VN Ren'Py Abandoned Gates Motel [v0.6] [P_S_Y_C_H_O]

[Vasy]

I was about to pass up on this game because of the trap tag, but I saw it was avoidable. So I'm trying it out, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think the dev/poster understands what it means to make an option 'avoidable.' That was way too much forcing trap content before your were FINALLY able turn it off. If the dev/whoever posted this game is going to label it as 'avoidable,' then that option needs to be available to you the player from the jump - as in before the game starts. Alex should then either not be in the car at all, or she should be a biological female with her own unique female version scenes from the moment you turn off trap content. This is a very poor way of making it optional. This isn't meant in any way as a hurtful comment to those who have said fetish, its just simply an honest critique from someone who doesn't.

Dude, relax. It's avoidable insomuch as your trans sister/family friend won't be sexually involved, not that her character will cease to fucking exist. The mere knowledge that one of the gals in the VN isn't to your kink specifications (regardless of the fact that you'll never have to interact with her in a sexual way) shouldn't be enough to turn you off a game entirely.

At any rate, it's similar to how most devs deal with avoidable content. I'd actually argue it's significantly more straightforward than some such mechanics you'll find in games here.

 

[Vrijgeest]

It is great to see transgenderism being portrayed. Strange how so many have a problem with it. Quite hurtful to transgenders.

 

[Alteni]

I was about to pass up on this game because of the trap tag, but I saw it was avoidable. So I'm trying it out, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think the dev/poster understands what it means to make an option 'avoidable.' That was way too much forcing trap content before your were FINALLY able turn it off. If the dev/whoever posted this game is going to label it as 'avoidable,' then that option needs to be available to you the player from the jump - as in before the game starts. Alex should then either not be in the car at all, or she should be a biological female with her own unique female version scenes from the moment you turn off trap content. This is a very poor way of making it optional. This isn't meant in any way as a hurtful comment to those who have said fetish, its just simply an honest critique from someone who doesn't.

...Alex should then either not be in the car at all, or she should be a biological female with her own unique female version scenes ????????????????

 

[83wulf]

I was about to pass up on this game because of the trap tag, but I saw it was avoidable. So I'm trying it out, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think the dev/poster understands what it means to make an option 'avoidable.' That was way too much forcing trap content before your were FINALLY able turn it off. If the dev/whoever posted this game is going to label it as 'avoidable,' then that option needs to be available to you the player from the jump - as in before the game starts. Alex should then either not be in the car at all, or she should be a biological female with her own unique female version scenes from the moment you turn off trap content. This is a very poor way of making it optional. This isn't meant in any way as a hurtful comment to those who have said fetish, its just simply an honest critique from someone who doesn't.

Avoidable means you are not forced into sexual situations with her. The fork in the road as to whether to pursue Alex is already there at a very early stage.
Alex is the MCs step-sibling, someone the MC has no problems with. Not bitchy and not with an unpleasant personality. Just nice. She has the potential to be an important friend and ally to the protagonist, even if she is not being pursued romantically.

Is your distaste for transsexuals pervasive enough to make you unable to even look at them, or carry a normal conversation with them? Come on, it is the 21st century!

Hypothetical example, just to explain, not intended as a low blow:
If you are not into interracial, it would still be unreasonable to demand being prompted in the beginning for the removal of all dark-skinned characters from a VN.

 

[alpharenji]

I hope reguler updates finally start to happen soon

 

[RedPillBlues]

I was about to pass up on this game because of the trap tag, but I saw it was avoidable. So I'm trying it out, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think the dev/poster understands what it means to make an option 'avoidable.' That was way too much forcing trap content before your were FINALLY able turn it off. If the dev/whoever posted this game is going to label it as 'avoidable,' then that option needs to be available to you the player from the jump - as in before the game starts. Alex should then either not be in the car at all, or she should be a biological female with her own unique female version scenes from the moment you turn off trap content. This is a very poor way of making it optional. This isn't meant in any way as a hurtful comment to those who have said fetish, its just simply an honest critique from someone who doesn't.

