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xD ok now i wonder if there is a walkthrough, can anyone tell us wich choices are the one sthat matter? Or in general what kind of choices do what? Some give extra CGs but do they affect the plot? How many branches are there right now?
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I stopped her from going. Not sure if all of the following are necessary, but here's what I did when it came to my choices.
- Any choice that favored the MC's relationship with Mia (ie. peeking at her changing, standing up for her)
- Trained with the fleshlight as much as possible.
- Avoided any obvious cuck choices (ie. Jerking off to Jenna, imaging Mia with another guy)
- I also never made any choice that favored Riley. I blew her off whenever I got the chance.
- Didn't subscribe to Gianni's account (not sure if this is needed)
- Finally, drank the whole bottle at the club.
I don't think I missed anything.
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(I haven't done Riley's route yet, so take that into consideration.)
So, I just binged this yesterday after becoming aware of it and...
Once again, good writing has succeeded in making me feel bad for the cuck and despise the other characters. Really interested to see it is all going to come out in the end. Good or bad.
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Once again, good writing has succeeded in making me feel bad for the cuck and despise the other characters. Really interested to see it is all going to come out in the end. Good or bad.
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You need to have gotten your guts/manly points high via choosing the less submissive options, if you did it right then you can down the whole bottle at the club and get an alcohol indigestion which will make Mia decide to stay taking care of you instead of going to Desireland.
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Keep in mind Riley did warn him she would never snitch on Mia, it was MC who pressured her into "agreeing" to act as his spy. As Riley said, she considers Mia her best friend and MC as a friend whos only using her now that he needs her help.
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(Finished Riley's route by now.)
And you can't even say she's holding that much of a grudge against him because, by her own admission, she considers him to be a really nice guy and she clearly has some kind of weird, sadistic crush on him. Hell, even her father wishes she was with him instead of one of the 'bad decisions' she keeps opening her legs for.
And that's the main thing I get from Riley's character: she makes bad decisions. Everything from the stunt she pulled with her high school physics teacher to the never-ending parade of men she fucks. Just one bad decision after the next.
Her choosing to side with her 'best friend' over the MC is just another one of those bad decisions.
EDIT: Of course, this is all just my humble opinion.
You make it sound like she was backed into a corner but, as you can clearly tell from the way she is written, Riley isn't that weak. She didn't have to say yes. Hell, she says no to the MC and tells him to fuck off several times during the game, so we know she's capable of it. She only said yes because she wanted to manipulate the situation. Riley does what she wants, and lying to the MC is something she wants to do.
And that just makes what she did worse. A normal person would have just turned him down, but she took the opportunity to manipulate and lie to him just like Mia. Again, Riley is clearly tough. She could have told him to fuck off.
And you can't even say she's holding that much of a grudge against him because, by her own admission, she considers him to be a really nice guy and she clearly has some kind of weird, sadistic crush on him. Hell, even her father wishes she was with him instead of one of the 'bad decisions' she keeps opening her legs for.
And that's the main thing I get from Riley's character: she makes bad decisions. Everything from the stunt she pulled with her high school physics teacher to the never-ending parade of men she fucks. Just one bad decision after the next.
Her choosing to side with her 'best friend' over the MC is just another one of those bad decisions.
EDIT: Of course, this is all just my humble opinion.
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Man I hope there's a happy ending for the MC with Mia at the end of this game that doesn't involve her fucking other men. After this game I'm done with NTR games. I don't think NTR games are for me, with porn and doujins there's a level of disconnect to where I don't feel sad and I can enjoy the humiliation shit that gets me off, but with this where I make decisions it's too real.
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No one made it sound like anything, I merely stated the fact that MC pressured after she had already gave a concrete answer. The point I am making is its a double negative, she had already warned him she'd lie no matter what to cover for Mia if she had to, thus MC technically walked into the trap since she had already told him ahead of time what she would do and it was him who wanted to believe there was change of heart. The game plays strongly on MC's "obliviousness" coming from his own denial. He knows Riley isn't all that trustworthy, knows Mia is way too sus, but tries to believe what suits him better.(Finished Riley's route by now.)
You make it sound like she was backed into a corner but, as you can clearly tell from the way she is written, Riley isn't that weak. She didn't have to say yes. Hell, she says no to the MC and tells him to fuck off several times during the game, so we know she's capable of it. She only said yes because she wanted to manipulate the situation. Riley does what she wants, and lying to the MC is something she wants to do.
