VN Ren'Py Completed Gargoyles, The beast and the Bitch [Alx & Khronos]

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Xypher

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sorry... no watersport in the game
I was hopping to put it in the expansion... but I canceled the expansions months ago. Seeing how slowly this one is turning out. I decided not to plan 3 games in advance anymore and work one project at the time... we'll see.
Aww... :(
 

nissan

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any news ?
No good news



Looks like I need a new tester :/
Life got in the way. This is something that I totally understand; taking on a side project is harder than you’d think… Here you are, comfortable in your routine thinking, Yeah I can easily add that to my schedule… but once you started the work, you realize that those few free hours you had where really valuable, suddenly your too tired for anything else and you regret that decision. This is why so many creator driven games are abandoned after 2 or 3 built.

I still have the emails of some of you that where interested in helping on that process, and I will shortly contacted a few of you. But if you think you got what it takes to does a thorough job on this, feel free to PM me

Alx
 
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Fuckit

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No good news



Looks like I need a new tester :/
Life got in the way. This is something that I totally understand; taking on a side project is harder than you’d think… Here you are, comfortable in your routine thinking, Yeah I can easily add that to my schedule… but once you started the work, you realize that those few free hours you had where really valuable, suddenly your too tired for anything else and you regret that decision. This is why so many creator driven games are abandoned after 2 or 3 built.

I still have the emails of some of you that where interested in helping on that process, and I will shortly contacted a few of you. But if you think you got what it takes to does a thorough job on this, feel free to PM me

Alx
But I did hired 2 new testers to replace the one that left, and I've already received part of their reports
So things are looking up! ^^
 

Fuckit

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really liked the concept of being the animal and getting the girl. is there other games like this one?
I was inspired by an AIF called "A Dog's Life" by Garry Plume, that was a short game in a package from a 2012 competition... and expect for a small ( rather bad ) Japanese game, I never saw anything else along those lines ( which always surprised me to be honest )

 

bigdick69

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I was inspired by an AIF called "A Dog's Life" by Garry Plume, that was a short game in a package from a 2012 competition... and expect for a small ( rather bad ) Japanese game, I never saw anything else along those lines ( which always surprised me to be honest )

thanks, i played it but i didn't like the game that much. too much words and aif is most of the time too complicated to play
 

Sonico

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really liked the concept of being the animal and getting the girl. is there other games like this one?
Good question, no idea, but i guess that searching for other games in the forums with the tag bestiality should deliver at least a few amidst lots of other stuff. Games parodying Zelda: Twilight Princess - where Link gets turned into a wolf - might make an even better bet, I would guess.

My thoughts at least, worth checking out, no?
 

Fuckit

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Can someone share?
you know... everything is already on my gallery.

beside, at the moment, Truth or Dare is only a cover
 
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Vicen

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Mistress: bark X8, wine, jump on her (floor scene), lick face, rip panties + etc, wine, push on couch, fuck.
Who's the bitch: wine + sleep until she passes out, fuck
Lover: bark X10, wine, push on couch, fuck
Owen's bitch: bark X8, wine, push on couch, assfuck, keep pulling
The bitch: Growl X4, Bark X10, jump on her (floor scene), lick face, rip panties + etc, wine, push on couch, fuck.
 
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nissan

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Basically, this is the only game i'm expecting to check out before i stop tracking all the indie pornog game scene as a whole. Because it's annoying. I beleve getting a gunshot in the abdomen and full recovery would take less time ....

Honestly, some of those games cost more than AAA "non porn" games if you count the money annually. And while AAA games have strict deadlines and people are pushed to the limit to deliver on time, say like Red Dead Redemption 2 comes out on 26th of Oct, i am expecting to see it by 26th of October.

But with the laid back indie game approach, it literally takes years for people to finish something. If we'd take the effort in this community and put into something serious like spaceflights it would literally take hundreds of thousands of years.

I assume i will get a storm of criticism, but get this. I had a podcast in plans for several months, it was just words and mumbling with my pal until one day i just told "get ready, we're doing it today". Guess what, the output had surpassed our most modest expectations. I don't know, i believe the lack of real organization and pressure makes people soft sometimes.

Still hoping to see this getting released before 2019 hits the calendar.
 

Ixiah

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At one point i was fantasizing about getting into an Stasis Chamber for 3 Years so i could play at least 2 of the bigger Porn Games completed....
That was 2015....
Still, unless people vote with their Money, nothing will change, i mean look at Library Story and their abysmal updates and despite this they still rake in almost 3k every Month!
So why should they change that ?
I realy wish someone with talent and energy would force these lazy Bums to actually compete with others.
 
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Fuckit

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Basically, this is the only game i'm expecting to check out before i stop tracking all the indie pornog game scene as a whole. Because it's annoying. I beleve getting a gunshot in the abdomen and full recovery would take less time ....

