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But why would Sveta put up with it? And why would Natasha take the risk that she wouldn't tell on her? That doesn't make any sense. No matter what you claim for cultural reasons as to why Natasha would decide to blame her daughter, rather than her husband. It would never happen anyway, because you already set up Natasha, by allowing Sveta to discover her dirty secrets? Why would she do that to Sveta, when she knows that she can destroy her marriage so easily? Even if she's a horrible mother, surely she's not a complete idiot as well?
By the time I got to that point I just had either Tatiana fake it and I had bought my own apartment never getting to the point where she can kick me out. It's surprising on how much you can earn from modelling from the library computer/PC (1-4k) and busking (500-12k+). So within a month I can rent a place or move out. I also get the impression Natasha isn't the brightest and Anya follows her path. Hence why said Natasha sees Sveta as her last chance at redemption. If it was more realistic her mother would have had her watched and forced to go to church, as her personality would suit that scenario.

Also this is an old game, so it's had various other plots and events added so there's going to be inconsistences so applying real life logic to this is doomed to fail. I've given you some scenarios where this does happen and yes, people are that stupid much of modern marketing and even social media is based on that innate fact. However like many other games, books and movies some suspension of belief is needed. There's too many interactions in this game that are inconsistent or show lack of awareness of actions and if you can't let go of the fact this illogical situational awareness it's probably not for you. A great example of this is being able to date Lariska and Katja despite being an outcast.
 

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Stripclub auditions are lowkey hilarious.

"So you're a famous fashion model, top tier porn actress, and literally one of the best dancers in the world? Sorry, not good enough for my crappy strip joint."
 
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Yeah, but Natasha was a slut herself. So why would she behave that way. It's not explained how she suddenly turned full circle and became a completely different person. She knows exactly where Sveta is coming from. Even today people in the town still talk about how much of a slut she was, when she was younger, and it's not so surprising that Sveta is following in her footsteps. Every single woman in their family has a high sex drive. Natasha sleeps around, her sister Luda sleeps around and her other daughter Anya sleeps around. They all do it, and yet apparently Natasha has a total blind spot when it comes to Sveta doing the same thing.

If she herself never fucked around, if nobody else in the family fucked around, you could understand why she might behave that way towards only Sveta.

I don't think it's far fetched for certain mothers in Russia to condemn their daughters, rather than say the older men who have been having sex with them. I just think it's far fetched for Natasha, because unlike most of those women, she has personal experience of being that woman being condemned for having a high sex drive. She still is that person, and what makes it even more ludicrous is that Sveta is well aware of Natasha cheating on Vladimir herself, and Natasha knows that she knows. All she would need to do, is threaten to tell Vladimir and Natasha would forget all about throwing her out. I mean why wouldn't she do that, if her mother was being a total hypocrite?

How can Natasha threaten Sveta with anything, when she knows her own dirty secrets? If that comes out, her marriage would be over. So why would she ever take the risk?
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As I have already said, Natasha is one of those people that is do as I say not as a I do. My own dad was that way, born again christian, hard core conservative etc, yet he cheated on my mom, he wanted a divorce, he is the one that can't forgive my mom that the divorce ruined their lives because they fought over stuff for 6 years and went broke paying lawyers. So there are people like that in RL.

She wants more for her kids like most parents do. She knows what sleeping around costs her children, She still does it cause her rep is already bad and she can't change that but she can help her kids and when they fail to see her wisdom she gets angry. She has good intentions she just goes about it in a terrible way.

Luda does not sleep around, she has a live in boyfriend and that's it.

As I have said before she is a hypocrite, there are people like that in RL. There is people that partied and did drugs etc and then freak out if their kids do the same stuff they did when they was kids. Instead of talking to their kids and explaining things they just get mad and lecture their kids.

Sveta might learn about her mom cheating, at the start of the game she doesn't know that and you are also assuming Vlad doesn't already know. As someone else pointed out there is mothers that will choose their new husbands over their own children.
 