And that just makes what she did worse. A normal person would have just turned him down, but she took the opportunity to manipulate and lie to him just like Mia. Again, Riley is clearly tough. She could have told him to fuck off.
And you can't even say she's holding that much of a grudge against him because, by her own admission, she considers him to be a really nice guy and she clearly has some kind of weird, sadistic crush on him. Hell, even her father wishes she was with him instead of one of the 'bad decisions' she keeps opening her legs for.
And that's the main thing I get from Riley's character: she makes bad decisions. Everything from the stunt she pulled with her high school physics teacher to the never-ending parade of men she fucks. Just one bad decision after the next.
Her choosing to side with her 'best friend' over the MC is just another one of those bad decisions.
EDIT: Of course, this is all just my humble opinion.
I'd say the game is a whole bunch of people who do care for each other making bad decisions, not just Riley. MC behaves like a 14 year old CoD addict whos had his first gf so he really doesn't know much about how to deal with Mia (and who "succumbs to temptation" as well and cheats depending on the route - which given its a hentai game, I consider the route with most sex the canon unless the story or author defines the contrary). Mia relies on MC for emotional fulfillment but cant get sexual satisfaction from him so she two times because shes a size queen nympho and Riley as you explained has her own sort of twisted fetichist crush on MC so shes playing with the situation. Everyone is a fuck up here, n MC just walks straight off the bridge on nearly everything.
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While I generally don't disagree with most of your points some things need to be clarified.
But that's not what happened.
It was her decision to lie to him. No one forced her. She did it because she wanted to. And that's what makes her a bad person.
I really think you need to go read/watch that part of the story again because Riley was anything but pressured in that scene. If anything, she looked laid back and amused at his desperation. And that just makes it worse, considering that she already knew something was going on between Mia and Gianni at that point.
You obviously have a more generalized idea of what it means to 'pressure' someone, so I guess we will just have to disagree on this point.
Arbitrarily deciding that 'the route with the most sex' is canon is awfully convenient to your argument here. Especially considering that the route with the most sex is the one where the MC cheats on Mia, making him just as immoral as everyone else.
However, if you take all the routes into consideration (which makes more sense because the author did write them), you have to acknowledge that the MC isn't as bad as the other people in the story. Sure, there is a route where he cheats on Mia because he's thinking with his dick, but there is also a route where he is faithful and tries to make her happy.
On the other hand, there is no route where Mia doesn't cheat on him, there is no route where Riley doesn't amuse herself with his pain, and there is no route where Gianni isn't being a douche. Everyone in the story might be making bad decisions, but the MC is at least shown to be capable of trying to make better ones.
But agree to disagree, I guess.
When I said that Riley was walking trash in my original post, it was because she had chosen to deceive the MC of her own free will. When you said she was pressured into making that decision, it sounded like you were saying that Riley, the delicate flower that she is, was being forced to do something by the big bad MC.
But that's not what happened.
It was her decision to lie to him. No one forced her. She did it because she wanted to. And that's what makes her a bad person.
I really think you need to go read/watch that part of the story again because Riley was anything but pressured in that scene. If anything, she looked laid back and amused at his desperation. And that just makes it worse, considering that she already knew something was going on between Mia and Gianni at that point.
You obviously have a more generalized idea of what it means to 'pressure' someone, so I guess we will just have to disagree on this point.
Arbitrarily deciding that 'the route with the most sex' is canon is awfully convenient to your argument here. Especially considering that the route with the most sex is the one where the MC cheats on Mia, making him just as immoral as everyone else.However, if you take all the routes into consideration (which makes more sense because the author did write them), you have to acknowledge that the MC isn't as bad as the other people in the story. Sure, there is a route where he cheats on Mia because he's thinking with his dick, but there is also a route where he is faithful and tries to make her happy.
On the other hand, there is no route where Mia doesn't cheat on him, there is no route where Riley doesn't amuse herself with his pain, and there is no route where Gianni isn't being a douche. Everyone in the story might be making bad decisions, but the MC is at least shown to be capable of trying to make better ones.
But agree to disagree, I guess.
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Agreeing to disagree just for the sake of it is a golden mean fallacy, there is no reason to agree to disagree here, the definition of pressure is factual, not opinionated. No is no, he pressured, he walked into something she warned before hand. So no, I really don't need to reread the part i've already read multiple times.While I generally don't disagree with most of your points some things need to be clarified.
