Others Abandoned Glamour [v0.57] [Dark Silver]

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Yoli

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Krugger said:
It depends, it's not every female protagonist game that's bad, there are attractive games like GGGB, JONH, Goons Raid Her and Chloe18 (Chloe there is an exception, is a game that has a lot of sex scenes but the quality of the renders is bad and your gameplay, besides having a bit of grind). There are other games too, but I consider a lot of grind and very few scenes, AWAM, Fashion Business, Bright Past and among others like Anna Affection, The Office, that I don't consider playing much anymore because they're kind of boring, there are also others that I haven't mentioned so whatever.

and your solution to fix fem mc game is to turn it into male mc game?
Not exactly, but Kate's story has more Female NPC than Male NPC. So how could Kate enjoy having sex with all the girls? Yes, it is possible, it will depend on DS and his team. We saw in this last update Andrew getting a bj from the girls and almost having sex with Angelina (only 69); It's possible there's sex between them students, which I'm also looking forward to seeing.
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So, turning Kate's story into a Max story is no need, but it's boring if there are only lesbian scenes, got it? But also as you said and I agree, Max is not the ideal character, he looks like a silly boy to me, doesn't look very mature, so it might not look very nice or maybe it can fit well. So, it's a very disturbed opinion, some think Kate's content shouldn't have too much of Max, from what I played, I didn't think it was too bad, as it aroused a curiosity in Kate regarding Max's relationship with Lisa, but in general, I don't have much to say whether I thought it was good or bad, I also like to play BB, I like the girls' renders, but I feel that Max's path is not going to go very far, as Kate's path has more to come. The problem with all this is the time, DS and his team do monthly updates but with enough grind that if you removed the grind wouldn't last 10 minutes.
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Try Bright Past and Coming of age, two very good games with female protagonists.
 
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dwalsh said:
I'm really gonna try to get pass my mental block of playing female protagonists and try to play Kate's path over the weekend. Not sure but it almost seem like a bigger story being told from two perspectives when I read through all the reviews. To begin seeing it you need to play the two routes or you'll only get half the story, is my train of thought wrong in this?
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Give it a chance. Not all female protagonist games are bad. You are just playing an adult/porn game.
To begin seeing it you need to play the two routes or you'll only get half the story, is my train of thought wrong in this?
The routes are totally different and don't resemble each other. On Kate's route, you will find some parts of the villa and interact with Max and Lisa, Alice and Ann.

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i said that turning kate story into max story is bad idea. but if there is no max it does not mean kate story is lesbian path. she had sex with nick, principal, fodor, andy, neil and now oscar. real lesbian scenes were with alice, sister and karen, one way with sophie, veronica and ann. obviously not boring sex life. there is no need for max to "spice up" because he can't do that. max presence in kate story should be terminated after his cameo at massage class. he was one of logical choices: kate needed another man to practice beside nick. due to shyness no college boys were possible.
also there are so many male charachters in the game (whose development was neglected simply because ds forced max) that could make game less boring. some stories were initiated and never fully developed (paint delivery guy, strange neighbour, adam, mafia guys). so lots of f/m action options, plus future club, classmates. even max could be better used. but no, put kate in villa and have max with her. even sex scenes turned to be grinding. collection of virtual porn clips in same interior that you need to repeat many times to progress for some percentage. same as horrible grinding with julia and nick in the beginning.
i don't know did you get another pattern: to progress you need to get on time to events happening once, twice a week. if you are late you need to grind whole week to get another chance. and very often something come up to disturb you (e.g. if you need to come to karen class, just before class oscar, sophie, alice will make you late) so game is extended to next week. as you said: 10 mins update with no grinding. hour for whole game.
about games you mentioned sometimes little grinding is ok if you have story (fashion business). but you have games like john and awam which are just milking business with rare updates. i'm currently playing ors from eva kiss. it is like gggb: many choices, options, sex and serious story.
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I have to say one thing, Nick is really annoying. Of course it's not a lesbian path, but look at the amount of Male NPC there is? Fedor? Neil? see how many people liked your content, I didn't like it very much myself. About the others, Ok. But if you have Alice, Ann, Lisa, you will have Max too. Max was kind of important for Kate to learn and train with her massage technique with Lien, she could have done with Nick, but DS wanted it that way. When she works at the Villa, she works as a maid, so she has a deal with Max for her to work there with no panties and Max asks her if she wants to have fun with him, he will pay more for that. If I remember you can refuse. Just like back at the Villa, you have interactions with Alice and Ann, with their lesbian scenes. But it turns out that with Max, Lisa ends up butting in and the little dialogue between them is funny, with Lisa pretending to be curious and Kate suspecting Lisa. So when playing, I didn't think it was too bad, but I don't know, the fact that people get annoyed is that DS does monthly updates of each part of a game with very little content, so as it also updates Max and putting Max content in Kate's story her fans get bored and upset about it.