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But why would Sveta put up with it? And why would Natasha take the risk that she wouldn't tell on her? That doesn't make any sense. No matter what you claim for cultural reasons as to why Natasha would decide to blame her daughter, rather than her husband. It would never happen anyway, because you already set up Natasha, by allowing Sveta to discover her dirty secrets? Why would she do that to Sveta, when she knows that she can destroy her marriage so easily? Even if she's a horrible mother, surely she's not a complete idiot as well?
As I said in my previous post you don't start off knowing about mom cheating. Also you're assuming Vlad doesn't already know she cheats. Keep in mind she lost her first husband for cheating on him with Vlad and Vlad is well aware of this. It is never said in game but it is hinted at in several places. A big one is that mom gets pregnant with Kolka months after Sveta is born and Sveta's dad was still married to her mom at that time.

Also it should be a fairly big hint Vlad cheats on her considering he will sleep with Sveta, so not much of a chance of destroying a marriage by saying one of them is cheating when they both do and both know the other one cheats.

Finally I will point out that the mom is very old content and we have slowly been cleaning her up. One of the future changes is expanding on her giving up and forgiving Sveta for being a slut, especially if Sveta throws it back in her face. Since it obviously happened with Anya already. So in the future Sveta will get the same treatment. Mom will give up and turn her whole focus to Kolka and let Sveta stay, as long as she finishes school and when school is done with go to the Uni or get a job and start helping the family out or move out. Unless mom finds out she is having sex with vlad or kolka.
 
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Nutluck

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By the time I got to that point I just had either Tatiana fake it and I had bought my own apartment never getting to the point where she can kick me out. It's surprising on how much you can earn from modelling from the library computer/PC (1-4k) and busking (500-12k+). So within a month I can rent a place or move out. I also get the impression Natasha isn't the brightest and Anya follows her path. Hence why said Natasha sees Sveta as her last chance at redemption. If it was more realistic her mother would have had her watched and forced to go to church, as her personality would suit that scenario.

Also this is an old game, so it's had various other plots and events added so there's going to be inconsistences so applying real life logic to this is doomed to fail. I've given you some scenarios where this does happen and yes, people are that stupid much of modern marketing and even social media is based on that innate fact. However like many other games, books and movies some suspension of belief is needed. There's too many interactions in this game that are inconsistent or show lack of awareness of actions and if you can't let go of the fact this illogical situational awareness it's probably not for you. A great example of this is being able to date Lariska and Katja despite being an outcast.
We have slowly been trying to find and fix some of those inconsistencies, just like the recent revamp of the chats at school. Now the kids treat you different based on your social group and how much they personally like you, so there is not on average 15 different versions of chatting to them.

As far as dating someone while a outcast, keep in mind not all of the kids care as much about social standing, though they will be more mindful in public. Katja is being worked on now and you will likely see some changes with that. Lariska I think is just one of those that doesn't care.
 
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Nutluck

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Stripclub auditions are lowkey hilarious.

"So you're a famous fashion model, top tier porn actress, and literally one of the best dancers in the world? Sorry, not good enough for my crappy strip joint."
That job was made before the fame system was made and no one has gone back to work on it sense then, when someone does then fame will play a roll in getting the job and the pay.
 

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By the time I got to that point I just had either Tatiana fake it and I had bought my own apartment never getting to the point where she can kick me out. It's surprising on how much you can earn from modelling from the library computer/PC (1-4k) and busking (500-12k+). So within a month I can rent a place or move out. I also get t
To cover a few points

As I have already said, Natasha is one of those people that is do as I say not as a I do. My own dad was that way, born again christian, hard core conservative etc, yet he cheated on my mom, he wanted a divorce, he is the one that can't forgive my mom that the divorce ruined their lives because they fought over stuff for 6 years and went broke paying lawyers. So t
As I said in my previous post you don't start off knowing about mom cheating. Also you're assuming Vlad doesn't already know she cheats. Keep in mind she lost her first husband for cheating on him with Vlad and Vlad is well aware of this. It is never said in game but it is hinted at in several places. A big one is that mom gets pregnant with Kolka months after Sveta is born and Sveta's dad was still married to her mom at that time.

Also it should be a fairly big hint Vlad cheats on her considering he will sleep with Sveta, so not much of a chance of destroying a marriage by saying one of them is cheating when they both do and both know the other one cheats.

