HentaiWriter

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Realistically speaking, how long do we have to wait to buy the game?

D4n0w4r beat me to it but I was about to point out that steam now lists the game as "coming soon" having dropped the "very". Not looking to make a fuss but would just like to have a clue if I can stop checking the wishlist every day
This is apparently an error on my end; I changed the release date to specifically November 30th last night, but, as I noted before about how Steam has about a zillion checks and balances, I accidentally checked a specific box that for whatever reason ends up removing the box that shows the date of release (and thus removing the link to the steam page entirely).

It's fixed now.

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Per Steam policies, releasing the game to other platforms without Steam having it first once you have a store page active = breach of policy/contract. Even if it's not 100% complete, I'm not gonna take that risk. This policy is listed on many sites. This is also part of why we stopped doing demos at a certain point (i.e. when we had the game linked together).



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They have this policy because for all they know, in the final stage of the game, you could have tons of objectionable material, which is why they do play all the way through and require that.

The endings weren't there, so since they don't know what we have planned for the end, they can't pass it. It's that simple.
 
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Sologor

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May I suggest relaxing a little bit? :LOL:

You quoted someone else but you managed to give me credit for this

There are hundreds of porn games on Steam now dear, most of which have a 2 second ending after an hour or two of gameplay, you boast a lot more game time and a lot more quality meaning you're either full of it or you got the one Valve rep who's incredibly anal about what they approve.

For fox sake HW, BREATH :ROFLMAO:


To be crystalline clear, I am not giving you shit but I do think you should sit back and take a couple weeks vacation from this forum. People who want to buy the game will still buy it and you will keep your sanity (you still have it, right?)

I can only wish you good luck until the game releases (and even better luck after that).
 
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Dexhellhound

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Weird, that's my bad: fixed it now.
And nah, cant relax, in perma work mode
you should at least try to relax how ever if possible i haven't tried but i might just recommend blocking the annoying troglodytes for being impatient and crapping over all you're hard work might help get rid of some stress
 
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Will the game go on itch and other platforms right after it get accepted on Steam or will there be a timed delay?
 

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guys somebody help, im press any key and nothing View attachment 2103442
This is just a joke screen; your game didn't actually crash.

Will the game go on itch and other platforms right after it get accepted on Steam or will there be a timed delay?
We'll likely have it on Itch about a month after Steam, just because we want to get a decently updated version on most other platforms; Steam auto-updates your game when it's updated by the developer, which no other platform has, so we want to get most of the major kinks/issues out before putting it on other platforms where the game is unlikely to be re-downloaded by others.

Tongue in cheek aside, why would you repeatedly over the course of 18 to 24 months either say things that you'd go back on or that just weren't that true in the first place that are related to the release date;
None of it was meant as a lie; it was genuine stuff we intended to do. Contrary to what some may expect of us, we're not AAA developers and we're not perfect; we make mistakes, and we were trying to figure out what would work best in terms of release date announcements, pressure on us, and a whole host of other things to get the game out as soon as possible without sacrificing quality when we made posts like that.

while also trying to keep answering everything? It started out fine but reading your text walls ended up looping back around from "honest and detailed" into "purposefully obtuse and lengthy to disencourage further discussion" long ago.
I'm not trying to discourage further discussion in general, I'm trying to discourage people asking the exact same questions that that specific person has already asked in previous posts, which both clutters up the thread and leads to confusion for people reading the thread.

If giving normal answers doesn't work, then you have to try giving over the top, extremely detailed answers. (Also, how can something be simultaneously obtuse and lengthy? If I've said something obtuse, can you let me know where so I can clarify it?)

Why even believe anything you say at any point, really?
To be honest, I ask that question of the people who complain about the game not coming out/about delays/etc.

Either;
- You believe what we're saying and trust that we're making honest mistakes, without any intent to mislead or such, and with intent to improve/learn from our mistakes
- You don't believe us, and never will again no matter what proof or explanations we give

If the former, then no reason to complain, especially if you've got no money invested in it (and if you do, you can just ask for a refund).
If the latter, then why continue to participate in the topic (or game) if nothing I can say would change your viewpoint?

This isn't even a complaint about the delays or about game price or anything, it's just... I don't know. Thousands and thousands of words for communicating delays and explaining things and all of that for what? Nothing.
If a small indie brand, company, business, or person doesn't explain the rationale behind their actions and clarify what they're doing different to prevent issues in the future, they're basically doomed. AAA companies can shake this off, but for smaller teams, people will gravitate towards the worst possible assumptions about them and will then cement those "assumptions" into "fact".

You can already see a bit of it from much earlier on in development, where people are still convinced that we've;
- reworked the entire engine from scratch at some point (we haven't)
- that we got in a car wreck and were in a tsunami both (neither happened, those are things that happened to other devs)
- that we somehow paid off Patreon and Graphtreon to backdate our release date on Patreon so that we could pay for fan-art to be produced before the game came out so that we could... something? I don't even get the reasoning/benefit behind that one.
- that I'm simultaneously terrible at programming (I am) but yet I programmed a botnet to sweep and adapt to all forum and webpage styles/coding setups to check for anytime our game is mentioned and then automatically create an account to spread goodwill about the game (????)