You are talking about the Club, but there are many other things that could also be implemented in the game. Kate was quoted as going to the beach with Sophie. There are also PE and swimming classes, there is also Candy's sister investigation at College and a few other things.

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I think Glamour is a very rich game, but disheartening and slow progression. How much of this game has been changed, modified and removed, would be with a further progression or maybe not. Why? I played this at the very beginning (0.6/0.7) and really the grind was absurd, from then on I didn't even go back to play, I only went back to versions 0.11 and then 0.29 which is where I stopped because of a bug and I went back to playing in this version now. But I say that Glamour is not 100%, the gameplay should improve and for that it is very likely that DS will have to hire more people.
 
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I have to say one thing, Nick is really annoying. Of course it's not a lesbian path, but look at the amount of Male NPC there is? Fedor? Neil? see how many people liked your content, I didn't like it very much myself. About the others, Ok. But if you have Alice, Ann, Lisa, you will have Max too. Max was kind of important for Kate to learn and train with her massage technique with Lien, she could have done with Nick, but DS wanted it that way. When she works at the Villa, she works as a maid, so she has a deal with Max for her to work there with no panties and Max asks her if she wants to have fun with him, he will pay more for that. If I remember you can refuse. Just like back at the Villa, you have interactions with Alice and Ann, with their lesbian scenes. But it turns out that with Max, Lisa ends up butting in and the little dialogue between them is funny, with Lisa pretending to be curious and Kate suspecting Lisa. So when playing, I didn't think it was too bad, but I don't know, the fact that people get annoyed is that DS does monthly updates of each part of a game with very little content, so as it also updates Max and putting Max content in Kate's story her fans get bored and upset about it.
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as i said before, and this is only time i will say positive about max's impact on kate path: it was logical decision from ds to pick max for massage lessons. lien insisted on another male person (not nick) to excersise, to learn about male body. there was no other available charachter at that stage of game for that.
nick is annoying, but in same time for most original kate player so it is max. people are annoyed because playable update is 5 min. maximum. kate players are annoyed that these 5 minutes are infested with max. and max players (as you are) are sorry that both paths are not just about max.
you can refuse max, but he is still in as a quest in kate's path
you are mentioning neil, fodor and how much people liked my content. first, i mentioned them only because they actually had sex with kate (not because they are likable or not). for same reasons i mentioned lisa and ann.
second, i was replying to you stating my opinion and wasn't chasing likes (otherwise i could write how max is great, enjoyable and i hardly wait for more updates where max is going to fuck all charachters in game and likes would be pouring). speaking of likes, not that it matters, you didn't get it more than few either. several like me.
and last, i can't find anything funny and interesting in max-ann dialogue. for me it is playing with cheap child incest porn themes to attract young players.
in general games is progressing in worse where ds is very little working on story development. adding childisb tasks with lots of grinding, like his primary goal is extending game indefinitively no matter of deteriorating game quality. like 5th, 6th sequel to once popular action movie. just in order to secure long time income.
but at least, and that is only thing where i respect ds, he regulary delivers updates to his players (not being scumbag milker like lp-awam, stopper-john and guys of milfy city, female agent, alison...)
 
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hello
so after format my pc i have start from the beginning
and is cheat for money using cheat engine still work ?
 
dwalsh

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Krugger said:
Give it a chance. Not all female protagonist games are bad.
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No don't get me wrong it's not a question of good or bad just preference. I actually started Onyx (and Escape from Lake thing) yesterday and it's pretty good although it's not a VN.
 