Finally I will point out that the mom is very old content and we have slowly been cleaning her up. One of the future changes is expanding on her giving up and forgiving Sveta for being a slut, especially if Sveta throws it back in her face. Since it obviously happened with Anya already. So in the future Sveta will get the same treatment. Mom will give up and turn her whole focus to Kolka and let Sveta stay, as long as she finishes school and when school is done with go to the Uni or get a job and start helping the family out or move out. Unless mom finds out she is having sex with vlad or kolka.
Vladimir may know about it. But it's obvious from Natasha's perspective that she believes differently. Otherwise why would she get so worried about Sveta revealing her secrets to Vladimir. As far as she's concerned he doesn't know and she wants to keep it that way. So maybe antagonising Sveta by telling her to leave the house, is not the best way to keep things that way?

But as you say, you'll be altering the mother daughter relationship eventually, so that's ok.
 
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why did my appearance go rly low it said i was super hot before now its like no one wants to look at you idk i guess i got pregnant but its still not visible
 

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Yeah, but Natasha was a slut herself. So why would she behave that way. It's not explained how she suddenly turned full circle and became a completely different person. She knows exactly where Sveta is coming from. Even today people in the town still talk about how much of a slut she was, when she was younger, and it's not so surprising that Sveta is following in her footsteps. Every single woman in their family has a high sex drive. Natasha sleeps around, her sister Luda sleeps around and her other daughter Anya sleeps around. They all do it, and yet apparently Natasha has a total blind spot when it comes to Sveta doing the same thing.

If she herself never fucked around, if nobody else in the family fucked around, you could understand why she might behave that way towards only Sveta.

I don't think it's far fetched for certain mothers in Russia to condemn their daughters, rather than say the older men who have been having sex with them. I just think it's far fetched for Natasha, because unlike most of those women, she has personal experience of being that woman being condemned for having a high sex drive. She still is that person, and what makes it even more ludicrous is that Sveta is well aware of Natasha cheating on Vladimir herself, and Natasha knows that she knows. All she would need to do, is threaten to tell Vladimir and Natasha would forget all about throwing her out. I mean why wouldn't she do that, if her mother was being a total hypocrite?

How can Natasha threaten Sveta with anything, when she knows her own dirty secrets? If that comes out, her marriage would be over. So why would she ever take the risk?
Natasha hasn't gone full circle, she's still sleeping around, slutting it up.
She doesn't want her daughters to end up like her and that is where the hypocrisy is born from. She is unable to change her nature but she will go to extreme lengths to control her daughters in order to try and make them in the image she sees as correct. Anya complains about this and tells Sveta that she got around the virgintiy tests by doing anal and she's only really off the hook now because she has a steady bf and because Sveta has become Natasha's focus.
As for whether Natasha's secrets would ruin her marriage, hard to say. Vlad might just side with Nat over Sveta or he might be aware of the adultry, after all Kolka was born only a year after Sveta and bio-dad didn't leave until after she was born so there's a good chance Vlad was already having an affair with Nat while she was still married, posibly being pregnant when they divorced.
"...your biological father left when you were a baby, your mother marrying your stepfather, Vladimir, shortly afterwards."

So you have a woman that had kids early was not well educated and has become obsessed with a clearly corrupt church trying to force her daughters to live a better life by not doing what she did. Her intentions are good but the way she handles them is bad.
For comparison there is this, in the US among poor households there is a belief that douching to clean the vagina is essential for vaginal health and that not doing it leads to infections and nasty smells. This is complete rubbish, all it does is remove the bateria that naturally keeps things healthy and not smelly leading to more risk of infection and smell. Yet millions of young girls are lead to believe htis and do it across the US.
Nat is not doing the correct thing logically or medically but she believes she is doing the right thing for her daughter.
 