When I said that Riley was walking trash in my original post, it was because she had chosen to deceive the MC of her own free will. When you said she was pressured into making that decision, it sounded like you were saying that Riley, the delicate flower that she is, was being forced to do something by the big bad MC.
But that's not what happened.
It was her decision to lie to him. No one forced her. She did it because she wanted to. And that's what makes her a bad person.
I really think you need to go read/watch that part of the story again because Riley was anything but pressured in that scene. If anything, she looked laid back and amused at his desperation. And that just makes it worse, considering that she already knew something was going on between Mia and Gianni at that point.
You obviously have a more generalized idea of what it means to 'pressure' someone, so I guess we will just have to disagree on this point.
However, if you take all the routes into consideration (which makes more sense because the author did write them), you have to acknowledge that the MC isn't as bad as the other people in the story. Sure, there is a route where he cheats on Mia because he's thinking with his dick, but there is also a route where he is faithful and tries to make her happy.
On the other hand, there is no route where Mia doesn't cheat on him, there is no route where Riley doesn't amuse herself with his pain, and there is no route where Gianni isn't being a douche. Everyone in the story might be making bad decisions, but the MC is at least shown to be capable of trying to make better ones.
But agree to disagree, I guess.
Now that aside, what can be agreed to disagree is on morality since that part actually is subjective. I'd even say I don't particularly agree nor disagree with you here, Riley (and Mia) are manipulative and such. However, if Riley is bad or not was never a point I made, just that the MC fell into the trap by himself too easily.
There's no convenience in my PoV unlike what you wanna imply, its a H game, everyone is portrayed as a horndog and the objective of the thing is to get as much sex scenes as possible. I wrote that as a (note) for a reason, it was merely to point out how depending on interpretation one can also consider him to have similar faults. Here I would accept your agree to disagree because there is indeed no defined canon. In fact, if you wanna view yourself as right here then go ahead, view all routes as same level of canon so label MC as "less bad".
Now to what I actually meant: I never said MC is as "bad" a person as they or not, I said he commits as much bad decisions as they. Bad decisions=//=bad person, MC takes many dumb decisions but he is not doing so for sake of being amoral, he is just inept. In example, his fight with Mia over the party - not something that makes him a bad person, but the outcome being a fight is not something surprising, should of just showed up to the party if he didn't trust Gianni. Similar situations as this are present multiple times across the game where MC doesn't do something that would seem blatantly normal for someone in a relationship. Things like these are what make his decisions "bad" because the outcome will obviously have negative impact, but none of these means he is a vile person or anything. Ergo everyone here is making dumb decisions, just that MCs bad decisions are in a good part just dumb while Mia's and Riley's mainly fall into corrupt territory.
Tldr; just because I say everyone here is a fuck up, does not mean I am labeling them all as same kind of fuck up. I hope my actual stance is clear now since you seem to have misunderstood me quite a bit since it seems I was not clear enough.
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This nails the game, in my opinion. And it’s all these little flaws in the characters leading to things going further and further awry for our MC that makes the game so enjoyable for me. I can’t tell just where the bus is going to crash, but I know none of these people can be trusted to drive it safely. I’m just hoping for the most outstanding crash possible.
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The "casualness" to it certainly adds to the appeal imo, just being dumb juvenile peeps and gf just being slutty is a much more interesting car crash than it being blackmail #68169.
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- Sep 18, 2018
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i agree with you, but it seems like the author might actually try to get somewhat of a realistic take, riley for example seems to be genuinely sad about college, that and other lines of dialogue point towards a motive in the story which i think we can all agree is decision making, some characters make decisions that only work short term, but the story tends to question if that will work long term, riley and her decision to fight the teacher and how that affected her future in a significant way, at this point im just hoping for an ending where the mc gets out of the car, sees that the people in it arent worth it and moves on. not in the generic NTR way, but in a meaningfull one. cause the decisions that the other characters made dont really paint a birght future, specially riley and mia with her backstory.
the author made a good job developing the mc, now if only we can get a route where he develops in a possitive way. that would be the cherry on top.
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I personally dont care for it to end realistically, specially when we have IronMan with a few extra kilos as a character in there. I'd say writing is developing more so into MC accepting his own insecurities and fetishes. Although I wouldnt mind one of the endings being like what you say, author already confirmed theres going to be more than 1 ending based on choices taken.
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i think libido-kun is just deus ex machina for a "happy end" in case the author needs one, i like to think he is more of a metaphor and a joke. considering he is the one who gave you the phone with the only fans and he is the one to take it from you just before the confrontation.
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