I disagree, the option doesn't have to be at the start of the game, it can also be where the start of the relationship happens with a character, like it does here. Would be nice if there was a female option added for her later on though.

 

[timepants]

I was about to pass up on this game because of the trap tag, but I saw it was avoidable. So I'm trying it out, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't think the dev/poster understands what it means to make an option 'avoidable.' That was way too much forcing trap content before your were FINALLY able turn it off. If the dev/whoever posted this game is going to label it as 'avoidable,' then that option needs to be available to you the player from the jump - as in before the game starts. Alex should then either not be in the car at all, or she should be a biological female with her own unique female version scenes from the moment you turn off trap content. This is a very poor way of making it optional. This isn't meant in any way as a hurtful comment to those who have said fetish, its just simply an honest critique from someone who doesn't.

Yeah, because it's not a totally unreasonable request to have the dev render every scene with alex twice as well as excise the character entirely from the story because it's just so horribly scarring that the character even exists in the first place to a point where you feel damaged by having seen them.

 

[Alteni]

Poor blah00 u got smashed !

 

[Sonico]

Thanks to support coming from some very good people, I am able to spend more time on this game. Also, a lot of time went for motel rooms and characters' new clothes. So, I don't think that next update will take 4 months. Maybe 2-3?

Oh, well, coming back in August/September, i guess.

 

[User_71462]

Dude, relax. It's avoidable insomuch as your trans sister/family friend won't be sexually involved, not that her character will cease to fucking exist. The mere knowledge that one of the gals in the VN isn't to your kink specifications (regardless of the fact that you'll never have to interact with her in a sexual way) shouldn't be enough to turn you off a game entirely.

At any rate, it's similar to how most devs deal with avoidable content. I'd actually argue it's significantly more straightforward than some such mechanics you'll find in games here.

It is great to see transgenderism being portrayed. Strange how so many have a problem with it. Quite hurtful to transgenders.

...Alex should then either not be in the car at all, or she should be a biological female with her own unique female version scenes ????????????????
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Avoidable means you are not forced into sexual situations with her. The fork in the road as to whether to pursue Alex is already there at a very early stage.
Alex is the MCs step-sibling, someone the MC has no problems with. Not bitchy and not with an unpleasant personality. Just nice. She has the potential to be an important friend and ally to the protagonist, even if she is not being pursued romantically.

Is your distaste for transsexuals pervasive enough to make you unable to even look at them, or carry a normal conversation with them? Come on, it is the 21st century!

Hypothetical example, just to explain, not intended as a low blow:
If you are not into interracial, it would still be unreasonable to demand being prompted in the beginning for the removal of all dark-skinned characters from a VN.

I disagree, the option doesn't have to be at the start of the game, it can also be where the start of the relationship happens with a character, like it does here. Would be nice if there was a female option added for her later on though.

Poor blah00 u got smashed !
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Yeah..........totally had nothing to do with the fact you get felt up by him twice and have him sleeping on your shoulder while grabbing your thigh and the MC discussing to himself about playing with his dick and staring at his hormone boobs. Hate to break it to you, but that's sexual content. Nice try guys. FYI, that's exactly what the avoidable tag means - that it doesn't exist in your own play-though. I understand that you all are here for that content, and I'm not bashing those of you that are; but your clearly letting your own biases stop you from seeing it from an outside perspective all while accusing me of doing the same thing. If its avoidable, its avoidable. Some of you seem to not understand the definition of the word. My suggestions were simple critiques to enable this game to fit its own profiling of 'avoidable.' Don't worry though, I'll go back to my straight corner like all of you want, sit in time out for your perceived trans bashing - that never actually happened, and this game will continue not to have the support of individuals who could of been persuaded to give this title a shot with slight tweaks to the game that made this particular content truly "avoidable." I would not of had an issue with Alex if the the MC didn't have to discuss his dick or get felt up by him. I find it truly unfathomable how all of you are total down with calling me out for not being cool with content that would literally get you thrown behind bars if you tried to pull it in the real world. You all sound like "How dare you not want that trans to feel you up!" What!?

Ps. Don't worry, you don't have to respond. I got the message loud and clear.