So yeah, not gonna just sit around and let people make up stuff and have it get turned into facts.

I know you've said it before that you won't set release dates for future games, but why this must be a continued thing you're still attempting for this one is beyond me.
Because if we suddenly just said "hey, we're not gonna do anymore release dates for FF", people would get angry and assume we're just going to "milk it" indefinitely (despite never having done this). That, and I literally can't release past the 30th because I'm not gonna accept a $3,000+ donation from anyone to pay rent, and I can't pay rent if we don't get money almost immediately after release.

but I think for most people what your words have lost is just credibility.
In all honesty, I'd much rather lose credibility over release date promises than losing credibility over actual game quality/polish/content.

I'm not saying it's a good thing to delay stuff, but I am saying that at the end of the day, far more of the playerbase would be upset with a game that's missing content, buggy, and so on, yet it asks for $20 of their hard-earned money. Cyberpunk's reception proved that.

But yeah, for future games, no more release dates. Ever.

The game undeniably looks extremely polished and nice.
Anyway. November 30th, 2022.
Absolutely.
 

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Damn, didn't know it'd be a month on itch. Guess I'll be waiting a while to buy it.
Yeah, it's mainly just not wanting to have 1000 people be like "wtf my game is missing <x thing here>" and then people from steam going "uhhh it's in my version" and then people going "wtf why do steam people get more content???" and so on

After a month, we should have anything remaining that's major done, with only polish/smaller things left to put in, so if a person doesn't update their game every week, it's not going to be a big amountof content they'd be missing out on.

To be clear, we do plan to keep doing updates for months after release for polish, any bugfixes, free DLC, more cutscene branches, etc. but you get what I mean I'm sure.
 

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So is there going to be a way to get the game at steam release when you live in a country where the game isn't sold on steam (cough, cough... Germany)? Particularly as someone who was subscribed to the patreon, but for the other peeps as well
 
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So is there going to be a way to get the game at steam release when you live in a country where the game isn't sold on steam (cough, cough... Germany)? Particularly as someone who was subscribed to the patreon, but for the other peeps as well
I'll have a specific selection you can pick on the "where do you want your keys from" questionnaire I'll hand out where you can note if you're from Germany, China, etc. and if that's the case, then you can opt to have me directly send you a copy of the game through a direct download link (as in, not linked to Steam).

Personally though, I'd just wait for the Steam version because it'll have a lot more polish/updates/content after that month's done, IMO. But we want to give people choice, so yeah, we'll have something like that on there.

And for the people who didn't back the Patreon, to be clear, we'll still have it open even post-game launch as an alternative place to "purchase" the game for people in those situations (we'll be closing down all tiers post-launch except the $20 tier so people can just get it and go and not stay subscribed).
 
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#64 October 21st progress report.png

Weekly Progress Report #64 for Future Fragments

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All links are for those 18+ of age and older only.

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Pretty much covered it in the image, but we also decided to move the re-submission date to November 1st, since Steam is having a sale through to the end of October and they're not likely gonna check anything during it anyways; gives us more time to get more stuff in to have a higher chance of acceptance.

Also, to be clear for those who missed it last time; we WILL be releasing the game on November 30th, 2022, no matter what state it's in. We are grinding like crazy to get it as close to completed as possible by then.
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It is likely however that some voicework won't be in at launch, as some of the voice actors will likely be away on holidays (Thanksgiving, for instance) and a few of the voice actors, including lead VAs, have become very busy, and combined with the large amount of work they've got left to do (which is entirely on me not getting them scripts earlier, aka my fault) it's unlikely 100% of the voicework will be done at release. Again, my fault, not theirs.

HOWEVER, it is extremely likely (but not guaranteed) that we'll be able to get 100% of voicework done before year's end.

So you can view the first month of release as sort of a "soft launch" before everything is totally in before year's end voice-wise.
 
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#65 October 28th progress report.png

Weekly Progress Report #65 for Future Fragments

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All links are for those 18+ of age and older only.

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Because I was vomiting my guts up and pretty shit from a strep throat, as well as Triangulate needing to rework the visuals on one of the enemies, we're NOW going to re-submit the game to Steam on November 5th. Just moving it by 4 days, but since the game is coming out on November 30th, that should still be more than enough time to get in.

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Again, at launch, due to factors both that are our fault and factors out of our control, probably 15-20% of total voicework for the game will not be in at launch. Additionally, probably 20-30 cutscenes (out of literally 1,000+ cutscenes/variants) likely won't be in.

All the NSFW scenes will be in at launch, though. HOWEVER, it is extremely likely (but not guaranteed) that we'll be able to get 100% of voicework and scenes in before year's end.

So you can view the first month or two of release as sort of a "soft launch" before everything is totally in before year's end voice-wise.

The game will be playable from beginning to end at launch with 95% of content in. All updates will be free, including DLC, bugfixes, polish, etc.
 
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