Honestly, some of those games cost more than AAA "non porn" games if you count the money annually. And while AAA games have strict deadlines and people are pushed to the limit to deliver on time, say like Red Dead Redemption 2 comes out on 26th of Oct, i am expecting to see it by 26th of October.

But with the laid back indie game approach, it literally takes years for people to finish something. If we'd take the effort in this community and put into something serious like spaceflights it would literally take hundreds of thousands of years.

I assume i will get a storm of criticism, but get this. I had a podcast in plans for several months, it was just words and mumbling with my pal until one day i just told "get ready, we're doing it today". Guess what, the output had surpassed our most modest expectations. I don't know, i believe the lack of real organization and pressure makes people soft sometimes.

Still hoping to see this getting released before 2019 hits the calendar.
I usually don’t answer to criticisms
1- I think it’s pointless
2- I am painfully aware how late my game is, and it is killing me.
But I just can’t let this one go… comparing me and other adult creator to AAA studios is ridiculous.

They have hundreds of employees working on their game ( I know, I use to work with these studios), we are 2. And 1 of us still have a day job in a really high-tech sector ( here’s a clue: it isn’t me :p ). Expecting the same level of “professionalism” is lunacy, and saying that we are asking prices close to the 70$-90$ the big studio games are asking for is laughable. Yes, if you keep paying months after month, but for most game out there, you could probably pay 5$ once in a while and get the full game. Beside. Even those AAA studios changes schedules all the time. AAA games get pushed back regularly.

Listen, we aren’t professional. In my opinion; most of adult game creators aren’t even indi game developers. We are amateurs, putting out here a product that no studio wants to be involved with, because no one else is doing it. We are lucky to have patrons that support us and allow us to make a living. But most of us barely make a living, let along being able to hire help. No, Library Story isn’t making 3K a month. As of today Laticia is making 1038$ a month… Who here could live out of 12k a year??? And that is not counting the fact that the number Patreon is putting on our pages is usually higher than reality, and of course they have yet to take their cut.

I do a little better around 18K a year. That isn’t much, but it was my choice to leave the studios environment to work at home, so I’m not complaining. I am grateful to be able to pay my rent doing my own projects. This is why I take time daily to interact with my followers, and why I am here addressing this issue.

Now, you guys know my situation. I don’t code. I tried to learn it again and again but my dyslexia made it impossible. Khronoss do the coding. I don’t pay Khronoss, he is giving me his time because he like my work and want it out here. He’s not my employee, he’s my partner… without him, there wouldn’t be any games... at all! He’s having a rough time at the moment. He came back briefly a few weeks back but he’s still pretty unreliable. The guy is in a really rough spot and depressed. I won’t push him. He got his job to put pres him: I’m there for him if he wants to talk. I offered him help, I offered him money. I offered to take the project of his hand, but he is still adamant that he want to finish the project by himself, I decided to respect his decision.

Is it frustrating? Yes it is… I’ve put a year and a half of work into this game. Hitting this wall without any idea when we’ll get over it is killing me. But I made my bed and until then; I’ll concentrate on projects I can release all by myself on a regular basis. In the end, my work free… all I’m asking for is the right to release it when I believe it’s ready.

Alx
 

Fuckit

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At one point i was fantasizing about getting into an Stasis Chamber for 3 Years so i could play at least 2 of the bigger Porn Games completed....
That was 2015....
Still, unless people vote with their Money, nothing will change, i mean look at Library Story and their abysmal updates and despite this they still rake in almost 3k every Month!
So why should they change that ?
I realy wish someone with talent and energy would force these lazy Bums to actually compete with others.
You are making the assumption that there is a planned ending for these games.

Most of these barely have a plan. Pepole have and Idea they like and start working without a clear idea of what the game is going to be. We are amateurs I tell you. Some of us are OK with releasing unfinished product. Some aren’t (My Patreon numbers world probably be a lot higher if I was :p ) But the point is, in these condition, it’s no wonder 2/3 of these games are never finished or abandoned. They never went further than the fist hinting of an idea before getting into it. It’s unfinished because there never was an ending to begin with.

Also, it’s pretty easy to be overwhelmed by the amount of work and just decided that it isn’t worth it. But considering the sheer amount of work that goes into a game, even an unfinished one, calling us "lazy" is definitely NOT the right insult to use: Amateurs, naïves, unorganized, messy, cufused, unconnected, unrealist, dumd, would all be better choices.

And from my experiences there are 2 kind of “us” out here. The ones that are doing a projects they love ( me, Akabur, Avenger, Wife Trainer… ) and the ones that came in to make easy money ( I won’t call out anyone. But they usually use render, they are poorly written, open ended, with a shit load of tiers and are always begging bigger creators for shout-outs ). But I suspect that it is a phase, and that the market will stabilize at some point. Someday, some of these creators will become solids enough to be called “indi” or “studios” ( it won't be me ).

We are still in the beginning of this industry.
 
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