cards to your chest and not showing off whats being worked on in your game so it can be a surprise, but I imagine they plan to release a trial version of this game when it finishes anyway. If nothing else and I was in their shoes, I'd be preparing to release a demo/trial 2-4 weeks before the game launches to get hype going again and to show whats been worked on in the last 1.5-2.5 years.
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New informativo drop in the Discord server.
New demo for the fire level coming in the next 24 hours , will have full level content and will be updated in later week.
New demo for the fire level coming in the next 24 hours , will have full level content and will be updated in later week.
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1 year ago the game was about to be "fully released" on steam, and now here we are, releasing demos again...
Its what they said on discord posted below.
HentaiWriter [Story/Maps/Design] — Today at 14:40
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Just to get everyone hype, btw, new demo is dropping for the Fire Level in 24-ish hours!
It'll have ALMOST everything the full level will have for the full game, with a few things missing because of a bug present in a few cutscenes across the board that we already had done, but we need more time to fix the bugs with it.
So, we'll be updating the demo coming in 24 hours, in about a week, to get the bugfixes in and with 100% of cutscenes/events in for the first level of the game.
(The other levels are nearly complete also, but we don't exactly want to post a free, public demo up with all the levels in it, for obvious reasons.)
This upcoming demo though still has a LOT more content than any other prior update to the game, despite being only a single level; it'll replace the existing public demo, to give you an idea of that. (edited)
But why? The full game should be ready in a month or two based on the weekly progress updates no? They're on 378 of 388 with a pace of ~8 per month. Is a more polished demo meant to revive some hype before release or another stall? Why now instead of months ago? Ever since the delay last October, surely the fire level cutscenes could have all been implemented first since the story's all been written to pump out a demo months ago.
Basically, why spend dev time on putting together another demo after literal years of saying "no demo it will make the game come out later" for a game that's per public metrics going to be ready in a month or two? Unless there's some bottleneck they're working around this makes no sense unless it's a stall tactic.
- Apr 3, 2018
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Well one of my comments deleted so it's probably because I'm right. They don't know what to do, they screwed. People are mad so decided to release another demo for calm people down. Probably They're struggling with bugs and don't know They can finish in right time or not.
It seems that they want a more polished demo to serve as people's introduction to the game now that they have a more complete product to showcase. Which in my opinion is understandable. Time will tell.
- Apr 3, 2018
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New information on the Discord:
Update on the demo; **we're currently still planning for it to release today**, but it'll be later tonight more than likely.
Had some last minute issues *(it's been a long while since we've done a demo after all, getting back into putting one of those out)* and we want to make sure everything functions as intended.
**The next ping you get here'll be announcing the demo's release.**
Update on the demo; **we're currently still planning for it to release today**, but it'll be later tonight more than likely.
Had some last minute issues *(it's been a long while since we've done a demo after all, getting back into putting one of those out)* and we want to make sure everything functions as intended.
**The next ping you get here'll be announcing the demo's release.**
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it's looks like "half life 3 need more time and duke nukem forever development" formula.
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if they said that again, they will should go in history with "Todd Howard sweet little lies" from the world of +18 industries.
and it looks like while I was writing my last post they announced a new demo lol, at least the next 5 pages will be filled with something other than us debating if FF is actually satan or not. Now we can debate if the demo is the antichrist or not.
I don't think its a problem, its been a while since we've seen literally anything and the last 10-30 pages have been debating if any work was being done, and if their dev reports are to be believed it appears like the game will probably be ready in the next 1-2 months. Seems more like this'll actually be a trial so we can see what the game is suppose to look like in it's completed version rather than them demo-ing stuff.
12 hours more, i dont know if the time passes differently where he lives