 

[RedPillBlues]

I understand that you all are here for that content, and I'm not bashing those of you that are; but your clearly letting your own biases stop you from seeing it from an outside perspective all while accusing me of doing the same thing.

Mate, I really dislike futas, at least 50% of it. In my opinion its no different then a dude, and considering that gay is the one of the only fetishes (you can add like scat and snuff to that) that I flat out can never enjoy, futa on male gets zero love from me. I just don't find it that big of deal in this game.

I'm sure if you had came out and instead said "Hey I feel that as it stands Futa isn't that avoidable, could you think about putting the sexual touching behind a dialogue trigger or something similar?" you would have got a much different reaction.

 

[User_71462]

Mate, I really dislike futas, at least 50% of it. In my opinion its no different then a dude, and considering that gay is the one of the only fetishes (you can add like scat and snuff to that) that I flat out can never enjoy, futa on male gets zero love from me. I just don't find it that big of deal in this game.

I'm sure if you had came out and instead said "Hey I feel that as it stands Futa isn't that avoidable, could you think about putting the sexual touching behind a dialogue trigger or something similar?" you would have got a much different reaction.

That's literally what I did bro. Read my previous comment.

 

[RedPillBlues]

That's literally what I did bro. Read my previous comment.

I was talking about originally, before said backlash.

 

[User_71462]

I was talking about originally, before said backlash.

So was I, and so your basically you telling me I wasn't sensitive enough? Look, I gave this game the full play-through, and thought out my words before, during, and after. What are you after? Honesty or buttering up? You don't have to worry about it anyway, I've already said I'm out of here. Straight guys aren't going to enjoy that content, and its going to turn a lot of them off. Devs don't have time for a giant runaround of words that sound pretty. They need the truth.

 

[RedPillBlues]

So basically you telling me I wasn't sensitive enough? Look, I gave this game the full play-through, and thought out my words before, during, and after. What are you after? Honesty or buttering up?

All I'm saying is that if you had worded it differently you might have got a different outcome. If you want to call that being buttering up, that's fine.

 

[User_71462]

All I'm saying is that if you had worded it differently you might have got a different outcome. If you want to call that being buttering up, that's fine.

I know, because that's what your asking me to do. And you guys act like I'm homophobic. Every gay/bi/lesbian I have ever known, has never had to have me be "careful" or "sensitive" of my words around them. I don't treat them like toddlers, I treat them like people.

 

[RedPillBlues]

I know, because that's what your asking me to do. And you guys act like I'm homophobic. Every gay/bi/lesbian I have ever known, has never had to have me be "careful" or "sensitive" of my words around them. I don't treat them like toddlers, I treat them like people.

Honestly you could only argue one of the people you quoted called you transphobic, no one called you homophobic, nor do I think anyone thinks you are. Even if they did so what? Just because someone says something doesn't make it true.

 

[User_71462]

Honestly you could only argue one of the people you quoted called you transphobic, no one called you homophobic, nor do I think anyone thinks you are. Even if they did so what? Just because someone says something doesn't make it true.

Your right, I let that one fuck get under my skin. I apologize. Though I could of sworn that it was more than one of them that were either insinuating or flat out saying as much. I have no intention of re-reading said comments though.

 

[P_S_Y_C_H_O]

I've been asked once even to put Alex content into a separate folder, so they won't have to download that stuff...
So, you're a second person having problem with it.
As other guys stated, it's avoidable enough to be called avoidable.
I can't keep in mind all the phobias people might have. I'd rather cover all fetishes.

 

[Alteni]

blah00 listen , u saw whats avoidable and about options the game got , if u dont like whats in this game, no one forcing u to play it , u cant force the developer do what u want , its his game , his story u like it or not , so if u dont like what the game giving u , its easy dont play it , dont ask for the impossible , theres alots of games u can play ; u dont like this game , found another one , whats a porn game ? , u play to let all ur fantasy comes true right ? good ! found ur game that give ur fantasy real , i am big pervert i like all stuff ....ready to fuck anything on my mind ....thats why i live my fantasy on those porn games , lets make it clear i dont offend you , i am just telling u the fact !