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Natasha hasn't gone full circle, she's still sleeping around, slutting it up.
She doesn't want her daughters to end up like her and that is where the hypocrisy is born from. She is unable to change her nature but she will go to extreme lengths to control her daughters in order to try and make them in the image she sees as correct. Anya complains about this and tells Sveta that she got around the virgintiy tests by doing anal and she's only really off the hook now because she has a steady bf and because Sveta has become Natasha's focus.
As for whether Natasha's secrets would ruin her marriage, hard to say. Vlad might just side with Nat over Sveta or he might be aware of the adultry, after all Kolka was born only a year after Sveta and bio-dad didn't leave until after she was born so there's a good chance Vlad was already having an affair with Nat while she was still married, posibly being pregnant when they divorced.
"...your biological father left when you were a baby, your mother marrying your stepfather, Vladimir, shortly afterwards."

So you have a woman that had kids early was not well educated and has become obsessed with a clearly corrupt church trying to force her daughters to live a better life by not doing what she did. Her intentions are good but the way she handles them is bad.
For comparison there is this, in the US among poor households there is a belief that douching to clean the vagina is essential for vaginal health and that not doing it leads to infections and nasty smells. This is complete rubbish, all it does is remove the bateria that naturally keeps things healthy and not smelly leading to more risk of infection and smell. Yet millions of young girls are lead to believe htis and do it across the US.
Nat is not doing the correct thing logically or medically but she believes she is doing the right thing for her daughter.
I get all of that now. But what I don't get, is why does Natasha risk Sveta revealing her secrets to Vladimir? When the text makes it very clear, when Sveta reveals that she knows about her mother's affairs, that Natasha is very worried about the possibility of her telling Vladimir. I mean why would she risk antagonising Sveta by asking her to leave, and thus making it more likely that those fears would become a reality? She doesn't know what Vladimir suspects, and how he would feel about her cheating. In those circumstances, I just can't see her reacting in that way?

If when Sveta revealed that she knew, Natasha had acted like she wasn't that bothered, well in that case I could see her kicking Sveta out. But she was really bothered, so I just don't see it.
 

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Is it possible, and does anyone know how to swap pictures from the game sex scenes and such for videos, ive tried changing the names but that doesn´t work im guessing cause its not the same format.
 

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Is it possible, and does anyone know how to swap pictures from the game sex scenes and such for videos, ive tried changing the names but that doesn´t work im guessing cause its not the same format.
you would have to change the code that calls a .jpg to call for a .mp4
 
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Is it possible, and does anyone know how to swap pictures from the game sex scenes and such for videos, ive tried changing the names but that doesn´t work im guessing cause its not the same format.
You can try AVC (any video converter) changes most video formats and is free.
 

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You can try AVC (any video converter) changes most video formats and is free.
It isn't that, it is if you swap out a jpg for any video even if it is named the same the code is still calling for a jpg. So he would have to go into the game and change the code to call for a video instead of a image. So a fair bit of work that would have to be redone with every update
 

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It isn't that, it is if you swap out a jpg for any video even if it is named the same the code is still calling for a jpg. So he would have to go into the game and change the code to call for a video instead of a image. So a fair bit of work that would have to be redone with every update
I'll learn to read soon, was thinking they wanted to change vid's only.
 

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I get all of that now. But what I don't get, is why does Natasha risk Sveta revealing her secrets to Vladimir? When the text makes it very clear, when Sveta reveals that she knows about her mother's affairs, that Natasha is very worried about the possibility of her telling Vladimir. I mean why would she risk antagonising Sveta by asking her to leave, and thus making it more likely that those fears would become a reality? She doesn't know what Vladimir suspects, and how he would feel about her cheating. In those circumstances, I just can't see her reacting in that way?

If when Sveta revealed that she knew, Natasha had acted like she wasn't that bothered, well in that case I could see her kicking Sveta out. But she was really bothered, so I just don't see it.
I guess she's of the mind that once Sveta is thrown out that Vlad wouldn't believe her. After all it could just be a way to get back at Mom for kicking he out. Or maybe she doesn't think about it, the whole throwing Sveta out is very impulsive and hardly rational.
 

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I guess she's of the mind that once Sveta is thrown out that Vlad wouldn't believe her. After all it could just be a way to get back at Mom for kicking he out. Or maybe she doesn't think about it, the whole throwing Sveta out is very impulsive and hardly rational.
Seems to me, you don't know anymore than I do?

In any case, I don't want Sveta to get kicked out by Natasha. I'm playing the 'addedflavour' mod, so Sveta really needs to keep on good terms with her.
 
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