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Ok, so I am finally near the beginning of this update for Kate... way too much grind to get here... really lose interest after a while so I have to ask as I just had to pull the trigger on new computer components to update and rebuild:

Can I export the saves on this box and use them on my new box when I get it built or should I just quit now?

I have to say that Max's path is not as bad and moved intuitively to some extent but Kate's path is just tedious as all hell. I think that the timing for some of these things can be tweaked to make it much smoother. Overall I like the game but not enough to do this for a 4th time to be honest.
 
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Problem for Kate's path :
After the two first home punishments, no visit of Karen, impossible to ask new punishment to Julia, and fines increase very fast (+150 and up to 1000 even without breaking the rules)
PS : I've tried before and after Neil.
 
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The quest log in Kates quest now shows a side log calling for her to meet with Max and make a deal. Everything else shows completed even though the cheerleading uniform is still showing as access denied. I was wondering just what is next, do the Max and Kate become combined later or what?
 
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Дальше по игре будет это будет доступно. Нужно будет поговорить с Никаласом чтоб он дал тебе доступ и ты смог бы сам выбирать какое правило ведут.

Further on in the game it will be available. You will need to talk to Nikalas so that he gives you access so that you can choose which rule is being conducted.
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Thank you bro
 
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I play this game for the Kate character, but after completing the Kate content up to date, I decided to play the Max content. I believe I have completed all content. Could someone who knows verify this for me? Here is a screen shot of my quest log. Thanks
 
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I have some suggestions on the pacing for Kate's story. I am well aware that many players much prefer Max's story for preferential reasons. My issue is the difference in pacing.

1. When going through to get the punishments it is a crap shoot on if you can get a punishment. There should be an option at a certain point in her "progression" to purposely get caught as that is her goal especially during 2 teachers' progressions one for the vote on in class punishment and then again with Karen's progression.

2. After unlocking in home punishments and the gym opening things really slow down as there is no option to say go to the gym when Julia is not at home and request a punishment so that is like 3 days out of the week (not including weekends) that stall progression that have to do with the in home punishments.

3. Trying to unlock all the scenes at the villa is a bit annoying as when you sleep in some places there is no auto save in the new location. I know it didn't save for me at the villa but not sure if that happened at the apartment.

I think that the overall story is "OK" I just think engagement would be drastically improved by tweaking some pacing points making it less dependent on random events, especially when the plot and character progression would mean she would purposely get caught or in the case of the commando situation she would be a little more of an exhibitionist to provoke said issues.

Just my two cents.

I am about to rebuild a new PC (parts come in the next couple of days) and I don't think I can stomach doing this again (which is my 4th time) without some pacing fixes or the ability to export a save for use on another PC.
 
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Slagmoth said:
I have some suggestions on the pacing for Kate's story. I am well aware that many players much prefer Max's story for preferential reasons. My issue is the difference in pacing.

1. When going through to get the punishments it is a crap shoot on if you can get a punishment. There should be an option at a certain point in her "progression" to purposely get caught as that is her goal especially during 2 teachers' progressions one for the vote on in class punishment and then again with Karen's progression.

2. After unlocking in home punishments and the gym opening things really slow down as there is no option to say go to the gym when Julia is not at home and request a punishment so that is like 3 days out of the week (not including weekends) that stall progression that have to do with the in home punishments.

3. Trying to unlock all the scenes at the villa is a bit annoying as when you sleep in some places there is no auto save in the new location. I know it didn't save for me at the villa but not sure if that happened at the apartment.

I think that the overall story is "OK" I just think engagement would be drastically improved by tweaking some pacing points making it less dependent on random events, especially when the plot and character progression would mean she would purposely get caught or in the case of the commando situation she would be a little more of an exhibitionist to provoke said issues.

Just my two cents.

I am about to rebuild a new PC (parts come in the next couple of days) and I don't think I can stomach doing this again (which is my 4th time) without some pacing fixes or the ability to export a save for use on another PC.
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I never tried this myself but I think that you could copy this game on a flash drive and after you finish upgrading then put the copied game on your computer, this might work for continuing the game.
 
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